New Wildcat .22 LR Rifle

[someguy2800]

Both good points.....but again....why take the chance on an unknown animal.....It reminds me of the question I brought up in the pistol rifle thread....why not a 9 or 45 lever.....the answer is why bother. It seems to me that this is a why bother.

I see it not as different....still the "guts" of a 1022.....we will just need to see.....I don't see it as special enough to make it stand out....hope I am wrong I would like to see new product take off....but what is new here?

The only thing I see in common with a 10/22 is the magazine. Everything else looks completely different.

 

[midland man]

I hope I can find a marlin model 81dl I bet those are hard to find in very good condition as I want one!

 

[someguy2800]

I am not hating on this thing.....I am also not taking it in a dark room to do some lovin on it like some here seem to be.

What does this bring to the table that other things do not bring to the table already....and more better....you want to hang all kinds of stuffs off of it.....any of your AR 22's will likely fit the bill....and likely you already own it.....or perhaps one of the rugers you already own will fit the bill.....or that old stock you have for that one 1022 build that is hiding behind your pinball machine (that is where mine is)....dig it out and bingo....all kinds of places to hang stuff.

I get need has zippo to do with it....being someone that just bought 4 new guns today (wife is going to kill me....this may be my last post....and no cheering) I totally get need has nothing to do with it.....but there has to be something that says to a guy that is sitting on 3 automatic 22's or the guy that is looking for his first 22 rifle.....that thing is going to have to say HAY....LOOK AT ME....AIN'T I ____________ cool, accurate, cheap, aftermarket support, like dear ole dad had.....something. I could see a "new" 1903....or to the other end something really off in left field....but this is pretty middle of the road....pretty safe....and really does not (to me) say.....HAY BUY ME INSTEAD OF ___________.

Personally I would take a 1022.....and you know how I feel about that platform....over this.

Here is a good video that shows some of the design features. This has absolutely nothing in common with a 10-22 besides for the magazine.

 

[OrangeCat]

I thought you could also remove the tension from the magazines that go with the rifle to make it easier to reaload.

It honestly seems like a 10/22 competitor with a number of quality of life improvements I was looking forward to seeing one but bought a Savage '64 to have a .22 rifle.

I might take another look when they finally release.

 

[midland man]

Here is a good video that shows some of the design features. This has absolutely nothing in common with a 10-22 besides for the magazine.

well after seeing this video now there goes my billfold lol! I want one of these too!

 

[GunnyUSMC]

I am not hating on this thing.....I am also not taking it in a dark room to do some lovin on it like some here seem to be.

What does this bring to the table that other things do not bring to the table already....and more better....you want to hang all kinds of stuffs off of it.....any of your AR 22's will likely fit the bill....and likely you already own it.....or perhaps one of the rugers you already own will fit the bill.....or that old stock you have for that one 1022 build that is hiding behind your pinball machine (that is where mine is)....dig it out and bingo....all kinds of places to hang stuff.

I get need has zippo to do with it....being someone that just bought 4 new guns today (wife is going to kill me....this may be my last post....and no cheering) I totally get need has nothing to do with it.....but there has to be something that says to a guy that is sitting on 3 automatic 22's or the guy that is looking for his first 22 rifle.....that thing is going to have to say HAY....LOOK AT ME....AIN'T I ____________ cool, accurate, cheap, aftermarket support, like dear ole dad had.....something. I could see a "new" 1903....or to the other end something really off in left field....but this is pretty middle of the road....pretty safe....and really does not (to me) say.....HAY BUY ME INSTEAD OF ___________.

Personally I would take a 1022.....and you know how I feel about that platform....over this.

Some people can’t see the forest because the trees are in the way, and there are those that think they can see with their eyes wide shut.
What does it have in common with the 10/22 other then being a semiautomatic 22? It can use popular 10/22 mags that can be found just about anywhere, even in my gun safe.
What does it offer that the 10/22 doesn’t? Let’s see.
Easy take down for cleaning.
Barrel can be cleaned from the chamber.
Easy access mag release.
Front rail section for adding a light or bipod.
Last round hold open.
Better sights.
Intergraded picatinny rail. I had to pay $22 to put one on one of my 10/22s.

I have six 10/22s and like them very much, but that doesn’t mean that I can’t like something new that offers some features that I wish came on a 10/22.
I don’t think I have seen anyone posting about loving on the Wildcat, as you said. There have been some that have said that they would like to buy one, and others that have said that they like what they see.

And no one has said anything thing about hanging a bunch of stuff on one, other the someone talking about they could put a light on it for getting rid of pest.
There are those that will not buy something new that just hits the market. They would rather wait to see how it does first. There is nothing wrong with that, but there is also nothing wrong with wanting to get something new to see how it will do.
I’m thinking about picking one of these up and taking my grandson shooting. If he likes it, I’ll give it to him. I also plan to give him one of my 10/22s in the near future.

 

[Jeb Stuart]

Lol, I see so many Ruger fans trying to compare it to the 10/22, hello, it is not a 10/22 and this may come as a surprise, not everyone owns one. What is so interesting is the fact that so many Ruger fans say they will wait, but rushed out to buy the Wrangler. (which by the way the local LGS cannot keep in stock). Yes, I have a number of 22.cal rifles but just do not need one right now. Especially since I will be picking up another Backpack Shotgun and ordered the 22.cal insert.
But so far, I am impressed with what I see. Bravo to Winchester. I bet it sells like hotcakes.

 

[sparkyv]

read about them a few months ago, haven't actually seen one tho. Honestly it looks like it's got some really neat features, but isn't something IM interested in.

I'm kinda a 22 junkie, so I gotta ask!

Looks like a nice design with some innovation. We live in the golden age of firearms.

Amen to that!

I checked with my local gun shop yesterday and it appears that they are not available yet, but should sell for around $240.
Here are the things I like about the rifle.
It looks good.
Built in sling mounts.
Easy mag release.
Last round hold open with factory mag.
Easy bolt release.
East and quick take down.
Can clean barrel from the chamber end without having to remove the barrel.
Will that 10/22 mags.
Metal sights.
Scope rail on top and a rail section at front of stock.
I think Winchester has a winner with this little rifle.
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$240? Seems a little pricy to me, but I do like these features, especially the peep sights. We'll see...I don't think I'll be an early adopter.

I have yet to see one.

lets just chill on the complaints until "we" get one in hand shall we?
kBob

Agreed.

 

[chicharrones]

Does anyone know who makes this for Winchester?

I'm thinking of the older Wildcat bolt action repeater that was a Russian built gun, which makes me wonder if Winchester makes the new Wildcat or if someone else does the work?

EDIT: From the barrel roll marks it's made by Istanbul Silah in Turkey and imported by BACO (Browning Arms Co.) in Morgan, Utah.

Download a hi-res photo at the Winchester website to see. http://www.winchesterguns.com/products/rifles/Wildcat-22/Wildcat-22-Current-Products/wildcat-22.html

 

[someguy2800]

Does anyone know who makes this for Winchester?

I'm thinking of the older Wildcat bolt action repeater that was a Russian built gun, which makes me wonder if Winchester makes the new Wildcat or if someone else does the work?

EDIT: From the barrel roll marks it's made by Istanbul Silah in Turkey and imported by BACO (Browning Arms Co.) in Morgan, Utah.

Download a hi-res photo at the Winchester website to see. http://www.winchesterguns.com/products/rifles/Wildcat-22/Wildcat-22-Current-Products/wildcat-22.html

Well that explains the relatively cheap price

 

[GunnyUSMC]

I’m a bit of a 22 junkie myself.
I can’t get all my 22’s into one safe, but here’s most of them.
I only have six Winchesters right now. Maybe the Wildcat will get me to seven.
One can never have enough 22’s.

 

[midland man]

variety is the spice of life

 

[Walkalong]

I shot a lot of Winchester Wildcat .2 LR ammo when I was a kid, great stuff, but I see you meant a new rifle.

 

[LoonWulf]

uggghhhh I'm probably gonna have to try one of these....after I pay for the other things I wanna try.....

 

[troy fairweather]

I like it other then the looks of the grip,

 

[LoonWulf]

I like it other then the looks of the grip,

yeah the aft end is really all that turns me away, tho it's probably a very good choice to shooters with smaller hands. ya know, if this thing carried a similar system to the Ruger American RF, or savages new adjustable stocks, I'd HAVE to get one.

 

[DocRock]

Having recently rediscovered the joys of shooting 22lr, I'm so for a new entry. Far better a new rifle in ye olde .22 than yet another "new" wonder cartridge that does the exact same thing as some 100 year old cartridge but does it "even better" in a brand new $2500 rifle.

Ok, enough curmudgeon for the night...

 

[troy fairweather]

yeah the aft end is really all that turns me away, tho it's probably a very good choice to shooters with smaller hands. ya know, if this thing carried a similar system to the Ruger American RF, or savages new adjustable stocks, I'd HAVE to get one.

I am would think it's comfortable but is like thumb hole stocks they feel good but I think there ugly to. The Wildcats grip looks like the magpul hunters. The only thing I don't like about them.

 

[Speedo66]

The name Wildcat is an unfortunate reminder of some poor quality ammo, probably isn't doing them any good in that sense, at least to me.




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[JT-AR-MG42]

I’m thinking about picking one of these up and taking my grandson shooting. If he likes it,

Makes me hope Winchester will make an adjustable stock version (ala the '64 pattern FAL stock)
with removable spacers for youngsters to grow into.

It pains me as an RO to see kids having to shoot a rifle with their arms almost fully extended
and with 12" of scope eye relief. Not a recipe for a successful outing!

JT

 

[GunnyUSMC]

Makes me hope Winchester will make an adjustable stock version (ala the '64 pattern FAL stock)
with removable spacers for youngsters to grow into.

It pains me as an RO to see kids having to shoot a rifle with their arms almost fully extended
and with 12" of scope eye relief. Not a recipe for a successful outing!

JT

I bought my grandson a Crickett youth rifle a few years ago and he's starting to out grow it now. It's time to move up. May even get a red dot sight for it.

 

[fpgt72]

Some people can’t see the forest because the trees are in the way, and there are those that think they can see with their eyes wide shut.
What does it have in common with the 10/22 other then being a semiautomatic 22? It can use popular 10/22 mags that can be found just about anywhere, even in my gun safe.
What does it offer that the 10/22 doesn’t? Let’s see.
Easy take down for cleaning.
Barrel can be cleaned from the chamber.
Easy access mag release.
Front rail section for adding a light or bipod.
Last round hold open.
Better sights.
Intergraded picatinny rail. I had to pay $22 to put one on one of my 10/22s.

I have six 10/22s and like them very much, but that doesn’t mean that I can’t like something new that offers some features that I wish came on a 10/22.
I don’t think I have seen anyone posting about loving on the Wildcat, as you said. There have been some that have said that they would like to buy one, and others that have said that they like what they see.

And no one has said anything thing about hanging a bunch of stuff on one, other the someone talking about they could put a light on it for getting rid of pest.
There are those that will not buy something new that just hits the market. They would rather wait to see how it does first. There is nothing wrong with that, but there is also nothing wrong with wanting to get something new to see how it will do.
I’m thinking about picking one of these up and taking my grandson shooting. If he likes it, I’ll give it to him. I also plan to give him one of my 10/22s in the near future.

And every single one of your points can be had with the 10/22 and likely one already in your safe.

 

[fpgt72]

Look guys I could really care less, and future sales will be the only thing worth looking at. Lets hop back in say a years time.....provided I am still on this rock...and we will see just how well it has done in its first year.

 

[fpgt72]

I bought my grandson a Crickett youth rifle a few years ago and he's starting to out grow it now. It's time to move up. May even get a red dot sight for it.

My boy was/is pretty small....we jumped from pellet to "full sized" at around 8years or so.....might have been 7-ish.

He shot basically whatever he wanted out of the current stable....for 22's he drifted to bolt guns....never really liked the nylon66 as he said it felt BB gun like. (he is short but built like a little fire plug, and about as hard headed as one) "his" first was a winchester 190 that was pretty new at the time.....no grand kids for me yet....his girl is in med school now so hopefully that will hold off for a while, they have tons of time.

A few weeks ago the two of them came out and we shot hand guns.....it was the best time I have had in weeks.

 

[Walkalong]

He shot basically whatever he wanted out of the current stable.

You should have seen me hoisting up a Marlin 39A in my youth and shooting it. Yea, it was heavy for me, but I did it. I agree, kids outgrow the small "youth" guns pretty quickly. That doesn't mean they are not useful though, they are.