New Mexico Ski Resorts and CCW?

[UpTheIrons]

Perhaps my search-fu stinketh, but I can't find anything on this subject here, nor on the inter-webs.

I looked at handgunlaw.us, and they have a pretty good listing of what is and is not legal. State parks are off-limits, but I'm not sure if ski areas count as public lands, state parks, or private property. We're most likely heading to Angel Fire for spring break, and I'm curious if anyone has a solid answer as to the legality of CC on the ski resort property. I'd rather not leave my gun locked in the car all day while we're on the slopes.

Should I just call the NM DPS for an answer? What about a NM CCW school?

 

[UpTheIrons]

Thanks! I'll call them tomorrow.

I talked to a guy at Taos Tactical today, and he filled in some of the blanks, too. He said "most" of the ski areas in NM are National Forest, but didn't have a definitive answer on Angel Fire.

As far as NFs go, I found this at the US Forest Service website:
(PDF link available at: http://tinyurl.com/yzufgvb)

Laws Regarding Firearms on National Forest Lands

First, the primary laws governing possession of firearms and other weapons on National Forest are State Laws. These laws were developed by the states following establishment of our Cooperative Wildlife Management Agreements. Most notable of the state laws concerns controlling firearms on the National Forest are “cased gun laws”.

Cased Gun Laws: As the name implies, this law requires that all firearms on National Forest be unloaded and kept in a case. Virginia and West Virginia have similar “cased gun laws”. In order to allow hunting, these laws make an exception.

• It is legal to have loaded firearms on National Forest during the authorized
general firearms and muzzle loading gun seasons for bear, deer, grouse, pheasant, quail, rabbit, raccoon, squirrel, turkey, or waterfowl. This exception is very specific and applies only during the period when it is legal to take these listed species and doesn’t include carrying the loaded weapons in a vehicle.

• Because hunting on Sunday is prohibited, carrying a loaded gun on National Forest is not legal on Sunday even if it is the Sunday in the middle of the general firearms deer season.

• The second exception to this law allows people with a concealed weapon permit to carry a loaded, concealed, handgun either on their person or in their vehicle while on National Forest. This does not apply if the person is engaged in a primitive weapons season or chase only season.

• People muzzle loading or bow hunting may carry a concealed weapon as long as they possess a concealed weapon permit.

It looks like I may just have to find a snow-proof holster!

 

[Frog48]

Falling down while skiing hurts enough as it is, without landing on a pistol.

 

[Blackbeard]

+1 to Grant. Unless you want a pistol-shaped bruise on your hip, I'd leave it in the cabin. I'm pretty confident no one else on the slope will be armed either.

 

[44Dave]

Hunting on Sunday is illegal? What's the reasoning for that?

 

[Jorg Nysgerrig]

Hunting on Sunday is illegal? What's the reasoning for that?

You can thank our Puritan heritage.

That said, the guidelines posted would mostly likely only apply to West Virginia (and perhaps Virginia). Notice where it says, "First, the primary laws governing possession of firearms and other weapons on National Forest are State Laws." Therefore, the laws regarding firearms in West Virginia National Forest areas are likely to be substantially different than those in some other states.

 

[UpTheIrons]

+1 to Grant. Unless you want a pistol-shaped bruise on your hip, I'd leave it in the cabin. I'm pretty confident no one else on the slope will be armed either.

Haven't you ever watched a James Bond movie?!?

My reason for keeping it on me was that I didn't want to leave it 'unsecured' anywhere. I'm not sure yet where we will be staying, and I'd hate to leave it in the car all day because the lodge/condo/cabin/whatever is posted. I know it can get stolen from a car just as easily as from a cabin, but it is a lot harder for anyone to get it from me. Since this will be during Spring Break, there's always the 5.11 holster shirts, which (Darn it!), would require me to go out and buy a pistol that would fit in it.

Besides, I don't fall when I ski!

 

[NMPOPS]

I would check with NM DPS. The link you put up was for the Monongahela National Forest which is not in NM. As far as I know New Mexico does not have these restrictions (Cibola, Santa Fe, Carson National Forests) No cased gun laws. Your car is an extension of your home so you can have a loaded gun in the car.

 

[model of 1905]

IANAL but if you dont conceal carry where they sell alcohol for onsite consumption, its not a school or federal bldg and you have a permit, no worries. Even better just open carry but if you do, you cant OC in a store/restaurant that sells alcohol period (whether for onsite or offsite consumption).

 

[NMGonzo]

I would check with NM DPS. The link you put up was for the Monongahela National Forest which is not in NM. As far as I know New Mexico does not have these restrictions (Cibola, Santa Fe, Carson National Forests) No cased gun laws. Your car is an extension of your home so you can have a loaded gun in the car.

Yup!