Miroku 1892 Update

[Steve S.]

I purchased a Winchester 1892 .45 Colt Trapper Takedown (Miroku manufacture) back in January of this year. Upon arrival, I noted that it had several cosmetic problems; I contacted Winchester and the rifle was shipped to Morgan, UT for repair.
The rifle was returned about three months later noting several repairs however, I then noted that the CC treatment on the receiver would easily wipe off with an oily rag and the magazine tube was damaged from (seemingly) reinstallation. I again contacted Winchester and the rifle was then shipped to Arnold, MO for evaluation/ repair.
I just noted in there reporting system today that the rifle is to be replaced with a new unit (I am not sure when the new rifle will be delivered) and the old rifle was declared an “RMA cremation” (which I guess means that the rifle will be destroyed).
The sad part of this ownership period is that I never had the opportunity to shoot the rifle - it seemed like a handy to carry little thing - potentially a nice rifle to own but for the problems. Anyway, it took a long time to get to this point but with the rifle being replaced with a new one, I guess that it is turning out OK. I am looking forward to shooting the thing - I think that my chances of receiving two bad rifles in a row are pretty slim - we shall see.

 

[Oregontrail]

That’s quite a wait, You have been more than patient. My experience with the Japan Winchesters and Brownings have been nothing but great.
No flaws or reliability issues at all. The quality is vary high and I believe that the new Winchesters are often overlooked given the quality vs. price comparison to others makes.
I am sure that you will be vary happy with that rifle when you finally receive it and worth the wait.
The 92’s are vary smooth

 

[Tommygunn]

I second Oregontrail's post. I have a 1980s vintage Miroku made Browning 1892 carbine in .44 magnum which is terrifically accurate and very pointable, and a more recently made Winchester 1892 deluxe takedown rifle in .32-20 which is also very nice. Mine is blued so no color-case hardening to worry about. I do have a Miroku 1873 which is color case hardened and it is a beautiful color casehardening.


I'm sure you'll like your new 1892 when it arrives. Keep us posted - - - - with pictures!!!

 

[Old Dog]

I am also sorry to hear of this. My experience with the Miroku Winchesters is very, very positive -- excellent wood, beautiful bluing and overall superb fit and finish -- with great reliability and more than acceptable accuracy.

I'm hoping your experience becomes as positive as mine have been.

 

[JCooperfan1911]

Waited 9 months for Browning to fix a new Miroku SA22.

Recently called and they’re sending a replacement. It’s been 3 weeks already and nothing yet.

 

[Steve S.]

I did not mind the wait with this conclusion; this rifle had lots of cosmetic problems which I consider an exception to Miroku quality - I was hopeful to get a replacement and not another repair - I was convinced that I just received a bad unit - it happens and Winchester did what I would call the right thing. I also own an 1873 (.45 Colt) Sporting Rifle and a Citori 12 ga. XS Sporting Clays that are absolutely flawless - beautifully made factory firearms - I have a very positive opinion of Miroku quality.
Again, I will receive a new rifle and I am pleased with the outcome.

 

[Riomouse911]

My .45 Colt 1892 is a Rossi 16” version, it’s by far my favorite lever gun to thwack steel plates and my zoo of small sized silhouettes.


Bummer that your original rifle had so many issues. I’m sure once your new 1892 returns it’ll quickly become a favorite gun of yours.

Stay safe.

 

[Hokkmike]

I purchased a Winchester 1892 .45 Colt Trapper Takedown (Miroku manufacture) back in January of this year. Upon arrival, I noted that it had several cosmetic problems; I contacted Winchester and the rifle was shipped to Morgan, UT for repair.
The rifle was returned about three months later noting several repairs however, I then noted that the CC treatment on the receiver would easily wipe off with an oily rag and the magazine tube was damaged from (seemingly) reinstallation. I again contacted Winchester and the rifle was then shipped to Arnold, MO for evaluation/ repair.
I just noted in there reporting system today that the rifle is to be replaced with a new unit (I am not sure when the new rifle will be delivered) and the old rifle was declared an “RMA cremation” (which I guess means that the rifle will be destroyed).
The sad part of this ownership period is that I never had the opportunity to shoot the rifle - it seemed like a handy to carry little thing - potentially a nice rifle to own but for the problems. Anyway, it took a long time to get to this point but with the rifle being replaced with a new one, I guess that it is turning out OK. I am looking forward to shooting the thing - I think that my chances of receiving two bad rifles in a row are pretty slim - we shall see.

Just curious - what will be the primary use for your .45 Colt rifle?

 

[bannockburn]

Riomouse911

My .45 Colt 1892 is a Rossi 16” version, it’s by far my favorite lever gun to thwack steel plates and my zoo of small sized silhouettes.

Bought my Rossi M92 used but like new in the box. Has a 16" barrel, the large loop lever, and is chambered for .45 Colt. The action was already smooth as glass and needed no additional work done t it. Wood to metal fit is excellent as is the blued finish. Definitely a lightweight, fun little carbine that is very quick and easy to get on target with!

 

[Steve S.]

Hokkmike, I purchase my firearms for ownership; I do not know that I have a specific use or purpose for any of them. I am a casual range shooter, a casual hunter and firearms are my hobby. With this specific rifle, it will get shot mostly with range time, it may go on an occasional deer hunt if I think that a shot will be under 50 yards - it will probably end up going to Mr. Turnbull later in it’s life for some fancy upgrades - we shall see.

 

[2zulu1]

Another very happy Miroku '92 owner here, 44mag saddle ring carbine. Mine went from the dealer straight to hunting wild pigs in dense mesquite, during a light rain, on the property, light weight and very fast to the shoulder. Fit and blue finish are superb; it's my bedroom rifle.

Please keep us up to date.

 

[Steve S.]

I spoke with Winchester (Arnold, MO) today; my replacement 1892 “is on order and could arrive from Japan next week or in six months - we have no way of knowing.” When I asked about a refund, I was told that a refund is a retail process between me and the seller; Winchester the manufacturer only warrantee’s the rifle. I explained that the rifle that I purchased 8 months ago from the retailer is in your possession and being replaced with a new one because it is a bad unit; that I am sure that the retailer will no longer take the rifle back in return for a refund after 8 months of residency at Winchester especially when I explain why I am returning it, I was told that Winchester does not give refunds, they will only replace the rifle.
…..then I guess that I am stuck in a catch 22 policy waiting for a replacement rifle that may show in a week or in six months. If I split the waiting difference and say that it will be three months, I will have owned this rifle for almost a year with 99% of the possession time being back at Winchester. Something seems very strange about that to me. I will also guess that “buyer beware” is in order from retailers that only provide a factory warranty with no returns as a selling rule - makes non hands-on internet shopping require a little more caution.