Mom and Dad were robbed last night
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Vitamin G
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Burglarized is when someone steals from you when you aren't home.
Robbed is when you show local hoodlums $500 and ask for information.
Be safe!!!
Robbed is when you show local hoodlums $500 and ask for information.
Be safe!!!
WEll I wouldn't approach them with $500 in cash with me since they now have Dads gun , they could use it to rob you !
Since your father kept the gun in the box "which few people do" I would take another approach . I would find some stock photos off of the internet and make up some flyers and post them on trees and light poles in the neighborhood with a photo and describe the gun as a Rare collectors Item worth several thousand dollars , and that you are willing to pay X amount reward for it's return .
Being a bunch of kids chances are they will think they hit the Jackpot and try to find a Pawn shop or gun dealer to sell it to rather than just some clown on the street that would give them perhaps $100 for it .
I would go to local shops with the guns serial and model number and tell them it is a stolen and if it comes in they need to call the police so it can be returned to them and eventually your father . Since they now have been informed it is a stolen weapon if they come into possesion of it and buy/sell it they would now be guilty of knowingly buying and selling stolen property .
Since your father kept the gun in the box "which few people do" I would take another approach . I would find some stock photos off of the internet and make up some flyers and post them on trees and light poles in the neighborhood with a photo and describe the gun as a Rare collectors Item worth several thousand dollars , and that you are willing to pay X amount reward for it's return .
Being a bunch of kids chances are they will think they hit the Jackpot and try to find a Pawn shop or gun dealer to sell it to rather than just some clown on the street that would give them perhaps $100 for it .
I would go to local shops with the guns serial and model number and tell them it is a stolen and if it comes in they need to call the police so it can be returned to them and eventually your father . Since they now have been informed it is a stolen weapon if they come into possesion of it and buy/sell it they would now be guilty of knowingly buying and selling stolen property .
Go talk to the punks, $$$ in hand.
Bring an 8X10 GLOSSY photo of a piece of jewelry (it doesn’t have to be a pic of a piece that was stolen) and pass it around. Make sure that they all touch it. They probably won’t think any thing of it. Especially if you have $500 bucks in cash fanned out in front of them. Then have the photo dusted of prints. It’s fishing, but who knows, you might just get a bite, or possibly land a whopper.
The glossy photo will be better for collecting the prints. You won’t know which little punk did it, but it should give the cops some more to go on.
Bring an 8X10 GLOSSY photo of a piece of jewelry (it doesn’t have to be a pic of a piece that was stolen) and pass it around. Make sure that they all touch it. They probably won’t think any thing of it. Especially if you have $500 bucks in cash fanned out in front of them. Then have the photo dusted of prints. It’s fishing, but who knows, you might just get a bite, or possibly land a whopper.
The glossy photo will be better for collecting the prints. You won’t know which little punk did it, but it should give the cops some more to go on.
lacoochee
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Everyone keeps saying check the local pawnshops
This is not necessary in Florida an itemized list of everything that each pawn shop takes in on a daily basis, purchased or pawned, is given to the county Sheriff's Office and loaded into a database. That's where I would check first, but having said that it is rare for items stolen in a robbery to end up in a pawnshop. Thieves don't like that whole pesky fingerprint and copy of a photo id thing. That's not to say that pawnshops don't get stolen items, sadly most of these are pawned by family members or house guests. Normally, they get bought back quietly without the police involved.
Where you want to look for stolen jewelry in Florida look on e-bay, check antique shops (they aren't required to keep records like pawnshops), and actual jewelry stores (also not required to keep records like pawnshops).
Oh and too keep it gun related, you may want to check the local range and see if the RO has seen any "kids" or "punks" playing gangsta' with a firearm matching the Rugers description.
This is not necessary in Florida an itemized list of everything that each pawn shop takes in on a daily basis, purchased or pawned, is given to the county Sheriff's Office and loaded into a database. That's where I would check first, but having said that it is rare for items stolen in a robbery to end up in a pawnshop. Thieves don't like that whole pesky fingerprint and copy of a photo id thing. That's not to say that pawnshops don't get stolen items, sadly most of these are pawned by family members or house guests. Normally, they get bought back quietly without the police involved.
Where you want to look for stolen jewelry in Florida look on e-bay, check antique shops (they aren't required to keep records like pawnshops), and actual jewelry stores (also not required to keep records like pawnshops).
Oh and too keep it gun related, you may want to check the local range and see if the RO has seen any "kids" or "punks" playing gangsta' with a firearm matching the Rugers description.
gyp_c2
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hmmm...
...awful business...BTDT...
Grabbed everything that was easily carried and worth $... shooting bag, camera bag, emptied drawers on bed and sorted through costume and valuable jewelry, tossed mattresses to see underneath. (missed my Detonics though) ...very thorough...
I would expect another one within a short time...They will wait long enough for a quick insurance replacement
...30 days later, as I came home from the hospital after a 3-11, someone was going out the back as I came in the front...must have surprised them, nothing missing...
If it had been my wife and baby coming home instead of me, they might not have been so eager to leave...
...Nothing wrong with relocating your loved ones...
I did it...
...awful business...BTDT...
Grabbed everything that was easily carried and worth $... shooting bag, camera bag, emptied drawers on bed and sorted through costume and valuable jewelry, tossed mattresses to see underneath. (missed my Detonics though) ...very thorough... I would expect another one within a short time...They will wait long enough for a quick insurance replacement
...30 days later, as I came home from the hospital after a 3-11, someone was going out the back as I came in the front...must have surprised them, nothing missing...
If it had been my wife and baby coming home instead of me, they might not have been so eager to leave...
...Nothing wrong with relocating your loved ones...
I did it...
I used to live in a neighborhood with a couple of wanna-be gangsters. Without going into the "how-to", I brought them around to my side. They looked out for my step-son and kept me updated on neighborhood intelligence.
One day my truck was broken into. A tower computer and a 17" CRT monitor were stolen, along with smaller stuff.
I didn't report the theft because I had ZERO confidence that the police would find my stuff and the value was below the deductible on my auto insurance.
My two "neighborhood watch" boys came by and wanted to know if anything was missing. I described the stolen goods and said, "If you can find my stuff and bring it back, I'll pay you $20." They lit up and started talking about a guy they knew who might be the perp.
I said, "I don't want to know a name or an address or anything. I just want my stuff."
They came back about 10 that night with my computer and monitor on skateboards. I passed them $20 and thanked them for their efforts.
Case closed.
YMMV one hell of a lot.
Bill
One day my truck was broken into. A tower computer and a 17" CRT monitor were stolen, along with smaller stuff.
I didn't report the theft because I had ZERO confidence that the police would find my stuff and the value was below the deductible on my auto insurance.
My two "neighborhood watch" boys came by and wanted to know if anything was missing. I described the stolen goods and said, "If you can find my stuff and bring it back, I'll pay you $20." They lit up and started talking about a guy they knew who might be the perp.
I said, "I don't want to know a name or an address or anything. I just want my stuff."
They came back about 10 that night with my computer and monitor on skateboards. I passed them $20 and thanked them for their efforts.
Case closed.
YMMV one hell of a lot.
Bill
Dad installed a flush-mount, electronic lock wall "safe" in Mom's walk-in closet to store frequently-worn jewelry. Hidden behind the door, you have to shut yourself in the closet to access it. I think it only cost about $200 and was relatively easy to install (find studs, cut rectangular hole in drywall, bolt safe to studs from the inside), it wouldnt keep out a professional and a determined thief could just chainsaw the wall around it and take the whole thing, but its still better than a box on her sink.
Maybe the gift had something to do with one too many "I think I dropped a ring/earring/pendant down the sink drain, could you check the trap?" incidents...
Kharn
Maybe the gift had something to do with one too many "I think I dropped a ring/earring/pendant down the sink drain, could you check the trap?" incidents...
Kharn
The same thing has happened to my parents and four of their neighbors in less the two years. The police have said there is ring of thieves in their suburb who specialize in the quick snatch and leave. They come in through unlocked first of second floor windows. They always watch the homes and take only things that are untraceable. They have hit at least a dozen homes in a 10-mile radius in the last few years.
They live in the 'burbs on a quiet street. It's sad really. We lost a lot of family heirlooms. The best advice is not just having locks on your door, but also making sure all your windows are locked and alarmed (or have infra red sensors all through out the house). Cut down any tree braches near windows and trim bushes and plants that will provide thieves with concealment as they try to break in.
Spend an hour or so trying to break into your own home. Can you climb up to a balcony or landing to gain entry? Look for things that might make your house an appealing target. Thieves have a choice of homes to rob. Making your home as high risk to break into while deter them. It’s possible to make your home an unappealing target, while making most homes completely secure is not.
They live in the 'burbs on a quiet street. It's sad really. We lost a lot of family heirlooms. The best advice is not just having locks on your door, but also making sure all your windows are locked and alarmed (or have infra red sensors all through out the house). Cut down any tree braches near windows and trim bushes and plants that will provide thieves with concealment as they try to break in.
Spend an hour or so trying to break into your own home. Can you climb up to a balcony or landing to gain entry? Look for things that might make your house an appealing target. Thieves have a choice of homes to rob. Making your home as high risk to break into while deter them. It’s possible to make your home an unappealing target, while making most homes completely secure is not.
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03Shadowbob
Just stumbled on this from months ago.
Was there ever a resolution?
Catch the guys?
Parents security handled?
Just stumbled on this from months ago.
Was there ever a resolution?
Catch the guys?
Parents security handled?
03Shadowbob
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Hey Arfin,
Parents got a great security system that records conversations and video tapes rooms in the house when the alarm goes off. Dad has bought a couple new guns to replace the stolen one so in a wierd way this kind of is a blessing in disguise as now dad and I have one more hobby we can spend our time together enjoying. He hadn't been to a gun show in years and I don't think we have missed one yet since it happened.
Nothing was ever recovered which really is terrible due to family heirlooms with the gun and all mom's jewelry.
As far as the punks, karma has a way of settling things for the righteous and less fortunate so I will let it do it's job as I really don't need to go to jail right now
Parents got a great security system that records conversations and video tapes rooms in the house when the alarm goes off. Dad has bought a couple new guns to replace the stolen one so in a wierd way this kind of is a blessing in disguise as now dad and I have one more hobby we can spend our time together enjoying. He hadn't been to a gun show in years and I don't think we have missed one yet since it happened.
Nothing was ever recovered which really is terrible due to family heirlooms with the gun and all mom's jewelry.
As far as the punks, karma has a way of settling things for the righteous and less fortunate so I will let it do it's job as I really don't need to go to jail right now
DomMega
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that sucks, sorry to hear it bro.
At least at the very minimum it wasn't done why your parents were in the house. I hate thieves, its very cowardly. I would definitely suggest getting some kind of deterrent, like a big mean scary dog. That usually helps, dogs scare people and scaring intruders is a definite plus.
Again, sorry to hear that. At least nobody was hurt like I said. I wouldn't put it past the locals for a second, and chances are somebody saw something.
Also, I didn't read every post but check every local pawn shop in the neighborhood. I can almost guarantee they went and hocked the stuff there. Its not like they know any jewelers who will pay them top notch for the stuff, any person with common sense will know its stolen.
Check the pawn shops dude, you may be surprised. Check the ones directly in town and a few just outside of town. They might've hocked them right outside of town thinking you wouldn't check there and the pawn shop owner should be able to describe them for you. When I got a bunch of CD's stolen out of my car back in '98 I recovered half of what was stolen from places that bought used CD's. Its worth a try.
At least at the very minimum it wasn't done why your parents were in the house. I hate thieves, its very cowardly. I would definitely suggest getting some kind of deterrent, like a big mean scary dog. That usually helps, dogs scare people and scaring intruders is a definite plus.
Again, sorry to hear that. At least nobody was hurt like I said. I wouldn't put it past the locals for a second, and chances are somebody saw something.
Also, I didn't read every post but check every local pawn shop in the neighborhood. I can almost guarantee they went and hocked the stuff there. Its not like they know any jewelers who will pay them top notch for the stuff, any person with common sense will know its stolen.
Check the pawn shops dude, you may be surprised. Check the ones directly in town and a few just outside of town. They might've hocked them right outside of town thinking you wouldn't check there and the pawn shop owner should be able to describe them for you. When I got a bunch of CD's stolen out of my car back in '98 I recovered half of what was stolen from places that bought used CD's. Its worth a try.
fishingjld
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sorry to hear about your parents. i was also broken into last summer. i tell you its thieves that will get me sent to prison. i cannot understand why anyone would do that. but i guess i was brought up right. hope you find them. good luck
sm
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03Shadowbob,
I am sorry for your parents sake.
They will get robbed again.
Pay. Attention. Here.
--Do NOT offer youths on the corner $$$.
This makes YOU a mark, and anything from being followed home to your home, running your tags [don't think BGs cannot get a car tag run] putting you and yours at risk, also making sure your parents do get hit again, to collect a reward.
One of the oldest cons in the book.
--Detectives , Insurance Adjusters, and Mom & Pop Locksmith/Safe/Alarm folks are what are needed NOW.
Write everything down, for detectives, and insurance adjusters, often times if more than one insured is hit in an area, their investigators are called out.
Leave it 'open' to add additional mdse noted missing.
--Get Jlrs to do a letter on Stationary, with any information of identifying marks , that may not be on Appraisal, or understood by detectives.
[Terminology of terms, and special markings, repair and all have assisted officers on cases , with recovered Jlry.]
See if any Mail was taken from Mail Box. Hell hath no fury like a Postal Inspector.
--Mom & Pop Locksmith/Safe/Alarm folks should be allowed to inspect, access, and address security concerns immediately!
~~
Often times merchandise is already sold before it is stolen.
BG has customers, and or fences for certain mdse.
"Youths" being "youth's" , and depending on jurisdictions, are paid well to do these robberies...
They are also trained to case, observe and report.
Every BG in the world knows, a person is going to replace with insurance, mdse taken.
House gets hit again.
Insurance settles again.
BGs hit again
Another one of the oldest games in the book.
ADD...
CASE, observe and report.
Well the youths simply tell the BG everything when taking what they did.
BG has other more Professional Thugs to do more Special Crimes.
For instance:
Preacher , casing the joint says this house belongs to a Preacher.
Sunday morning, evening, Wed night are a great time to hit this house next time.
Firefighter/ EMT uniform in closet. Great!
Young cute wife all along when hubby works the wee hours shift.
Umm, ya know, that old boy is owed a special favor for the last job, lets let him "entertain" the cute wife, while the other BGs get the long guns, as there are trophies on the wall...
Bank Mgr. Cool, this dippy blond would be easy to kidnap and forced to open her branch bank...
We have Police, Insurance, and Mom & Pop Locksmith/Safe/Alarm folks for a reason - use them!
He whom has himself for a doctor has a fool as a patient - anon
I am sorry for your parents sake.
They will get robbed again.
Pay. Attention. Here.
--Do NOT offer youths on the corner $$$.
This makes YOU a mark, and anything from being followed home to your home, running your tags [don't think BGs cannot get a car tag run] putting you and yours at risk, also making sure your parents do get hit again, to collect a reward.
One of the oldest cons in the book.
--Detectives , Insurance Adjusters, and Mom & Pop Locksmith/Safe/Alarm folks are what are needed NOW.
Write everything down, for detectives, and insurance adjusters, often times if more than one insured is hit in an area, their investigators are called out.
Leave it 'open' to add additional mdse noted missing.
--Get Jlrs to do a letter on Stationary, with any information of identifying marks , that may not be on Appraisal, or understood by detectives.
[Terminology of terms, and special markings, repair and all have assisted officers on cases , with recovered Jlry.]
See if any Mail was taken from Mail Box. Hell hath no fury like a Postal Inspector.
--Mom & Pop Locksmith/Safe/Alarm folks should be allowed to inspect, access, and address security concerns immediately!
~~
Often times merchandise is already sold before it is stolen.
BG has customers, and or fences for certain mdse.
"Youths" being "youth's" , and depending on jurisdictions, are paid well to do these robberies...
They are also trained to case, observe and report.
Every BG in the world knows, a person is going to replace with insurance, mdse taken.
House gets hit again.
Insurance settles again.
BGs hit again
Another one of the oldest games in the book.
ADD...
CASE, observe and report.
Well the youths simply tell the BG everything when taking what they did.
BG has other more Professional Thugs to do more Special Crimes.
For instance:
Preacher , casing the joint says this house belongs to a Preacher.
Sunday morning, evening, Wed night are a great time to hit this house next time.
Firefighter/ EMT uniform in closet. Great!
Young cute wife all along when hubby works the wee hours shift.
Umm, ya know, that old boy is owed a special favor for the last job, lets let him "entertain" the cute wife, while the other BGs get the long guns, as there are trophies on the wall...
Bank Mgr. Cool, this dippy blond would be easy to kidnap and forced to open her branch bank...
We have Police, Insurance, and Mom & Pop Locksmith/Safe/Alarm folks for a reason - use them!
He whom has himself for a doctor has a fool as a patient - anon
What type of alarm did they have? Im guessing none? What type of locks? Were the strike plates put in with long enough screws? Type of window locks? My point being, if people make a soft target of their home then they will have a higher chance of getting robbed. It's amazing to me how cheap and easy it is to make a home MUCH harder to break into, and yet so few people do it, and then are stunned when they get robbed. Getting robbed really sucks, and for a fraction of the $$$ of what was stolen, one can greatly improve security. People want to feel like they live in a safe area, and by increasing their security, they some how feel less safe, right up to the day they walk in to find all their stuff gone. Not pointing these comments at any one person here, but when ever I read such a story, it reminds me to tell people they need to harden up their homes to make such an event less likely.
No matter what area you live in, high crime or low, it's just common sense and easy enough to make your home very hard to rob.
No matter what area you live in, high crime or low, it's just common sense and easy enough to make your home very hard to rob.
03Shadowbob
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Will,
Correct! The guys went through the front door by just chiseling out the wood where the bolt went and the npopped it open. Probably took .5 seconds. They are all nice and tight now and a baby German Shepherd will probably be on the way soon
Correct! The guys went through the front door by just chiseling out the wood where the bolt went and the npopped it open. Probably took .5 seconds. They are all nice and tight now and a baby German Shepherd will probably be on the way soon
Good to hear, but too bad it always happens after the event to make people see they dont live in la la land. Something like 50% of the people with alarms who get robbed didnt have them turned on! Good security has layers and does not count on one thing to prevent a break in. If it were hard to do or really expensive to have good security, I could at least understand the excuses for why people dont have it.
I see this with my own friends and familily, so I am bitching out loud about that vs directing it at you and yours. It seems mostly a psychological issue vs anything practical per se; people feel if they admit something like that can happen, and take steps to avoid it, they some how increase the risk of it happening vs the reverse, which is the reality. My own brother said "I dont want to feel like I am living in a prison" to me once. One day his wife comes home and there is a man standing in their livingroom! He was some homeless guy who got past their cheap ass door lock with a pen knife and was just grabbing some food and such.
He ran out the door when she yelled at him. What if he had been violent? A rapest? etc? Then, after such an event, did an alarm show up in their house. No improvement in locks and such mind you, but the alarm was put in, which BTW, they fail to actually turn on much of the time....
I see this with my own friends and familily, so I am bitching out loud about that vs directing it at you and yours. It seems mostly a psychological issue vs anything practical per se; people feel if they admit something like that can happen, and take steps to avoid it, they some how increase the risk of it happening vs the reverse, which is the reality. My own brother said "I dont want to feel like I am living in a prison" to me once. One day his wife comes home and there is a man standing in their livingroom! He was some homeless guy who got past their cheap ass door lock with a pen knife and was just grabbing some food and such.
He ran out the door when she yelled at him. What if he had been violent? A rapest? etc? Then, after such an event, did an alarm show up in their house. No improvement in locks and such mind you, but the alarm was put in, which BTW, they fail to actually turn on much of the time....
glockman19
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I'd like to hear more about the security system tha trecords when activated. What system? How many cameras? What's the cost? Can it be added to an existing system, ADT, Brinks? I'd be interested in getting one.
anotherKevin
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After I spent some time chortling at the TV show "it takes a thief", I went outside and tried breaking in. To my horror, it took around 30 seconds. I needed to adjust all the windows - the installer had never locked them in the sliders. They were installed by the previous owners, and I'd never checked!
Wish I could update the doors to metal ones, but we're working on selling ...
Wish I could update the doors to metal ones, but we're working on selling ...
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We had a thread in the local forum about this very topic. I have tried it in the past and the only place I was able to enter was the mudroom.
so much for the beer fridge...
Seriously it is a VERY good practice to try this from time to time and keep up to date on your security needs.
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Sorry for your loss, it's good no one in your family got hurt.
langenc
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It dont take the locals long to figure out when someone is home ao not. They see you drive by nearing dinnertime and they know you will be gone an hour or so and bingo. Or they see you/vehicle at a restaurant and bingo(small town).
This is why i feel having a gun in your home not secured in a safe is VERY dangerous.
If the BG doesnt already have a weapon on him, then he surely will when he finds yours "hidden" in your home.
Id surely hate to come home when a burglar was still inside my home with my gun in his hands.
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