Lawn Salesman came banging on my door.

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If you shoot someone for this, you better be prepared to spend the next 25 with a cellmate named Bubba.
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The first line was poor phrasing. Read the second part. If they attempt to come inside then I will shoot. Under state law they would be assumed to be intent on causing seriously bodily injury, death, or a crime that could result in such.

All they get is a warning to stop and identify. If they keep coming through the door they will be shot. If they walk past my car, motion detecting lights, an audible alarm on the porch, and still try to come in after a verbal warning, I think the assumption they didn't come to play gin is a safe one.
 
Weather they are, burglers, Home improvement scammers, annoying alarm guys, or religeous types, I got enough layers that for them to get to get from the road to the front door they are either stupid or determined. At that point the dogs take the lead. The dogs dont get to do it too often.
 
CopBob said:
Technically my friend, under Texas law,when he stuck his foot in the door, it became burglary.. He just didn't leave with anything of tangible value... except his life.
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Agree with this, plus sticking his foot in the door could mean he was attempting with force to enter an occupied dwelling, which in Texas can be met with deadly force. Anyone sticking a foot in my door to prevent me from closing it is going to have a firearm pointed at their chest at the least.
 
The operator told me they would send a patrol car to the neiborhood check things out. B.S.O never really seems to care, I have some interesting stories regarding this, but I will post it on another topic because it does not fit the title "Lawn Salesman came banging on my door"
 
I have a simple technique to chase this type of scammers away. It's seldom I don't have my cell phone on me, when I answer the door and it's someone I don't know I take their picture. If they're legit they don't mind, if they're not legit they take off in a hurry. This has also worked on cars parked in front of my house.

I also have my .45 and half PitBull, half Lab!:evil:
 
.338-06 said:
I have a simple technique to chase this type of scammers away. It's seldom I don't have my cell phone on me, when I answer the door and it's someone I don't know I take their picture. If they're legit they don't mind, if they're not legit they take off in a hurry. This has also worked on cars parked in front of my house.

I also have my .45 and half PitBull, half Lab!:evil:
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That's a great Idea
 
Better yet get a BEWARE OF DOG sign that can be seen from the street and no thief will bother with your house. He will just move on to an easier target. BTW this works even if you don't have a dog. They never bother to find out.
 
He tells you he is a gardener and has just gotten out of prison? There's a heck of a sales pitch. :what: And he expects you to say "Well come on in and let me open my safe and get you some money" ?

His knocking on your door and testing the doorknob is a definite 'tell' that he had bad intentions.
 
The operator told me they would send a patrol car to the neiborhood check things out. B.S.O never really seems to care,
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I know all about B.S.O. I had a roomate that I had evicted, call me and tell me he was on his way to stab me, so I went (armed) to my neighbors apartment, and called them. Hours went by, neither Broward Sheriff's Office nor the roommate ever showed up.
 
If you knock and then turn my door knob, you better be prepared to get shot.
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If you shoot someone for this, you better be prepared to spend the next 25 with a cellmate named Bubba.
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Not necessarily....
In NC it is legal to shoot someone to prevent them from entering your home IF you believe that they are entering in order to rape, murder, or commit a felony (such as armed robbery).


I was thinking about what to if this happens again.
There are two schools of thought here:
A)Don't answer the door , wait for my dog to do the talking
B)Answer the door
C)Get wireless intercom system (may still have to open the door if someone claims it's a emergency)
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A man should not be afraid to answer his own door.
Just use some precaution and common sense...

A locked "storm door" is a great option as it affords a barrier between you and the person on your front porch, yet it allows you to see them and the front yard and communicate easier than through a thicker solid door.

But if you can't add a storm door then at least use the peep-hole and have them ID themselves before opening the door.
If it's a salesman you can say "no thanks, please leave now" throught the door without ever opeing it.

ALWAYS have a handgun when answering the door.
I carry even when I'm at home so that no matter when I am (bathroom, bedroom, kitchen, basement, garage, etc....) I always have a handgun with me.
Yeah, I'm a little paranoid, but I grew up in a rough place.
 
Better yet get a BEWARE OF DOG sign that can be seen from the street and no thief will bother with your house. He will just move on to an easier target. BTW this works even if you don't have a dog. They never bother to find out.
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Not true.
In my younger days I did some things that I'm not proud of, including breaking in to homes, and signs like these did not deter us one bit.
Even as kids we knew that some folks just put up such signs to ward off thieves.

However, actually hearing a vicious sounding dog when we knocked on the door did deter us.



I do remember one sign that turned us away....

On a hand-written note taped to the front door was this: "Please don't let the snakes out!"
 
Dogs do work.

I've got 330lbs of dog spread across three of them. The smallest one is 100lb long coated shepherd...and they go up from there. They are very friendly dogs and not a hazard....so long as you don't come in the backyard (privacy fence with a padlocked door) or the front door without me. Once inside (with me) they are awesome. On your own? You're on your own.

I don't have them for protection...not at all! It's just another perk. FWIW...

And no, I don't open the door...not unless I know you. It's safer for all of us that way.
 
Regarding watchdogs... there are those few sadistic lunatics that carry oven cleaner to spray in dogs' eyes. It's terrible thing because the spray actually dissolves eye tissue. Some just kill them with baseball bats. Even if the dog does some damage they still end up dead or horribly mamed.
 
Bottom line Comet605, is to get your head in the right frame of mind! I apologize for being so blunt and rude but, thanks to your dog, you can now analyze this from top to bottom. Time now to do some soul searching and a lot of study and decision making. All the electronics and weaponry isn't worth a plug nickel if it isn't operated by a savvy mind. I was surprised you didn't suspect the double hard knocks at the back door. Times just aren't what they used to be. I think the key here is to be suspicious of suspicious behavior and be ready to protect yourself when there isn't any other alternative. Congratulations on the successful outcome of this encounter. Use the time you have to think and study about it wisely. Sorry if I offend you, I was just a little concerned about your preoccupation with the computer in a potentially threatening situation. Good dog you have there! Pet him for me if you will!
 
Dogs work not only because they might bite but because they bark and make a lot of noise. No thief wants to draw attention to himself. Thieves are lazy by nature and want something for little effort. Simply make your place seem like a little more like work than the neighbors and they will move on to an easier target without dogs.
 
Deltaboy said:
My wife thinks I am crazy to answer the door armed. But I do and 45 stuck in your waistband ends 99% of my unwelcomed visits with in 30 seconds.
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Do you mean your pistol is showing? I thought about that and I don't want my neighbors to know I have toys in my house, It might make them feel uncomfortable.
 
I don't care if my neighbors are uncomfortable. Their comfort does not replace my life if something happens.

My neighbor's know I have guns. I have used them in defense of my neighbor's home and life. I have put down feral animals in the neighborhood. Plus I carry openly when on my property. People sometimes think I'm weird to always have a gun near at hand. They seem to apreciate it though.
 
Here in NC I think that it's reasonable to assume that every home has a firearm of some type.
I personally don't know any family that has no guns in their home.
 
It really depends on where you live. If it is Carrboro, Cary, Chapel Hill, (parts of) Raleigh, or parts of Durham it wouldn't suprise me to find a home with no guns. There are a lot of northern transplants, California transplants, and neo hippies in those areas. There are a few other areas like that around North Carolina.
 
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