NY Banning AW possession under 21?

[wcwhitey]

The price for privately owned rifles is about to skyrocket. No transfer needed to sell a rifle privately in NY. People are gonna charge quadruple the worth of their rifles and sell them to those under 21 who will be affected. The rifles will still be out there so no difference.

The troubling thing is it includes ALL semi auto rifles. They’ve been saying for years they just want the “assault weapons”. They’re coming for the Ruger 10/22’s as well.

Unless it’s immediate family NY has required FFL transfer of all rifles and pistols under the SAFE ACT a while ago. It’s hard to even type SAFE ACt without getting nauseous.

 

[Homerboy]

Unless it’s immediate family NY has required FFL transfer of all rifles and pistols under the SAFE ACT a while ago. It’s hard to even type SAFE ACt without getting nauseous.

Unless it’s immediate family NY has required FFL transfer of all rifles and pistols under the SAFE ACT a while ago. It’s hard to even type SAFE ACt without getting nauseous.

Didn’t know that. I’m sure the residents of NY feel so much safer now.

 

[Shanvanvocht]

So glad to live in the Land of the Free

 

[toivo]

Not sure what you mean by this but face to face sales in NY are illegal. ALL firearm transfers are suppose to go through a FFL. Now if your selling to a relative or good friend thats up to you.

Transfers between immediate family members -- spouses, siblings, parent/child -- are exempt from background checks in NY.

 

[Frank Ettin]

Transfers between immediate family members -- spouses, siblings, parent/child -- are exempt from background checks in NY.

What exactly does the applicable statute or statutes say? Exactly how does New York law define “immediate family” for this purpose? I’ve seen various definitions under the statutes of various States.

 

[toivo]

What exactly does the applicable statute or statutes say? Exactly how does New York law define “immediate family” for this purpose? I’ve seen various definitions under the statutes of various States.

Here's the text from the law:

§ 898. Private sale or disposal of firearms, rifles and shotguns. 1.
In addition to any other requirements pursuant to state and federal law,
all sales, exchanges or disposals of firearms, rifles or shotguns shall
be conducted in accordance with this section unless such sale, exchange
or disposal is conducted by a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer
or licensed dealer, as those terms are defined in 18 USC § 922, when
such sale, exchange or disposal is conducted pursuant to that person's
federal firearms license or such sale, exchange or disposal is between
members of an immediate family.
[...]
For purposes of this section, "immediate
family" shall mean spouses, domestic partners, children and
step-children.​

I don't see anything about siblings in there -- that may be a gray area.​

 

[Frank Ettin]

Here's the text from the law:

§ 898. Private sale or disposal of firearms, rifles and shotguns. 1.
In addition to any other requirements pursuant to state and federal law,
all sales, exchanges or disposals of firearms, rifles or shotguns shall
be conducted in accordance with this section unless such sale, exchange
or disposal is conducted by a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer
or licensed dealer, as those terms are defined in 18 USC § 922, when
such sale, exchange or disposal is conducted pursuant to that person's
federal firearms license or such sale, exchange or disposal is between
members of an immediate family.
[...]
For purposes of this section, "immediate
family" shall mean spouses, domestic partners, children and
step-children.​

I don't see anything about siblings in there -- that may be a gray area.​

Good, thank you. So in New York “immediate family” includes step-children and domestic partners, but not siblings.

Just to illustrate state differences, in California “immediate family” for the purposes of a firearms transfer is only parent/grandparent and child/grandchild.