JImbothefiveth
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Just get a regular gift for mother's day. If you can't convince her you can't convince her. Don't need to be constantly fighting over it.
My anti-gun mom.
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As somene marrried to a anti-gun wife, I will say it's simply we "agree to disagree." Guns are not every aspect of my mindset; this disagreement does not polarize our mindsets as completely different on the whole. In short, the 2nd amendment debate does not define me or my marriage.
As the other married men (and women!) here know, it's give and take
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I fired mine.
I had fired all my family, except for her, and then I fired her.
Being the eldest, I assisted her, and in raising younger sibs, all my life.
The fella that sired me, was the first to be fired, at a very very young age.
With him, his side of the family was fired as well.
Sibs were next, including their spouses.
I am the one that stopped a threat against three armed adult males before age 13.
I am the one that stopped a threat against the fella that sired me, even after I had fired him.
I am the one that stopped a threat against a sister, and her kids.
I am the one that stopped a threat against the lady that gave me birth, more than once, and prevented other evils.
My thanks, besides the normal fussing and lecturing, was to set me up, so enemies in a work I did could do me harm.
My thanks was having my ID stolen.
My thanks was having my vehicle vandalized, repeatedly, and then finally being shot up.
I could list more...
My role in life was "doing the right thing".
They chose a role to hurt and destroy me.
Don't go where trouble is, leave if trouble shows up, deal with trouble if need be.
I fired them.
My responsibility is to me first, because if I do not take care of me, I cannot be there for others.
I have better things to do, with folks I care about, than to have those related by blood, make their life work, hurt me, and put me in harms way.
I have no idea if folks are still alive, or dead, or if I am a new uncle, or anything.
My instructions are, if I get hurt, sick or die, those bastids are to never to be contacted.
I'll die before I accept bone marrow, or kidney or anything else from them.
If and when I can, I will change my name.
My time and energies are best spent on those that want "it" - not those that don't want "it".
After all, part of the Anti strategy and tactic, is to disrupt, and channel energies away Responsible Firearm Ownership, by having "brush fires" needing to be put out all the time.
This is part of the S&T Tyranny uses as well. "Good families of the State, inform the State of family members and matters".
Just like "good comrades inform the State of neighbors and what goes on with them".
So I choose to not give family any power over me, with all the "brush fires" along with the other real life serious "towering infernos".
You cannot choose family, but you can damn well choose true friends.
I had fired all my family, except for her, and then I fired her.
Being the eldest, I assisted her, and in raising younger sibs, all my life.
The fella that sired me, was the first to be fired, at a very very young age.
With him, his side of the family was fired as well.
Sibs were next, including their spouses.
I am the one that stopped a threat against three armed adult males before age 13.
I am the one that stopped a threat against the fella that sired me, even after I had fired him.
I am the one that stopped a threat against a sister, and her kids.
I am the one that stopped a threat against the lady that gave me birth, more than once, and prevented other evils.
My thanks, besides the normal fussing and lecturing, was to set me up, so enemies in a work I did could do me harm.
My thanks was having my ID stolen.
My thanks was having my vehicle vandalized, repeatedly, and then finally being shot up.
I could list more...
My role in life was "doing the right thing".
They chose a role to hurt and destroy me.
Don't go where trouble is, leave if trouble shows up, deal with trouble if need be.
I fired them.
My responsibility is to me first, because if I do not take care of me, I cannot be there for others.
I have better things to do, with folks I care about, than to have those related by blood, make their life work, hurt me, and put me in harms way.
I have no idea if folks are still alive, or dead, or if I am a new uncle, or anything.
My instructions are, if I get hurt, sick or die, those bastids are to never to be contacted.
I'll die before I accept bone marrow, or kidney or anything else from them.
If and when I can, I will change my name.
My time and energies are best spent on those that want "it" - not those that don't want "it".
After all, part of the Anti strategy and tactic, is to disrupt, and channel energies away Responsible Firearm Ownership, by having "brush fires" needing to be put out all the time.
This is part of the S&T Tyranny uses as well. "Good families of the State, inform the State of family members and matters".
Just like "good comrades inform the State of neighbors and what goes on with them".
So I choose to not give family any power over me, with all the "brush fires" along with the other real life serious "towering infernos".
You cannot choose family, but you can damn well choose true friends.
Deanimator
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Truer words were never spoken.
There's no easier way to keep out of trouble than to avoid people you can't get along with. I got fed up with the way my mother treated me so I didn't see her for thirteen years. She mellowed out a lot in that time, and I learned to not care what she thought about what I did, and to totally ignore the negative or foolish things she said. Now I see her once a year (unfortunately in Chicago). I don't argue with her. I support myself and do whatever I please. That's the reward for being a self-supporting adult.
Why push her?
You may be taking the wrong approach anyway.
Does she know what's involved with getting a carry permit in TX? Does she support the idea?
Let that sink in a bit if she does.
Then, and only then, introduce the idea that 21+ year olds with carry permits have to leave their weapons outside their control when they attend classes because the law says they can't carry them on campus. Would she rather these people that the state has deemed suitable to carry everywhere else (don't get lost in a side discussion about other restricted places) have to lock their gun up in their car on campus where anyone might break into it and steal it? Better they have it under their control 100% of the time.
You may be taking the wrong approach anyway.
Does she know what's involved with getting a carry permit in TX? Does she support the idea?
Let that sink in a bit if she does.
Then, and only then, introduce the idea that 21+ year olds with carry permits have to leave their weapons outside their control when they attend classes because the law says they can't carry them on campus. Would she rather these people that the state has deemed suitable to carry everywhere else (don't get lost in a side discussion about other restricted places) have to lock their gun up in their car on campus where anyone might break into it and steal it? Better they have it under their control 100% of the time.
KarenTOC
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Speaking as a mother whose son was very much into guns while I was very much not, we got along fine. He didn't push his opinions on me, and I didn't harp on his choices. In other words, neither of us tried to convince the other that we were "right." We respected each other, and our right to hold contrary opinions. Perhaps you two could come to the same arrangement.
It worked well for us. Now that I have decided for myself that I do like guns, my son is now my shooting/rkba/gun mentor.
Someone said:
Back in the dark ages, when I was semi-anti-gun, I had my purse snatched. Guy grabbed it; I didn't let go. I tried fending him off by whacking him over the head repeatedly with my briefcase. We struggled for what seemed like hours, but was probably no more than 1 or 2 minutes. He ended the confrontation by threatening to shoot me and making a reach-for-a-gun motion. I never actually saw his gun, but I decided to take him seriously and gave up the purse.
In the aftermath, it never occurred to me to wish I had a gun. The thought never entered my mind. I remember wishing i could scratch his eyes out, pummel him with my fists, kick him in the ... ankle, and do all sorts of bodily harm to him if I could get my hands on him. Good thing i never did - he would have flattened me lol.
It worked well for us. Now that I have decided for myself that I do like guns, my son is now my shooting/rkba/gun mentor.
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I'm afraid I have to disagree. It might work for some, but it's no guarantee.
Back in the dark ages, when I was semi-anti-gun, I had my purse snatched. Guy grabbed it; I didn't let go. I tried fending him off by whacking him over the head repeatedly with my briefcase. We struggled for what seemed like hours, but was probably no more than 1 or 2 minutes. He ended the confrontation by threatening to shoot me and making a reach-for-a-gun motion. I never actually saw his gun, but I decided to take him seriously and gave up the purse.
In the aftermath, it never occurred to me to wish I had a gun. The thought never entered my mind. I remember wishing i could scratch his eyes out, pummel him with my fists, kick him in the ... ankle, and do all sorts of bodily harm to him if I could get my hands on him. Good thing i never did - he would have flattened me lol.
noskilz
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Graduate. Get a job. Move out. Honor your mother. Problem solved.
mljdeckard
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People for whom emotion is the primary factor in their decision making process will not listen to reason. They must be exposed to an emotion stronger then the one making them hate guns in the first place.
SCKimberFan
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Just remember, if Momma ain't happy, ain't nobody happy!
Cpt. America
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Believe it or not wad cutters make a good defensive round. http://www.handgunsmag.com/ammunition/HG_wickedwadcutters_200901/index.html . Its an intresting article.
KarenTOC
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JH225 said:
Sure. First of all, I was anti-gun but never rabidly anti-rkba. I didn't want guns in my house, and didn't understand the attraction some folks had to carrying one. I could never see that there was any civilian use for guns other than hunting. I mean, guns are for killing, and the only thing you can legally kill is food, right? So what's the point in having guns if you don't hunt? I was also deeply afraid of guns, but some years ago I realized that training would neutralize the fear. At that point the fear was replaced by apathy and disinterest.
My conversion was accidental, but I must have been open to it. About a year ago my son suggested that I take his late grandfather's S&W 642 for myself. I took it to please my son with no intention of doing anything with it but stuffing it in a drawer. A coworker offered to take me to the range, so I went out of curiosity. He brought his own Model 34, and we spent an hour at the range, where I discovered I loved shooting his 34, but hated the 642 lol.
My son offered to trade the 642 for my late husband's Model 10-5 snubbie (I love it). Over the course of past year, handguns, rifles, and shotguns kept turning up at my father-in-law's house. The heirs took a bunch of them, and the ones they didn't want came to me - a total of 5 handguns.
Anyway, one trip to the range got me interested in shooting. Since then, I've been doing some research, reading what I can about it, and talking to anyone that knows anything about the subject. I joined the NRA, a range, and this forum, read a book and subscribed to a magazine, and have even bought a few guns myself. I'm beginning to understand why it's important not only to have the right to keep and bear arms, but to exercise the right.
My son loves talking guns with me
flying_gage
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Blackbeard, you are correct. I explained to her actions could earn her a felony... She has seen a fair amount of life and has her own opinions. She appears to understand the consequences of her actions and accepts them.
Let me state that I do not condone her actions. But, I don't worry about her safety too much. Someone messing with her would be in for a bad surprise.
Let me state that I do not condone her actions. But, I don't worry about her safety too much. Someone messing with her would be in for a bad surprise.
Zombie_Flesh
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my mom was mildly anti-gun, and was very tolerant my and my father's hobby.
Then one day there was a execution style double murder 1.6 miles away (this is a farming community) and she asked me to help her get her CCW.
Then one day there was a execution style double murder 1.6 miles away (this is a farming community) and she asked me to help her get her CCW.
In mom vs. son, she's Russia, you're Poland. Not much you can do to change that dynamic. I can't tell my mom a @#$%! thing either. Best to back off and find a way for her to "discover it" and think it's her idea. My mom never wanted a gun around until someone threw a brick thru her window. Then she bought one of mine.
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Mom will be Mom. You cannot change it.
Now if someone bad was to break in and harm the family, stand back!
Mine is long gone. As far as she was concerned NO. GUNS. Period.
She's enjoyed a good safe life, lucky her. RIP.
When you are of age and living under your own roof, make your own informed decisions and act upon them with resolute conviction.
Now if someone bad was to break in and harm the family, stand back!
Mine is long gone. As far as she was concerned NO. GUNS. Period.
She's enjoyed a good safe life, lucky her. RIP.
When you are of age and living under your own roof, make your own informed decisions and act upon them with resolute conviction.
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