RX-178
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I will note that their FB page is back up, at least at this moment.
NRA Removes Facebook Page
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lobo9er
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phatty already answered checkman
Beside email/letters/phone calls theres not much else to do.
Our system of legislators,senators,congressman, and everyone else, IMO keeps us out of the conversation we don't vote for anything, and the ones we vote in are not guaranteed to help us out. Electoral college decided who the president was we just go through ceremony because it makes us feel like our opinion matters. We can say "I didn't (or did) vote for him". when in reality it wouldn't have mattered if everyone skipped the polls all together.
Beside email/letters/phone calls theres not much else to do.
Our system of legislators,senators,congressman, and everyone else, IMO keeps us out of the conversation we don't vote for anything, and the ones we vote in are not guaranteed to help us out. Electoral college decided who the president was we just go through ceremony because it makes us feel like our opinion matters. We can say "I didn't (or did) vote for him". when in reality it wouldn't have mattered if everyone skipped the polls all together.
It's back.
And the comments trolls are predictably making an appearance.
4600 comments on the most recent post by the NRA:
"Donald Murphy please support ban on high capacity magazines ....in addition, our society needs to take a hard look at how the mentally ill have been neglected for centuries here"
"Rajesh Kumar Time for the 2nd amendment to be repealed!"
"Dorothea Braemer 61 mass shootings since Columbine. More mass shootings than any other country on earth. Apparently the right to own a gun is more important than another person's right to live."
"Sandra South I would like a new gun law that says: Any applicant for a gun permit must self-pay for a psycological evaluation before the permit is issued."
Etc.. etc.. never ending supply of those.
And the comments trolls are predictably making an appearance.
4600 comments on the most recent post by the NRA:
"Donald Murphy please support ban on high capacity magazines ....in addition, our society needs to take a hard look at how the mentally ill have been neglected for centuries here"
"Rajesh Kumar Time for the 2nd amendment to be repealed!"
"Dorothea Braemer 61 mass shootings since Columbine. More mass shootings than any other country on earth. Apparently the right to own a gun is more important than another person's right to live."
"Sandra South I would like a new gun law that says: Any applicant for a gun permit must self-pay for a psycological evaluation before the permit is issued."
Etc.. etc.. never ending supply of those.
Sure thing there Rajesh, right after we suspend the 1st because I'm sure you'll agree that all this free speech on the internet just isn't necessary and it's upsetting at best.
Then it's on to that pesky 4th, we'll vaporize it due to the new nightly searches of your hardrive. We'll need access to your passwords of course, but you being a good citizen and all...
Rajesh?
hey Rajesh.............?
lobo9er
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you guys have no idea lol I had to self pay to be evaluated by a psychologist because of a marijane ticket I got in my youth, which was dropped in court, in order to obtain my CCW. UK isn't far off. If you think that what I was accused of was "serious" just remember you all have and or will do something that a a court could consider a reason to re-evaluate you and your right to 'bears arms.
Oh man I have no doubt of this.
I actually have a "disobedience to police" conviction from when I was 18 that still on my record. Just a misdemeanor, gave a cop a bloody nose. Was dropped from "resisting arrest" and "assaulting an officer" because I tripped and fell on their night-sticks about 8 dozen times.
States Attorney was worried about an excessive force counter-charge so cut me loose with a $100 fine and notice to appear, I plead no contest to the misdemeanor.
lobo9er
I understand that cynical attitude. I often find myself thinking that way as well. But what is the alternative? Civil War? Call 911 and start shooting at the cops when they arrive? Retreat to the basement bunker and wait for the black helicopters? I'm 44 and I often have a cynical attitude, but I'm not that far gone yet.
I understand that cynical attitude. I often find myself thinking that way as well. But what is the alternative? Civil War? Call 911 and start shooting at the cops when they arrive? Retreat to the basement bunker and wait for the black helicopters? I'm 44 and I often have a cynical attitude, but I'm not that far gone yet.
lobo9er
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checkman thats not cynical attitude what I said is fact. which part isn't? the electorate decides the president. we vote in politicians that are never guaranteed to do what we voted them into to do. which part of that is just bad attitude? I have written emails and support GOA. I could stand in front of a building with a sign but I have to go to work in 20min. what are you proposing that we all do beyond that?
Okay I see what you're saying. You are doing what you can as am I. But you didn't describe what you were doing and it sounded cyncial as if you were saying what's the point we can't have any effect anyway. Now I see what you're saying. So I apologize and no hard feelings.
Phatty
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Just to clarify, the section of the Constitution you quoted does not prevent Congress from criminalizing existing weapons. What that provision does is prevent Congress from passing a law saying that the possession of an assault weapon last year is a crime and then prosecuting you for possessing that weapon in the past even though it was not a crime at the time you possessed it.
Putting aside the 2A, there is no issue with Congress criminalizing the possession of existing weapons going forward.
By the way, the criminalization of existing property happens all the time. Most of the time, though, it involves a new unregulated drug that pops up on the market, gets popular and causes a scare, and then the government decides to regulate it. If you happened to have a nice big stash of anabolic steriods in 1990 when they were classified as a Schedule III drug in the United States, you were out of luck; you didn't get to keep them just because you had them before the law passed.
lobo9er
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checkman we are same team and I never thought other wise. Its tough having conversations like via messages boards and its hard to gauge each others demeanor. I apologize for directing my response towards you.
No need to apologize. THR is a good place for folks to air their differences and work out compromises - or solutions. that's why I've continued to post here after nine years. There was a time a few years ago when we were hi-jacked by a small group of hard core reactionaries. They spent all their time attacking everybody and spreading some real hate and discontent. It got so heated that I took a break for a couple of years, but about a year ago I came back and discovered that THR has returned to it's roots. I don't have any problem with disagreements. We aren't cookie cutter people.
ilbob, neither side is in this. The hoplophobic are just throwing the word debate out there, but they really don't want one. They want to be able to shout any one else down in a attempt to make any of their demands sound reasonable.
Debate and compromise would very much mean the hoplophobic are giving something up as well.
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Anyone know if the NRA press conference will be available to watch online from the UK?
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