Malum Prohibitum
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Art, your history recap is the only post on this thread that lines up with what I know of the history of those two wars.
This is the quandry faced by Israel (and other nations). Terrorists do not have clearly marked camps or clearly identifiable uniforms. Terrorists are just part of the population who sneak out periodically to make war and then blend back into the population.2. Israel only attacks military targets, while the terrorists attack civilians.
Which Christian groups might that be? The Phalange (a Christian militia) was firmly allied with Israel during the war in Lebanon. They were the ones that committed the massacres in the 2 refugee camps. I haven't seen anything about other Christian groups fighting the Israelis. Considering the state of the country after Syria pretty much took over, the Christians weren't really too worried about Israel. They had more important problems in the Lebanese Muslim population.On top of that, blaming religious hatred doesn't explain why Christians and secularists are fighting Israel also.
really? I have five friends who live in Israel currently, two who used to live there, and a number more I know and have had discussions with. Guess what every one of them thinks to more or lesser degrees? I will give you a hint, it isn't your view and the ones all your so called Israeli friends think.I feel much better when I speak with my Israeli friends on the subject and find that they're usually more in accord with my view than those on this thread. Indeed, the United States and Likud party meetings are the only places on the planet where the discourse is so adamantly in favor of Likud policy.
To a large extent this is true. Blow up a coffee shop or bus? Get bombed back. Plan attacks? Bomb. Be a terrorist and show yourself in public? Just might get bombed. Ever heard the term the best defence is a good offence? Sometimes in order to defend yourself you need to strike first.1. Israel's attacks are only defensive, and designed to increase security.
That is generaly what happens with captured territory after the war is over, you build settelments. Should it sit and rot? Oh right, they should have just handed it back? To the people who just tried to kill them so they can stage in it yet agian? As for still doing it up to this day were you watching the news a few months back? Israeli troops going and forcing their own people out of their homes in an attempt to give a little in the hopes of peace?Instead, the day after the 67 war, Israel started building settlements, and continues to do so up to today...how does building hundreds of thousands of settlements for Jews only make Israel safer?
It is called collateral damage all wars have it. Suck? Sure does, but that doesn't make it less real. Don't blame those striking a target, blame the target who deliberatly plants himself in the middle of the collateral damage to create as much of it as possible.2. Israel only attacks military targets, while the terrorists attack civilians.
within the West Bank and Gaza Strip, according to the Palestinian Academic Society for the Study of International Affairs, the Palestinian population is 97% Muslim and 3% Christian
The Israelis and the Palestinians could all sit down together and trade Shaloms and Salaams and go to neck-hugging and loving one another. Shucks, go to harmony on Kumbayah. So? Somebody'd go to shooting rockets or setting off IEDs the next day, shouting, "Praise be to the Ayatollah and Allah!".
The christians in the muslim world know they are on the short end of the stick. They know if they don't condemn Israel, they will be persecuted and attacked.All the major middle eastern Churches condemn Israel, including the Copts in Egypt.
All this right/wrong argument is irrelevant
The christians in the muslim world know they are on the short end of the stick. They know if they don't condemn Israel, they will be persecuted and attacked.