Penn and Teller - Bullet Catching

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I got to go onstage and help them with this trick about 8-10 years ago.

I still have the casing and the bullet that Teller spat into my hand. Both freshly fired, and both with the marks that I put on them with a sharpy.

Great trick. Nice guys, too.
 
Went to the show at the Rio May 1, and went up on stage for the finale.
1. Found out that Teller DOES SPEAK, he's just not wired for sound like Penn is.
2. Thought the round selected from the ammunition wallet was a touch light, and the bullet was overly ovoid(custom hand-load?).
3. Nice choice of Colt Pythons for the effect (could have gone with S&W or any other in .357 with the same effect, but the ventilated barrel rib is impressive).
4. The glass sheets looked to be on the thin side, but did not shatter into little bits, but left the hole for inspection.

Like I told people later, it's all real, hardware and all, but the physics have been toned down for the auditorium (at the range, a .357 Mag is LOUD, and this sounded like a .38 Special). This effect (it's no trick) must be rough on the dental work.
 
Not long got through with a conversation with a friend who swears up and down that it is an illusion and that there is no way they actually catch a bullet.
His reasonings are:
The time frame is too short for him to catch the bullet.
They have credited Harry Houdini's original bullet catch and based their performance on his, and thus is fake because Houdini's was fake.
He also knows how Houdini did it because he himself is into the magician-y stuff.
 
He also knows how Houdini did it because he himself is into the magician-y stuff.

Its not really a secret since its such a famouse trick that has been reproduced so many times. If you *really* want to know how its done, the method is published on the 'net, including Penn and Teller's variation. I wont put up a link because i think its better not to look into these things too hard, but its an easy bit of googleing. I have to caution you though that you *will* be dissapointed. Even though im sure everyone knows that its just a "trick", not knowing how its done is what makes it so much fun. Invarioubly when you pull the curtain asside you are more saddened than pleased with the results. People feel like they want to know because its part of basic human curiosity, but really what they want to hear is "it's magic", or at least that it is so complicated that it might as well be. These things arent really hard, the difficult part of "magic" is the showmanship, which Penn and Teller have in spades. Do yourself a favor and dont bother figuring it out.
 
The idea that they shoot low powered loads is total BS. I have been to their show two times and its done well and I don't know exactly how they do it. But one thing is for sure as when I went to Copperfield's show, no one can walk through solid objects and no one can catch a bullet in their mouth even a low powered one with out a high risk of getting hurt. I am positive that every thing they do is calculated so that no possible risk is present. I know the bullet that they shoot is most likely not the same one they spit into the hand of the person who drew on it. If the trick was to shoot a real bullet through the glass and really catch it going slow they would have missed at some point. The bullet that was written on has to either be passed to them and a different load put into the gun or my personal fav. explanation they have cameras at all angles or that can be focused and moved without anyone knowing below on the bullet as it is written on. No one could tell that if Simone behind the scenes was waiting with a bullet to make the exact marks and pass it to the two to palm into the mouth. I am also sure that although people are brought in that every move they make is set up so they can not deviate from the plan. If the bullet in the gun vaporizes on impact of the glass or the lasers are set far enough off to have what is left of the wax go by them or if some other way of breaking the glass is used. I know its impressive because we do not know exactly how its done, its not impressive because they are actually doing something dangerous. I am sure there is no danger involved. If we knew the illusion would be gone and it would be a yawner. Copperfield does not disappear and reappear and run down the beach of some island in the Caribbean and come back to the desert in Nevada. Its not possible so its not worth trying to figure it out from that angle. Remove the impossible and deal with what is left. Its not possible for them to shoot each other with real bullets and catch them in their mouth. Penn admitted this on stage when I was there, he said if you see me on the street remember this is an illusion and don't whip out a real gun and shoot at me. They do not catch bullets with reduced loads, not possible to do without risk of real harm and there is no risk of harm only the illusion of real harm. So what is left is some combination of wax bullets and cameras and copied marks on bullets or some other combination to make it look real.
 
Seen their show in Vegas. Good show. Also like their Bull%$*&! show on Showtime or on DVD.

part 1 on their Take on Gun Control. Funny but not safe for work, some swearing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCXtfR0_roE

Don't forget to support them and buy the DVD. Wouldn't want to break any copyright laws now.
 
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I wasn't lucky enough to go up on stage, but I did get to attend their show earlier this year when I was in Vegas for SHOT.

If you find yourself in Vegas, I seriously recommend checking out their show. Penn and Teller are first-rate showmen.

About the only thing I could tell from watching was that they weren't using full-power loads.

That said, I seriously doubt that Penn actually catches a bullet, even a low-powered one in his mouth, for two pretty simple reasons:

1.) Even with a low-powered round, the odds of chipping a tooth when pulling such a stunt night after night after night would be extremely high.

2.) They flat out tell you at the beginning of the show that everything they do is an illusion designed to trick you. They even go to some pretty serious lengths to show you a lot of the sleight-of-hand that magicians use.
 
If you go to see the show...

don't put your hands over your ears when they tell you, just listen to the report. Also, don't watch the catcher, watch the recoil of the pistol. Does the saying "Pop, no kick!" come to mind.
I won't go any further than that, I am a Merlin member of IBM, International Brotherhood of Magicians, and of the magic part, have said enough. The evening Justin spoke of above, the audience was loaded (no pun intended) with gun people, as Shot was in full swing. My son got on stage for a different illusion, I still have the props P&T used.
My wife once asked me how a particular illusion we had just watched on TV, was done. I said I can show you the apparatus in one of my books. She wanted to know, so the curtain was raised and she was so disappointed she said "Never tell me any of that again, it's takes away the magic".
I used to do a version of Harry Anderson's (the judge on Night Court) needle through the arm at the local Halloween party. It's great geek magic for that type of affair. Well, one time when the party was closing down at mid-night there was this middle aged lady who pulled me aside and was very concerned about what I had done. She was a doctor and thought she had just seen a medical miracle, and wanted me to show her again so she could understand the underlying physiology (bleeding control, instant wound healing,...). She was heartbroken when I told her "Lady, it's a trick!".
Just enjoy the moment, it's fun to know how it's done, it's Magic to wonder.

gunsnsprinkles - I am so glad you have a solid insight as to what went down and how. An old friend first told me it's not what you know, it's what you know for sure that ain't so that's the problem. YMMV
 
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Teller is not 6 foot. I am 5.10 and am about 2 inches taller than he is. I have a photo of me and him standing next to each other. The bullet trick is all BS. Its a good trick but its a trick non the less. It may not be known exactly how its done, but its not a real bullet and its not shot with low presure. Its all fake, just as Copperfield does not transport to Jamaca from back stage. LOL.
 
I've got pictures of myself standing next to both Penn and Teller. Teller is pretty much average height.

Penn, on the other hand, is a monster. I'm 6'3", and he's at least two inches taller than I am.
 
Wiki puts him at precisely my height :D 6'5".

Tall enough to hit your head on just about everything...

Too short to see it before you get there.

They are one of the only reasons I'd have to visit Vegas as a teetotaling non-gambler.
 
Anyone ever try marking the sides of the bullet to see if the rifling disturbs the mark?

You realize that whatever is actually happening, they are not catching a fired bullet in their teeth, right?
 
Great show, went to it for my 50th birthday (I've got a great wife). The tricks are phenomenal, they are very entertaining, and even when they show how one of the tricks are done, you really don't catch them at it.
 
Plus one more who has been on stage for the bullet catching trick. They asked if there were any police, military or gun nuts in the audience. The three cops I was with didn't raise their hands so I got to go. Hmmm. Now after three moves I wonder where the bullet & shell are.
 
Went for New Years, didn't go up on stage. Great guys, great show, they are strongly committed to Second Amendment and all other civil rights. They stand for pictures and autographs after every show, and sell little stainless steel placards of the Bill of Rights and plastic knife combs in the gift shop.

I really like how they dedicate the show to critical thinking and making sure you realize that their tricks, as well as the other illusionists, and the late-night psychics are all using principles as old as time to distract and misdirect you to miss the switch.
 
I had a view in January of the trick from the front right corner of the stage ... I have my suspicions on how it is pulled off but can't be sure.
It was NOT the same guys on stage as last time - either they use a lot of plants in the audience rotated or it isn't plants ... I suspect that it isn't plants.

And it is one of the best live acts I've ever seen, I want to be Penn Jillette when I grow up. The way they take some time to talk to anyone willing to swing by and sign autographs after every single show is really cool, if you wanted you could lurk out there on a night you don't go to the show and meet them as they come out.

I do have one of their BoR in my wallet, and a couple scattered in luggage.
 
They even go to some pretty serious lengths to show you a lot of the sleight-of-hand that magicians use.


even when they show how one of the tricks are done, you really don't catch them at it.

Actually, this in it's self is one of their best tricks, they tell you how it's done, you are then watching "intently" to see the trick as described, and they do it their way, which is different so you are unable to catch them because you are looking for something else.
 
I HATE being fooled

I dont watch "magicians" as I hate being fooled.

And that is what they do.

The hand is faster than the eye.

Its a TRICK,and I dont go any where to be fooled.
 
But Penn and Teller just make being fooled so much fun ... and a learning experience, as well.

1 - if you eschew magic tricks, why even comment on a particular one?
2- do you have something to say about this particular magic trick?
3- you don't know what you're missing in P&T ... here's an example, cups and balls, revealed ... never be fooled by cups and balls again



Penn and Teller produce a record number of live animals (well, they are little ones):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gysIuQRK7eA (mostly just manic fun)
Penn and Teller explain the "saw a woman in half trick":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytIUgB2jpos&feature=related (watch to the end, there's a twist)
 
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