Odd Handgun Designs (What the heck is this thing?)

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Zaydok Allen

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Hey all,

I've been meaning to post these pics for a while now, and always seem to forget. Every now and then I see a picture of an odd or archaic handgun design. Sometimes they aren't even an odd design, so much as odd looking. I thought a thread dedicated to weird guns might be kind of fun.

I saw this picture on a social media thread discussing all the strange things that various Russian police agencies have confiscated and still have in impound. Anyone know what this thing is?

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Next up is a combo of guns. I attended a gun show about two years ago and an older and very hard of hearing vendor had these guns on display. The top is a 38 Special carbine that had an odd bolt loading system on top of the rifle. I'll confess I don't recall how it worked exactly.

More interesting to me are the bottom two revolvers. The one on the left is a single action 38 special, as is the one on the right. The obvious difference is that the one on the right could almost be considered a belt fed design. It held 20 shots I believe. All three guns are custom built with very few examples in existence. I do know who designed and built them, but I'm not going to share that info, as the individual is working out of an in home shop, and I doubt he would appreciate his personal contact info being spread around the internet. So if you happen to know who designed and built these guns, please keep that info to yourself.


Share your pics of odd guns. Lets make this one fun.
 
I find all of them quite fascinating, as I have never seen anything quite like them. Thanks for sharing!
 
The Russian R-92 is one of several designs that came out that design bureau. The design is certainly different but seems to offer no real advantages over more conventional revolvers. The other pictures are of some home experimental gun. Similar guns are shown in Lewis Winant's classic Firearms Curiosa. All were interesting but unsuccessful.

Jim
 
The Russian R-92 is one of several designs that came out that design bureau. The design is certainly different but seems to offer no real advantages over more conventional revolvers. The other pictures are of some home experimental gun. Similar guns are shown in Lewis Winant's classic Firearms Curiosa. All were interesting but unsuccessful.

Jim
I would like to know more about the later picture. Do you know the name of the gun or designer?
 
Ok - Here's an odd-ball one of mine that might make you smile, it's a .32 five shot muzzle loader. (Zylab Patriot)

As you may know, around 15 years ago almost all handguns were banned in the UK, however we were still allowed to use muzzle loaders. At the time of the ban I was a keen pistol shooter, mainly concentrating on UIT Olympic style precision shooting and as you can imagine I was very bitter to see my beautiful .32 Pardini and other competition pistols melted down to make paperweights.

The international centrefire match comprises of 60 shots for a total of 600 points. the first stage is six strings of five shots, slow fire, six minutes for each string. The second stage is Duelling. Turning targets face for three seconds and turn away for seven seconds. Pistols must be lowered to 45 degrees between each shot, again six strings of five shots each.

All of this is shot at 25 metres one handed, unsupported with open iron sights with 2 1/4 lb trigger.

Over the years there have been several attempts to work round the ban and still compete in International competition, mostly standard revolvers converted to only take a muzzle loading cylinder. They work ok but not competitive when shooting against specialised target pistols like Walther, Pardini, Hammerli etc.

So - this is why my pistol was designed and manufactured. It complies with all the international regulations, size, weight, trigger, sights etc. but also complies with our cranky laws by being classed as a muzzle loader.

It is basically a "harmonica" gun. It has a five chamber block that is preloaded off the pistol taking standard pistol primers, nitro powder and shooting a .32 calibre 98 grain full wadcutter bullet. It's not a semi-auto but needs to be racked for every shot, but as you have seven seconds to do it, it's not a problem.

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I would like to know more about the later picture. Do you know the name of the gun or designer?
Sorry, I've been meaning to up date, but I've been busy.

I said in my original post
"More interesting to me are the bottom two revolvers. The one on the left is a single action 38 special, as is the one on the right. The obvious difference is that the one on the right could almost be considered a belt fed design. It held 20 shots I believe. All three guns are custom built with very few examples in existence. I do know who designed and built them, but I'm not going to share that info, as the individual is working out of an in home shop, and I doubt he would appreciate his personal contact info being spread around the internet. So if you happen to know who designed and built these guns, please keep that info to yourself."

I think I was worrying too much as simply Googling his name brings up another one of his designs. His name is George Tibert. He designs guns, builds guns, and apparently what ever else peaks his interest at the time. I believe he just does it as a hobby that pays. The Vendor I spoke to told me he paid $5000 for the rifle, and less for the revolvers. I'd happily pay him $5000 for one of the revolvers to be in my collection. I especially like the one on the left. He was nice enough to let me hold it and work the action. It was very smooth.
 
Yep that is a Tibert design but it's not the one I looked at. I'm kicking myself for not getting a better pic of all of those guns.

That vendor shows up regularly at our gunshows so I'll try and get a better picture in the future.
 
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