sanerkeki
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Condition red, what are we in cold war?
Knock at my door 45 minutes ago
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medalguy
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My question is, if you live in the "country" who heard the alarm and called the police since you did not hear the alarm and you're inside the house, presumable close to the car? I too live in a pretty remote area, and if MY car alarm went off NO ONE would hear it-- my nearest neighbor is about 1/2 mile from me.
But maybe that's just me.
But maybe that's just me.
That actually sounds like something these guys would have said...LOL, okay then.
2 - ditch the spock language and speak like a normal joe
Maybe they thought he was French?
You might think that, but it's amazing what those things will stand up to. I watched a Mythbusters episode where they were trying to kick/shoulder their way through a door, Jamie managed to get through the regular lock and deadbolt rather quickly, the chain held out substantially longer than the other locks, surprising everybody.SweetKnuckles said:
Sure, it's possible to get through those, but it's not like in the movies, where you hit it with your shoulder and it simply pops off, it's going to take a few hits, giving you time to back up and have your gun ready, hell, you'd probably have time to arm up if you, for some reason, went to the door unarmed.
ZeBool
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The township building is located directly across the road from my house. He said that he had been getting gas when he heard the alarm go off. And thank you for referencing Jeff Cooper.
Shadow Man
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Not badly handled, sir. I assume that was your first time? 'Twas a learning experience then, and next time you will handle it even better. But yes, the shakes will still happen. Happens to anyone after an adrenaline surge, although a certain "tolerance" can build up, and it requires a longer, or more intense surge to get the same shake. Hence the term "adrenaline junkie". Just as it takes drug junkies more substance to get the same high, it can eventually (if you're exposed to significant amounts) take more adrenaline to produce the same after-effects. While this is usually a combat-related thing, just thought I'd mention it, for the good of the group, as it were.
mcdonl
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I live in the country too... and we would LOVE to have the problem where TWO officers respond to every call, as it is crime is on the rise because we do not even have enough officers in the county to have one on patrol in every sector every shift.
How did you not hear the car alarm?
How did you not hear the car alarm?
gatorjames85
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Nothing wrong with politely letting LE know that you are aware of the law.
re: door chain locks
Their usefulness depends entirely on what screws are used to secure it. Throw away the screws they come with, most of the screws I have seen with them will barely go through the trim and drywall behind it. Get yourself some 2 1/2" deck screws, they will go all the way into the studs. I would also check the screws securing the hinges to the door frame, a lot of them are pretty short as well.
I would choose a peephole over a door chain but if you want the chain make sure you do it right.
Something I forgot to mention earlier, good for your girlfriend for arming herself! She must be a smart lady.
Their usefulness depends entirely on what screws are used to secure it. Throw away the screws they come with, most of the screws I have seen with them will barely go through the trim and drywall behind it. Get yourself some 2 1/2" deck screws, they will go all the way into the studs. I would also check the screws securing the hinges to the door frame, a lot of them are pretty short as well.
I would choose a peephole over a door chain but if you want the chain make sure you do it right.
Something I forgot to mention earlier, good for your girlfriend for arming herself! She must be a smart lady.
You can get them both for less than 20 dollars at any hardware store, no reason for it to be an either/or.lions said:
Why, because you've seen people in the movies go crashing through them? If installed properly, they hold up better than the door itself, which, even on a standard outside door, takes a bit to get through.Walkalong said:
Shadow Man
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Walkalong, have't you heard? The allmighty Mythbusters have proved you wrong.
They also "proved" that Carlos Hathcock did not in fact shoot an enemy sniper through the scope, and into his eye...so much for Gny. Hathcock and Cpl. Burke confirming that kill...
They also "proved" that Carlos Hathcock did not in fact shoot an enemy sniper through the scope, and into his eye...so much for Gny. Hathcock and Cpl. Burke confirming that kill...
jpatterson
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I think you did well. That awkward gray area of being 18-20 and owning a handgun feels weird, I did the same thing since my 18th birthday. It's legal, but it just feels funny -- I can understand your recitation of the law, haha.
Shadow Man
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Plausible? The good Gunny must be flipping in his grave, Tommy (or was it Johnny?) Burke, too.
And yes, I do have something more to offer: making better use of my time than watching a TV show that teaches me things I can either learn on my own, or have no need to know in the first place. Then again, I don't watch much TV anymore, for just that reason. However, if it works for you, then I won't interfere.
And yes, I do have something more to offer: making better use of my time than watching a TV show that teaches me things I can either learn on my own, or have no need to know in the first place. Then again, I don't watch much TV anymore, for just that reason. However, if it works for you, then I won't interfere.
DinosaurJones
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Due to the fact that I'm a jackass, I've kicked open & seen kicked open many a chain lock in my day. I've never seen one that didn't fly open on one kick.
There was a story in my area a while back about a man who got a knock on the door and as he approached the door and called out "who's there" they shot & killed him through the door. So... Maybe not the best approach either. I'd say every home is different, but opening the door blindly is a bad idea.
Shadow Man
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It's amazing what you can do when you don't know what the experts know
Jonah71
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Living in a small town definately has it's advantages. Most people here will assume that the other person is likely armed....no matter which side of the door they're standing on. Plus I usually get a phone call before I get the knock at the door, even from the police. And what would be considered being nosey in most towns is appreciated here. We keep an eye out for each other's wellfare and property. While strangers are welcome, they are closely watched. I just turned 57, but it seems to me like it's always been that way here. One of those "Bible in one hand, gun in the other" type towns. We don't have much of a crime problem. And probably not as many CCW permits as we should have. But that's not something many people worry about either. It's not Mayberry RFD, but it's peaceful enough.
Shadow Man
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Being completely serious here, that actually sounds kinda interesting. But I think the local hardware store would object if I went through and replaced all the locking screws, then proceeded to try to kick the doors in...their fault for lack of interest in further education, if you ask me...
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i install those chains i use 3 1/2 inch number 8 deck screws and have to bore the hole a bit till they fit. might take 2 kicks if your spindly i've gone back to fix a few theres a limit to how long a screw will go in door without coming out other side most folks draw the line at through bolts with big washers. i got a camera on clearance for 10 bucks.
bigfatdave
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So you're making a trip to the hardware store, and standing in front of your door with a power drill you dug out, found bits for, etc. ...
... And only one of those devices is getting installed?
Wouldn't 7.62x25 or 5.7x28 be more appropriate?
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On the subject of door chains:
-1- install them into heavy-duty doors and secure wall anchors only
-2- attach them with good deep screws
-3- a taut chain breaks more easily than a slack one, so don't hold the door open enough to tension the chain if there's a reason to be behind that chain
-4- people attempting to kick in your door shouldn't get a second try at it, and they sure as hell don't get a third one!
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