Mossberg enters the handgun market
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rskent
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Yah, when I saw the picture I wondered if they just bought the parts from Glock or if they made them.
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rskent
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I can see a whole bunch of shotgunners carrying this gun. I think it will be a success (if it is reliable). Maybe not of the magnitude of the P365, but a success never the less. There are a bunch of Mossberg fans out there. And a lot of shotgunners that like or are used to a cross bolt safety. The safety makes it unique. Without the safety it’s just another poly striker 9.
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The fact that it is another striker fired gun is irrelevant. Yes there are many, but most have their unique characteristics. There are many 4 or 6 cylinder cars out there, but so what. Does not mean they are all the same. I do not see why Popularity of Sales means squat. If it is not as Popular as the 365 means absolutely nothing. The cross bolt safety is not the game changer, but maybe just a great idea and on a pistol may not be the same as a shotgun in use or handling. Many folks are Mossberg fans and many folks like a gun that is very dependable. And so far it is running strong on dependability. I can never understand why in the firearm world, guns are based on popularity. I have seen some that I would not ever think of buying again, just because it is popular. There is a huge difference in buyer's of firearms vs shooters. And all the shooters that I know, want a gun that they feel has the best features, feel, grip, trigger, sights that fits their particular desires.
One thing that does interest me is the way the Pistol takes down and how easy it would be to keep the Striker channel clean or replaced. What a great idea. I have some firearms that I have cleaned and some easy, but some difficult and of course that lost spring.
I am also interested in the Magazines. Will these polymer mags hold up well? Are they lighter to carry? I like the fact that you can see how many rounds. Not a big deal, but just something unique.
So far I am liking what I see. But that is just the Menu. I want to taste the product. Maybe a fantastic firearm, maybe not. But just like I am betting the Glock 43x and the Sig 365 will be very successful, I am also betting this gun might be as well. (And successful does NOT mean most popular)
And even though I am not a Glock fan, Glock builds great guns. If Mossberg borrows ideas or parts from Glock, Beretta, Sig, etc, then Bravo to them!
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Base $425 means $350 to $375 for a Mossberg. No thanks.
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There is a link on page 2 that shows a street price of $334. I think it will go down from there.
Jeb Stuart
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Some folks like cross bolt safeties.
It will have to compete with Ruger. I would pick Walther made in Germany. The Walther PPS M2 is $350 at Buds. That price includes Tennifer finish on metal and more importantly depending on average cartridge pressure of chambering one or two shots at the Ulm proof house.
You make good chips in Texas. Dorritos is my favorite brand.
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God loves variety in all things! Choices are wonderful things to have.
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Why don't you start a thread on the Walter PPS M2 rather than just trying in every way to bash a gun you have not even shot and the location of where it is made. Maybe start a thread about your favorite chips would be even better.
JR24
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Fascinating. Hopefully it goes well for them.
Tiny 9mms aren't my thing, but it does look cool. I'll at least try the trigger sometime.
Tiny 9mms aren't my thing, but it does look cool. I'll at least try the trigger sometime.
doubleh
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It all sounds good and at least they didn't copy Glock's sway backed grip.
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That’s the only thing keeping me from one. Shot them. I just don’t care for that grip angle. Same with lugers.
I don’t really want a glock, but I certainly don’t disparage them. Just not my cuppa tea.
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Using the Glock mags is a good way to stay competitive in the over saturated 9mm carry market. No matter what Glock it is, there's going to be a ton of aftermarket mag options and ETS has been making G43 mags for a couple years now including a 12 round extended mag. I'd love it if someone would come out with a DA/SA 9mm that used Glock mags.
Hopefully this isn't Mossberg's only pistol they make, I would really like a .22 that uses the 10 rd Mossberg Plinkster magazines.
Hopefully this isn't Mossberg's only pistol they make, I would really like a .22 that uses the 10 rd Mossberg Plinkster magazines.
It only seems fair since the Glock 17 was developed from a bunch of borrowed ideas:
1. polymer frame - H&K
2. grip angle - Luger (among others)
3. lock-up - SIG Sauer
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Actually starting to see why the cross bolt may be a good idea.
And already know one Glock enthusiast that is seriously wishing his Glock had a crossbolt safety, especially since his went off through his hip and traveled all the way down his leg. And with a hollow point. Nasty wound for sure, and came so close to KILLING him.
And already know one Glock enthusiast that is seriously wishing his Glock had a crossbolt safety, especially since his went off through his hip and traveled all the way down his leg. And with a hollow point. Nasty wound for sure, and came so close to KILLING him.
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I think if I were going to get one I would go with the non-safety model. Not all that crazy about the crossbolt safety, it's location, and how it works. If it had to have a safety I would prefer one like the thumb safety on a 1911.
Of course I'm not all that thrilled regarding the location of the safety on my Steyr M1; don't think you should be messing around with a push-up type safety inside of the trigger guard!
Of course I'm not all that thrilled regarding the location of the safety on my Steyr M1; don't think you should be messing around with a push-up type safety inside of the trigger guard!
I figure that if I could learn to work the safety on my issued Remington 870...even though I prefered the Mossberg...how hard could it be to work this cross bolt safety.
It has to be easier than when I had to learn to work the safety on a S&W M-39 or a H&K P9S
It has to be easier than when I had to learn to work the safety on a S&W M-39 or a H&K P9S
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On this pistol i think i prefer not having the safety.
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I think it is possible, it is more than just a Cruciform. It is a direct competition with Glock. And maybe even a more likeable gun with better features to some folks. For folks that were not drawn to the Glock, this may really catch their attention. It has caught mine. Using Glock Magazines may even convert many Glock owners. And I think the Crossbolt safety "Option" is brilliant. Look at the Glock vs Mossberg and compare. And if the Mossberg is at a better Price point than the Glock, with more features are more appeasing features to some, this gun will most definitely be a big seller. Many that did not like the grip of the Glock may like this grip.The more 1911 grip style is something I have always liked. I am very interested in this gun.
I suspect this gun will not make some Glock owners happy.
The gun is already on a great course. The Gunsite shooters liked it and one shooter doing well at 50yds which shows the capability of the gun. Glock owners should not be disparaging. Maybe they should be flattered.
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I keep seeing reference to using Glock magazines. What's the source for that info?
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The article in the original post is the source.
armarsh
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The back plate is what retains the slide, so you have no choice but to take it off.
Jump to 0:27 to see how it works.
Jeb Stuart
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And so easy to clean the channel which I would like to do every time. Bravo to Mossberg on this one. Really thinking out of the box.
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