M-1 Carbines or M-1 Garands, anyone? South Korea auctions guns to fund miltary

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Wilco sir!

Is there any current news on availability of these Garands?
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I haven't seen or heard anything to suggest they have, but I have not been specifically looking either. I haven't seen anything on the CMP forums either.
 
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I sent an email asking for follow up information to the reporter at "The Korea Times" who originally covered the story. Should I receive anything, I will post it to this thread.
 
ok... so I am not impressed by this at all.

Why would I want some korean gun, when I could get one with an american history?

Its not like garands are UNavailable with a US past.

Call me crazy but... "This gun might have been used by a man named Kwan Suk Do in Ping Pong Province" doesnt thrill me.

Can someone clue me in why these guns are "cool"?
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Are you saying they're Korean made or that you care about the history behind them i.e. who it was issued to and you find that unappealing?

I don't care about who had it before I did. You mean to say a Ruger Mini isn't cool because Joe at the gas station who watches pro wrestling all day had it before I did? (exception maybe being the one Hannibal had).)

Garand is cool gun. And everyone knows it was the US gun in 3 wars. What difference does it make who had it before? I care about who will have it now and that would be me and not for $1000 by the looks of things.
 
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These guns were not made in Korea, but loaned/sold to them as surplus U.S. arms. Prior to their arrival in Korea, they may have served at D-Day, the Pacific front, Korean War (by our guys) or anywhere else we were fighting. Almost all (really all, think) carbines were made during WWII. Even though many of them were given to other countries after the war, they are very much part of our history.

Those sold by CMP are weapons being returned by the many countries we loaned them to (Austria, Korea, Bavaria, etc.). Those possibly being sold by Korea were probably bought from us, not loaned. They will certainly be labeled by US war contractors like Winchester, IBM, Rockola, etc.
 
these were not purchased by the koreans... they are lend lease guns that they refused to return. The CMP tried to work out a program paying "shipping fees" of 50 dollars a gun, but the higherups thought it rediculous to purchase something they already owned. There is no legal way (currently) to bring these into the country.
 
That should put the prices back to fair value. $300 for Garand is a realistic price.
 
First, I believe they would fall under the Clinton importation ban... if I am not mistaken... EVEN if that isnt the case.. they are the US Government's property, the only entity that could legally bring them in the country and sell them is the CMP.
 
I think this all just mythology. I can't confirm any of this with searching the internet, and yes I believe everything I read on the internet.

S. Korea is not auctioning these guns off. I can't find it anywhere. Also, the Clinton import ban is the ban of Norinco as far I can tell -- theres nothing else on the web about the specs of it otherwise. There has to be a statute of limitations on the US gov's claim to ownership of these firearms.
 
The CMP rejected these rifles because they were very poor quality. They are said to be below rack grade. I just bought a beautiful Service grade Garand from the CMP for $595 so why would anyone take a chance on these beaters which will likely sell at a higher price.
 
It says on CMP's web forums that they have nothing to do with it. They only sell stuff surplus from the US armed forces. This looks like the Korean government selling it to an importer with the US government letting it go. I can't find out if they went through with it or not. Although from everything I've read the condition of the guns might be really bad anyway.

PS - $600 ain't cheap for a decades old gun. Ain't cheap generally speaking.
 
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PS - $600 ain't cheap for a decades old gun. Ain't cheap generally speaking.
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The price of a Garand in 1942 was about $83, equivalent to nearly $1200 today. Once you factor in the tremendous drop off in manufacturing quality over the last 60 years it is easily worth such a paltry sum.
 
I have a Blue Sky import that is in good shape. It is a 560### serial number, which dates the receiver to 1942, IIRC. Clean, and a decent finish. The wood has a few dents and dings, but I kind of like that. It has been shot a lot, I can tell you that much :D. It will get a new barrel in the next one or two thousand rounds, but it is a good, solid rifle.

I wanted to add that it was a lot of fun acquiring this rifle. It started out with me buying a knife for a friend in trade for a shotgun. Traded that shotgun for another. Traded that shotgun for a bolt action .22. Traded that rifle and 200 bucks for a Ruger .44. Traded the .44 for the M1 with ammo and bayonet. All in all I have less than 300 bucks in it.
 
A $1000 for a Garand? Obviously, these are going to importers and NOT the CMP. The Garands sold through importers will probably have importer marks. The CMP is also getting a bunch of Garands from Greece and these have always been very nice. CMP Garands don't have importer marks. A CMP Garand will cost you $595 and is a DEAL.

My Service Grade Garand from the CMP has a throat errosion of 1.0 and the same on the muzzle. It cost me $595 in July 2009. It is a 1943 Springfield.
 
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Here are the prices and avalability at the CMP right now.

Field Grade M1 Garand
ITEM # DESCRIPTION PRICE
RM1WRAF M1 Garand, WRA Field Grade
Please allow 60-90 days for delivery
*See below for grade description $695
RM1SAF M1 Garand, SA Field Grade
Please allow 60 days for delivery
*See below for grade description $495
RM1HRAF M1 Garand, HRA Field Grade
Please allow 120 days for delivery
*See below for grade description $495


Service Grade M1 Garand
ITEM # DESCRIPTION PRICE
RM1WRAS M1 Garand, WRA Service Grade
Please allow 90-120 days for delivery
*See below for grade description
SOLD OUT- Not accepting orders
RM1SAS M1 Garand, SA Service Grade
Please allow 60-90 days for delivery
*See below for grade description
$595

The net and the CMP forum is all abuzz due to the promised release of a bunch of Greek bring backs in Service and above grade.

Deal with the CMP. You WON'T be sorry. They work very hard to make sure you enjoy your purchase and they do it for less money than anyone else.
 
It says on CMP's web forums that they have nothing to do with it. They only sell stuff surplus from the US armed forces.
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Not entirely true. The CMP could sell the Garands and Carbines if they were brought back to the U.S. properly. Remember most of the rifles for sale over there now came from overseas. The Greek M1's, (and ammo made there), Bavarian M1 Carbines, etc.

The condition should not affect the CMP, they sell some pretty rough stuff like the drill rifles, barreled receivers, salvage grade guns, etc. It does not seem to have bothered them on the past to sell stuff that does not work, or needs a lot of work to get back into shape. They just make sure you know the condition before you buy the gun.
 
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