Shadizar:
Your post is problematic for several reasons.
1.
I am a legal immigrant to this country. I have my "green card" and served four years in the United States Marine Corps. Anyone that says I don't have a say, can kiss my ass! I earned my say, unlike those that were BORN here.
My ancestors fought on the losing side (British) of the American Revolutionary War, both sides of the American Civil War, with both the British and Americans in WWI, again with the British and Americans in WWII, and more recently with the Americans in Vietnam, both Gulf Wars, and two family members are currently deployed in the 'Stan--one for his second tour. Some were born here, some abroad, one on the boat on the way over. All those currently living are Americans by Mandate of Heaven (having been born in the US of A, it were an act of God, not man). We are not kissing anything. Not all members of my family are warriors--especially the women and children. You bet I find your remark offensive.
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I can completely sympathize with those poeple who have entered this country illegaly (yup I said it!). They are people who came here looking for a better life for themselves and their children.
"Sympathize?" As in sympathize with those who knowingly and willfully break this sovereign nation's laws? Phrases to add to your lexicon: aiding and abetting; sedition; treason. Master those and then move on to "Hanoi Jane." "Completely sympathize." Spare me. :banghead:
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IF, I had been in a situation where I could not feed myself of my family, I would have done the same. If put into that situation I don't think anyone else would do differently. In this country we have a luxuriuos life that many envy (for good reason).
Brilliant reasoning. The very pathology you advocate is the very same pathology you condemn as the driving force behind the "illegals'" (your terminollogy, not mine) mass exodus from their homeland and influx into my country. By your rationale, it is preferrable to cut and run rather than stand and fight for the betterment of one's own country. If this is representative of the level of loyalty, honor, and commitment I can expect from you and the people you are defending, then we are destined to clash. Succinctly stated: a man who would rather flee than stand and fight for his native land is not a man I can trust to fight for mine. Good to know you place your own selfish best interests and self preservation above all else. (someone please stick a needle in my eye)
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This country has laws. I am very well aware of that. The laws as they are written do now work. As a country we allow people with skills to work within our borders at the expense of the middle class. These are engineers and computer specialists, not untrained and unskilled workers. Why is there no outcry about those jobs being lost? GM, Ford, Microsoft, etc, are all "outsourcing" and "downsizing" at the expense of the middle class. Why no clamor about that?
You are unfortunately and grossly misinformed. The hue and cry is deafening. As for decrying the major corporations, this is AMERICA; no one ever has or ever will OWE anyone a job. Free markets are just that: anyone is free to "make it or tank it." Research Andrew Carnegie, the Rockefellers, the Kelloggs, Henry Ford, Bill Gates, et al. Our government is a republic; ours is a capitalist economic system. The design incorporates an inherent incentive to work hard and prosper as a result therefrom. As for those who incessantly prate, snipe, and grouse over "outsourcing" and "downsizing" at the expense of the middle class," man, if you want to convince me then stop talking and do something tangible. Oh, before i forget, just one question: am I to understand, my Brother, that you came away from boot camp and four years in the Corps with this set of values and worldview?
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While we focus on people that are barely earning enough to survive, we are ignoring the fact that skilled jobs are moving overseas.
GREAT! in that you seem to be speaking on behalf of everyone but me--I am most certainly NOT ignoring "the fact that skilled jobs are moving overseas"--i trust that YOU are going to start a company, offer all the paid bennies, far above the minimum wage, and jobs to all who want them. I applaud your benevolence. Please provide an address and map to El dorado so that I might personally drive the bus and deliver the first load of your new workers to you. Venture capitalists and entrepreneurs: gosh how I love you guys! BTW: you again refute your argument when you talk about skilled jobs leaving--isn't this the justification you use to defend your beloved downtrodden who FLEE TO THE COUNTRY WHERE THE GOOD JOBS ARE? Sorry, but you can't have it both ways--not even in America.
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The 11 million illegal immigrants who are the targets of so much hatred are the very lowest rung on the economic ladder. These people are willing to work for pennies in jobs that for the most part do not take away from the middle class (if anything they keep the middle class afloat). I surely wouldn't do their jobs. They are no threat to me (or anyone I know).
HUH? (Chris Farley voice) Uh . . . um . . . do you remember that one time when you so said, "As a country we allow people with skills to work within our borders at the expense of the middle class. These are engineers and computer specialists, not untrained and unskilled workers? . . ." That was cool. And then you said, "They are no threat to me (or anyone I know)." Ya. Well that wasn't so cool because it didn't make a lot of sense. And while we are on the subject just who are these "anyones” of whom you speak? Must be some intriguing folks, they.
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Health Care. Yes, illegal immigrants raise the price of health care (among other things), but in all honesty is anyone looking at the profits of these companies? Oil companies make a 9% profit margin in their industry while medical companies are making astronomical profits (on the order of 20%+). The country is in an uproar about gas prices, but there is no such interest in health care?!
Socialism. It's what's for dinner. Again, FOUND AND RUN YOUR OWN HEALTHCARE COMPANY! Make TONS of money, insure all your friends and anyone you want to for F-R-E-E nothing. Heck, you can even flat out REFUSE to insure me and my "not-worthy-by-virtue-of-having-been-born-in-America" relatives and never give any reason for so doing. It’s your right. Ain't America great! As for gas prices, YOU BE THE ONE TO COME UP WITH AN ALTERNATIVE TO FOSSIL FUELS! What an opportunity that is, eh? The oil companies no more have an obligation to come up with the "next" energy source than foundries have an obligation to come up with a replacement for structural steel. health care, gasoline, cars: it's what they do. Good grief. Will you please listen to your reasoning?
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This country was built on immigration. Unless you are a Native American (which I am not-unless you count Central America-which no one does) then we are ALL immigrants. Times are tough, but to shut our doors to immigrants now, would be hippocracy.
Bull$*&^! This country was not "built on" immigration. THIS COUNTRY WAS BUILT ON IDEALS. (sorry for having shouted) Again, for the benefit of those with sensitive ears, America was founded and built upon an ideal. READ the Constitution and the Bill of Rights for chrissakes. I won't even dignify your ridiculous diatribe on Native Americanism: read your history books. There was no unified, homogenous "Native American Nation," ever. The woodland tribes most certainly did not get along with the Lakes and Plains tribes; the southwestern tribes did not get along with the prairie tribes; etc., etc., etc. Have someone educate you about the Anishinabe (Chippewa/Ojibway), Huron, and their friends [sic] the Iroquois. Now those guys knew how to party! As for "shutting our doors," the doors are open; the illegals (your term, not mine) are not using them. It's really disrespectful to enter your host's home by a means other than the door through which he's/she opens for you. There's never an excuse for bad manners. Period. "Hippocracy[sic]?" It's a disease found in large mudhole-dwelling mammals in Africa, right? (good grief)
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Ellis Island did not reject your grandfathers (Native Americans not withstanding). The problems where different then, but they are not so different that we should isolate ourselves from immigrants now. They are, and always have been the lifeblood of this nation.
Uh . . . actually they did--in one case not once but TWICE. Where
do you get your information?
As for our "problems being different but not so different," you are quite right: the number of cases of TB, typhoid, measles, mumps, leprosy (can you believe that one; yes, LEPROSY!) are off the charts. This is in direct correlation to the number of--you guessed it--UNDOCUMENTED ILLEGAL ALIENS LIVING IN THIS COUNTRY. My kids are all up to date with their vaccinations--just like me (Ye-aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh!). Unfortunately, there is no way to tell who these people are, where they are from, what underlying medical conditions they have, whether they have ever been to a doctor let alone immunized. . . . FWIW: My great grandfather GSM with the Buffs, was first quarantined and later rejected at Ellis Island because he had not fully recovered from his bout with malaria, which he had contracted while serving in Her Majesty's service in Egypt. As for the "lifeblood of this nation," well . . . them's fightin' words, son--especially coming from you. I say you are no longer welcome to play in the sandbox until you learn to control that tongue.
Now, any English 110 student can tell you that a good essay always comes back to where it began--a nice tidy circle. To that end, you qualified your inaccurate litany by stating the following:
I am a legal immigrant to this country. I have my "green card" and served four years in the United States Marine Corps.
Well, son, this is your lucky day. I, too, am a former Marine.
Perhaps it would be productive for you to go back and digest the things you have put into print for all the world to read--yes, there is indeed a reason it is called the World-Wide Web. And then, my wayward "Brother," put on your Dress Blues, run your hand down that crimson stripe representing the blood of each and every Marine who has gone before you--including my great grandfather who fought with the 3/6 at Belleau Wood and Soissons, my brother who was with the 1/9 3rd at Khe Sahn in '67, and my brother in law who is on his second deployment to Afghanistan--each and every Marine who counts on you to uphold and defend at all costs the values of the Corps and this Nation. And then, look in the mirror and recite the sacred oath you once took:
I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely; and without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter; So help me God.
Now, if you feel our laws, as set forth and based upon the Constitution of the United States of America, are unjust, then run for office, win, go to DC and legislate change. Otherwise, be a productive citizen and obey and uphold the laws that make America America.
This is the way it works. There are no other options—other than leaving. Choose ONE.
Semper Fi.
MiG
(Good night, Chesty!)
Therr should be no place in this country for but ONE flag, and ONE allegience. 
