Most accurate handgun platform...for noobs

[Idahou]

Merry chrismas! Lets enjoy some light disscussion

EDIT:

Thanks for all reactions, i just point on that it should be more technical aspect disscusiion

I dont look for gun what will make me better shooter - it just led me to think about current most prominent platforms and diffrent approach to handgun design.

So lets do this - your are big head in your army and you got task to choose new handgun (even nonexisting if you can put it together with toadys technology and presented limits) for recruits wich never used gun, it have to be gun which can be mass produced for reasonable amount of money (not a trash budget gun, but also not a race or custom gun) in calibre with power close to 9mm (so no .22LR) and because BS politicans - your recruits have to get highest posible accuracy per shot or per fast fired group of 5 or combined in first day without invidual training (meaning one instructur per group ppl and so) - if not, your budget will be cut off. Minimal capacity is 5 rounds and gun size must be in service handgun cathegory.
What platform or handgun will you choose or what you will design in order to met said critteria?


Original post:

Few days ago i was on shooting range with my friend and we both shot quite a bad groups (not extremly, we are just hars to ourselfs) and just for joke i said that we should buy new guns because we sucks with those (APX and P-01 i think). It was joke ... kinda, because we always looks for new excuses why to buy guns

But it led to disscussion about witch handgun platform is most accurate for, lets say, untrained shooter.
Meaning which guns generally tend to be most new-shooter friendly in regards of accuracy per shot and per group (magazine, cylinder)

My first guess was 1911 because trigger pull (but i actually never shot it) and revolver with some more lighter load/calibre since absence of moving slide could help with next shots

But there are some other designs - like Beretta PX4 or Alien, HK VP7 or even Chiappa Rhino (few review mentioned that due to diffrent grip shooters tend to not pul gun to side...)

Please note, i dont look for magic gun which would make me a sharpshooter without trainging i just find it interesting topic
"Race guns" and some custom specials exluded
Also im aware that APX is often in list of most accurate handguns

 

[DTL]

I have a 9mm Springfield Armory Range Officer Target model that I swear if I loaded it & laid it down it would drive tacks all day long. The only reason it isn't that accurate is because I insist on holding it & shooting myself.

 

[Tallball]

A nice 22 like a Ruger Mark or Buck Mark. Everyone I shoot with shoots them better than anything else. 22's are great for beginners.

Ruger Mark II 22lr

• Tallball
• Jul 25, 2020

 

[JoeHenry]

To me, there is nothing better than a 6” barrel Smith & Wesson or a Colt. I shot NRA action pistol for over ten years and never improved until I started shooting a Smith & Wesson 686 with a 6” barrel. Holding on target and pulling the double action trigger is the way to better accurate shooting.

 

[kidneyboy]

My first guess was 1911 because trigger pull (but i actually never shot it) and revolver with some more lighter load/calibre since absence of moving slide could help with next shots

Those 2 platforms would be my suggestions.

 

[JTQ]

A nice 22 like a Ruger Mark or Buck Mark. Everyone I shoot with shoots them better than anything else. 22's are great for beginners.

I agree with this.

 

[someguy2800]

Browning buckmark or a revolver. Everyone should have a 22 lr pistol. Your shooting will improve immensely.

 

[PapaG]

For pure accuracy, Contender, XP 100, Stryker, or any of a few other precision single shots. For conventional guns, Freedom Arms single actions, well tuned 1911 or any old K masterpiece.

 

[JEBruns]

CZ Shadow 2 Orange, although the trigger might be a little light for a noob. There is a reason the Shadow 2 is the most popular gun in USPSA production class. The gun in 2nd place is a knock off of the Shadow 2.
https://www.ssusa.org/content/top-uspsa-production-handguns-in-2020/

 

[Blkhrt13]

Look for a range that lets you try their pistols without a stiff fee for changing brands. Fit of the grip to the hand, grip angle and bore axis are key in shooting accuracy. Some of your problem may also be trigger finger placement and pull technique. There is no magic gun that fixes poor handling skills. But having a trigger that falls well within your own biometrics helps. This may sound crazy, but you may want to start with a ruger single six or a heritage rough rider and try to sort your pull with cheaper feed than 9mm. The fact you are having issues with a P01 makes me think it’s soft skills not hardware.

 

[chaim]

IMO, the easiest guns to shoot accurately are 1911s in .45 and pretty much any variant of the CZ 75B.

 

[Y-T71]

IMO, the easiest guns to shoot accurately are 1911s in .45 and pretty much any variant of the CZ 75B.

Brother in law and I took a new shooter out recently and what he did the best with and enjoyed the most were my CZ P-01 9mm and Springfield 1911 .45acp (runner up was full size CZ 75)

Turned down the Glock 19 early in our 2 hr session.

 

[mavracer]

A nice 22 like a Ruger Mark or Buck Mark. Everyone I shoot with shoots them better than anything else. 22's are great for beginners.

This

 

[Hal]

To me, there is nothing better than a 6” barrel Smith & Wesson or a Colt. I shot NRA action pistol for over ten years and never improved until I started shooting a Smith & Wesson 686 with a 6” barrel. Holding on target and pulling the double action trigger is the way to better accurate shooting.

Learn the D/A revolver and your shooting will improve beyond any other method.

 

[buck460XVR]

Whenever a question like this is asked on a gun forum, the majority of replies will be......."a gun just like mine!"

 

[someguy2800]

You have to be a very good shooter to be able to tell the difference in mechanical accuracy between 2 different pistols because most people shoot 10 times larger groups than the pistol is mechanically capable of. Mechanical accuracy meaning how well the pistol would shoot if it was clamped in a bench fixture with nobody touching it. Some pistols are much easier to shoot close to that mechanical accuracy than others. Your P01 probably has a mechanical accuracy of about 2 inches at 25 yards. The best way to learn to be able to reduce your inaccuracy and get closer to what the gun is capable of is shooting many thousands of rounds of 22lr in a target pistol like a buckmark or S&W victory. When you can master trigger control with that, then you do dry fire practice with your 9mm every day for months combined with range sessions until you can shoot the 9mm as well as the 22lr. Don’t forget to mix dry fire practice in between mags during your range sessions as well. The goal is to learn to pull the trigger without moving the sights.

 

[Y-T71]

Whenever a question like this is asked on a gun forum, the majority of replies will be......."a gun just like mine!"

True and, I hesitated to post in this but, frankly, I was surprised that the Glock got no love from our new shooter.

In my experience new shooters tend to gravitate towards Glock; they're inexpensive, simple to use, in every gun shop, on TV, in movies and usually the first recommendation when the question "what should I buy?" gets asked.

 

[Archie]

A nice 22 like a Ruger Mark or Buck Mark. Everyone I shoot with shoots them better than anything else. 22's are great for beginners.

Ruger Mark II 22lr

• Tallball
• Jul 25, 2020

Second the motion. Ruger Automatic .22 long rifle. I understand the newest version is the easiest to field strip, but they all shoot well.

 

[someguy2800]

True and, I hesitated to post in this but, frankly, I was surprised that the Glock got no love from our new shooter.

In my experience new shooters tend to gravitate towards Glock; they're inexpensive, simple to use, in every gun shop, on TV, in movies and usually the first recommendation when the question "what should I buy?" gets asked.

I think it is a good choice as a defensive handgun for a beginner and expert alike because they are safe and reliable and dead simple to use, but in my opinion they are very difficult to learn to shoot accurately, so in the context of this thread it wouldn’t be my choice.

 

[trackskippy]

Spend the time and effort to shoot any of them to the point that you dont have to think about shooting them, and I think youll find they all shoot a lot alike.

 

[.455_Hunter]

K22

 

[Jim Watson]

A good .22 is easiest to learn to shoot well.
But the Internet Generation tends to find them "boring."

 

[d2wing]

I agree with the Ruger Mark ll. I think in centerfire I shoot my Ruger Security -Six well. It has aftermarket springs and grips. I also shoot my H&K VP9 well. It had adjustable grips that are supercomfy and a light trigger. My H&K USP 9 is supposed to be really accurate, but the grips don't fit me that well. I did come close to beating a guy with a custom 1911 in a match I had more bullseyes at first but I couldn't hold steady after a few shots due to injury.

 

[Targa]

Have to go with Tallball on this one.

 

[oldschool45]

I'm going to go of on some what of a tanget here and say dryfire practice. Just past a good double action revolver (686-6 4" myself) is the Mantis dryfire system. I do what we call gun calesthenics in the morning which is around 50 "shots" of dry fire , strong hand, support hand and Compressed Suprise break. I went from patterning like a shotgun to grouping with just about anything I put in my hand.