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If those results are typical, I would do a lot more plinking before I carried that gun.Now there’s absolutely no way I would be able to get these results without plinking.
If those results are typical, I would do a lot more plinking before I carried that gun.Now there’s absolutely no way I would be able to get these results without plinking.
Besides, in a real life situation with adrenaline pumping and the attacker moving around (only an idiot would just stay there like a stationary target), perhaps you should not pull the gun if there’s even a slightest chance of missing ? Unless you have laser eyes and robotic precision.
Not to speak for Wonderling, but I have shot the LCP, probably more so than yourself. And yes, at close range it can be extremely accurate and fast. I get the feeling you have not shot one very much.
I get the feeling you're absolutely correct. I have zero us for the Little Crappy Pistol
If those results are typical, I would do a lot more plinking before I carried that gun.
The point here is, at 15 ft I can shoot an LCP just as Poorly as any Glock
FIFY.
WADR that's extremely poor shooting dude. I highly recommend some actual training before you carry a gun outside your home
Monkey, I might suggest your worry more about the bad guys, and your ability and training, rather than focus on Wanderlings.
I'll take that under advisement.
I'll also point out I'm not the only one saying it was crappy shooting
No one has said that, but as one member has advised you, YOU are responsible for every round leaving the barrel of your handgun. And unless you are proficient -- AND have a clear field of fire -- you probably should not take the shot. And I certainly, over the years, have not seen very many folks who demonstrate a high level of proficiency with little pistols.Besides, in a real life situation with adrenaline pumping and the attacker moving around (only an idiot would just stay there like a stationary target), perhaps you should not pull the gun if there’s even a slightest chance of missing ? Unless you have laser eyes and robotic precision.
However, much of what is said in the internet's gun world comes from those who've never been in an armed encounter nor are required to carry a firearm or train with it as a condition of their employment ... Giving people advice on what size handgun they should carry, or what particular mode of carry they should employ, is really stepping out on that slippery ledge. In what other arena do so many anonymous net-surfers presume to tell others how they should defend themselves should they face a critical life or death armed encounter? And why would we expect anyone to take all this free anonymous advice?
Heck, I bet there are tens of thousands of folks that bought these guns and say they are Crappy shooters. I could not hit the side of a barn door with the first one I bought. In fact, I remember well the first time I shot one just like it was yesterday and that was about 10 years ago.. Almost missed the entire target. I remember the bullet went high Right, almost hit the hanger. Hurt my finger like hell. The only difference in you and me, was the fact that I did not blame the gun. On the contrary, I blamed myself for lack of shooting skills with this little sucker. And for sure I was not about to let this little gun show me up. Too much pride for that. Started a journey of shooting these little guns on a regular basis and the only thing I can say, is this. A WHOLE lot of improvement along the way. In fact to the point that I became to admire what they can do and how well they can shoot. No not just the LCP but even smoother Pocket guns as well.
Take the Challenge Monkey, you can do it, don't let this little gun send you running into a corner. Once you get to know him, he won't bite you anymore.
*And the funny thing is, after taking charge of the gun, I no longer thought about the recoil, my finger no longer hurt and I could shoot the heck out of this little gun.
It’s as easy as with Glock 17 to hit the center of mass at 15 ft after a little training, yes. Absolutely. I am not talking about repeatedly hitting the bullseye after careful aiming.
Funny that you should say that, as I did it just yesterday. This was not done with careful aiming but a high speed mag dump after pulling the gun out of a pocket holster. 15 ft, 7+1 rounds.
Looks like the 8th is on the bottom far left?
Jeb, you don't like big trucks either? It's a little early, have you been into the bourbon already?
How about this? double barrel using two fingers. 22mag
Folks on this forum are for the most part big shooting enthusiast.
but are all newbie"s wanting to carry big into the sport like we are? Do they have the ability to train often, buy a lot of ammo like we do? Many variables
FIFY.
WADR that's extremely poor shooting dude. I highly recommend some actual training before you carry a gun outside your home
As I mentioned earlier, no matter what you carry, the need for consistent training and practice is essential. It is a big commitment to time and money.
Folks on this forum are for the most part big shooting enthusiast. But are all newbie"s wanting to carry big into the sport like we are? Do they have the ability to train often, buy a lot of ammo like we do? Many variables.
Sure. Trying to land as many shots on the target as possible while shooting as fast as possible is part of that. I am not saying that "spray and pray" is a good way for SD, quite the opposite. But in the real world scenario, who knows what can happen. I want to keep practicing until I land all shots on the target. I do think that for an average shooter, this is not the worst result for a mag dump - given that this is exactly 2nd time I tried it at all, and the first time with a LCP. Regardless of what people say, I am still pretty proud of. Most of the people at the ranges I go to seem to have problems keeping all shots on the target while carefully aiming. That's also part of the training, isn't it ?
No, they don't. And for most people, it's not even the cost of ammo, but the time commitment. When you have a job, a wife, a house, young kid or two, finding even an hour a week to go practicing is a huge commitment. Finding an instructor that will do it on your time schedule is hard and makes training even a biggest commitment. One or two lessons will definitely improve anyone's shooting, but for most people, especially younger people with young families, one or two lessons is all that they can do. Most of time, they get to the range when there's an opportunity, not systematically.
So basically what you are saying - whether you mean it or not - is that most people have no business carrying, and the shall issue states are doing the society a huge disfavor and a big mistake. Because I am convinced that most new gun owners don't go to the range at all or very rarely, and I can say with confidence that more than half of the people that I see at the range don't get the results that I get (not that I am a great shooter by any standard, but I at least can reliably hit the bullseye when taking the time to aim, while at least 2/3 rd of the people shooting in the lanes near are usually happy to get the same results I got with a mag dump while shooting about once every 30 seconds).
"Mag dumps" may be fun but are of little value, perhaps negative value, for practice/training. If you want to improve your skill, practice putting one shot exactly where you aim at 10 yards, then 15, 20..... Then 2, 3 and 4 shots, start slow and close increase speed and distance as your accuracy improves. Beyond 3 or 4 founds more is gained practicing mag changes than mag dumps.
"Mag dumps" may be fun but are of little value, perhaps negative value, for practice/training. If you want to improve your skill, practice putting one shot exactly where you aim at 10 yards, then 15, 20..... Then 2, 3 and 4 shots, start slow and close increase speed and distance as your accuracy improves. Beyond 3 or 4 founds more is gained practicing mag changes than mag dumps.