Lupinus
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I don't care how old it is it comes at my family in a threatning manner its time on this planet is cut short, if it doesn't I have no problems with it.
Pit Bull Rampage
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Lupinus
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Did I say I would only shoot a pitbull? Where the heck did I single out pitbulls as being the only threatning dog I'd send off to the great beyond?
Only thing I singled pitbulls (along with rotties and dobermans) out for were as an aggressive breed with genetic aggresivness, not the only ones I would shoot. I don't care if it is a fluffy little bunny rabbit or a llama, if it attacks or makes a pretty damn good impression it is about to attack me or mine its time on this earth is being cut short.
If it is not threatning? No of course not I think they are a usless breed and anyone who owns them is asking for what has a decent probablity of coming for them. Never said I plan to buy some bulk ammo and drive around shooting pitbulls on sight. And leash or no leash doesn't particuarly matter. If the person can handle it MAYBE, but if it snaps at me within the distence of my boot its getting a steel too or a bullet to the head.
Only thing I singled pitbulls (along with rotties and dobermans) out for were as an aggressive breed with genetic aggresivness, not the only ones I would shoot. I don't care if it is a fluffy little bunny rabbit or a llama, if it attacks or makes a pretty damn good impression it is about to attack me or mine its time on this earth is being cut short.
If it is not threatning? No of course not I think they are a usless breed and anyone who owns them is asking for what has a decent probablity of coming for them. Never said I plan to buy some bulk ammo and drive around shooting pitbulls on sight. And leash or no leash doesn't particuarly matter. If the person can handle it MAYBE, but if it snaps at me within the distence of my boot its getting a steel too or a bullet to the head.
pitbulls, don't really have an opinion...
it's the chihuahuas that i detest. barks at everything, and barks at nothing, they don't stop barking. insecure personalities contribute to this, i guess. overgrown rats, good for nothing, and the owners don't do anything about the barking because it's their dogs, and they are used to it.
did i mention that i hate chihuahuas?
it's the chihuahuas that i detest. barks at everything, and barks at nothing, they don't stop barking. insecure personalities contribute to this, i guess. overgrown rats, good for nothing, and the owners don't do anything about the barking because it's their dogs, and they are used to it.
did i mention that i hate chihuahuas?
Lupinus
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LOL boots.
I always wanted one of thsoe and name him spike. Why? I don't know something about onea them named spike just makes me laugh.
I always wanted one of thsoe and name him spike. Why? I don't know something about onea them named spike just makes me laugh.
back to the subject...
the issue is not clear cut. both sides make excellent points. too much government control is bad, but not enough government control could let negligent owners get away with murder. what is that called?.... a paradox? i have seen a lot of pitbulls in my day, as i live in the "hood", and there are more mean ones than nice ones. i'm not saying that pits are genetically predisposed to being aggressive, but in reality, it seems that way. i believe that the solution to this problem exists, but banning all pits for the behavior of some, is kind of like adopting the brady/feinstein view towards firearms. but then i realize that guns and dogs are two totally different things. what is my point?... i don't really know, i'm just summing up my thoughts relevant to this thread.
and did i mention i hate chihuahuas? i should add that to my sig line.
the issue is not clear cut. both sides make excellent points. too much government control is bad, but not enough government control could let negligent owners get away with murder. what is that called?.... a paradox? i have seen a lot of pitbulls in my day, as i live in the "hood", and there are more mean ones than nice ones. i'm not saying that pits are genetically predisposed to being aggressive, but in reality, it seems that way. i believe that the solution to this problem exists, but banning all pits for the behavior of some, is kind of like adopting the brady/feinstein view towards firearms. but then i realize that guns and dogs are two totally different things. what is my point?... i don't really know, i'm just summing up my thoughts relevant to this thread.
and did i mention i hate chihuahuas? i should add that to my sig line.
silverlance
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where i draw the line - and will stick to it.
1. Government, under election from the populace, should rightfully DEMAND that owners of ANY dog, even a 6" licks-its-own-balls-all-day nit:
* KNOW how to raise dogs - feeding, play, how-to care, etc
* be EQUIPPED to raise dogs - space, enclosure, harness & leash, etc
* UNDERSTAND consequences of irresponsible ownership - liability, etc
2. People should be READY to deal with dogs - ANY DOGS - that have been irresponsibly raised, or "gone berserk" - just as people should be READY to deal with people who have been equally irresponsibly raised, or "gone berserk". If that same 6" ball-licker tries to bite me, I will kick it so hard that they'll need a plunger to remove the dent. If it tries to bite my toddler, I will kick it likewise, just three or four times more. Replace ball-licker with pitt, rott, lab, retriever, shep, st.bernard, etc ... and boot with equally escalating disciplinary action.
3. Anyone who harasses a dog should be SUBJECT to prosecution the same way that anyone who vandalizes someone's vehicle would be prosecuted for damages. (You don't shoot someone who throws a rock at your dog. You kick arse, then sue their pants off.)
Did I leave anything out?
I own two dogs, a Jindo (large) and a Scot Terrier (tiny and very high-pitched). I would not hesitate to apply the above to myself and my dogs. As for people who say, "no gov intervention" - gov taking responsibility for punishing idiots and loose dog-cannons is much preferable to my having to do it myself.
1. Government, under election from the populace, should rightfully DEMAND that owners of ANY dog, even a 6" licks-its-own-balls-all-day nit:
* KNOW how to raise dogs - feeding, play, how-to care, etc
* be EQUIPPED to raise dogs - space, enclosure, harness & leash, etc
* UNDERSTAND consequences of irresponsible ownership - liability, etc
2. People should be READY to deal with dogs - ANY DOGS - that have been irresponsibly raised, or "gone berserk" - just as people should be READY to deal with people who have been equally irresponsibly raised, or "gone berserk". If that same 6" ball-licker tries to bite me, I will kick it so hard that they'll need a plunger to remove the dent. If it tries to bite my toddler, I will kick it likewise, just three or four times more. Replace ball-licker with pitt, rott, lab, retriever, shep, st.bernard, etc ... and boot with equally escalating disciplinary action.
3. Anyone who harasses a dog should be SUBJECT to prosecution the same way that anyone who vandalizes someone's vehicle would be prosecuted for damages. (You don't shoot someone who throws a rock at your dog. You kick arse, then sue their pants off.)
Did I leave anything out?
I own two dogs, a Jindo (large) and a Scot Terrier (tiny and very high-pitched). I would not hesitate to apply the above to myself and my dogs. As for people who say, "no gov intervention" - gov taking responsibility for punishing idiots and loose dog-cannons is much preferable to my having to do it myself.
Biker said:
I gotta say that genetics definatly play a role in behavior. Find an old shepard breed that has never been trained how to herd anything in its life. Look it right in the eye and run away, see what it does. Its even funnier to watch when they try to keep wandering children around their folks.
Devon
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I have one of those awful pitbulls. I really should keep it to myself but I can't. I walk her almost daily, on a leash. When we walk we stop to visit friends, human and animal. She sleeps in my bed, plays with our little dog and my sons cat. Our backyard has a 6' privacy fence with a gate that can only be opened from the inside. I've taken her to my sons school to pick him up and made new friends. She's food aggressive, don't try to take my dinner either. I guess I'm one of those white trash, pitbull / gun owning rednecks some people fear. Go ahead, kick my dog, I bite back, she won't. This June while we were out walking downtown Lawrence, Ks. a lady tried to provoke my dog, it didn't work, and I wasn't disappointed in my dog. I felt sorry for the lady, she might provoke someone else's dog someday.
Take care of your dog, treat it right and with respect, you'll have no problems. The folks that don't do so are causing all of this hate & discontent.
Now, as for the strategy, I've found that the best way to break off a dog attack is to grab the dog's tounge with your strong hand and hang on. If you're going to get bitten, you might as well choose where rather than the dog. Takes all the fight right out of them and will, if done long enough, suffocate them. I learned that when a Doberman came at me and I have a couple of small scars as a reminder. I've never been bitten badly by any other dog than a German shephard, took a chunk out of my right calf. Heck, I was 10 years old & hadn't learned these lessons yet & deserved what I got. I was in it's yard.
Mods, sorry for the rant
Devon
Take care of your dog, treat it right and with respect, you'll have no problems. The folks that don't do so are causing all of this hate & discontent.
Now, as for the strategy, I've found that the best way to break off a dog attack is to grab the dog's tounge with your strong hand and hang on. If you're going to get bitten, you might as well choose where rather than the dog. Takes all the fight right out of them and will, if done long enough, suffocate them. I learned that when a Doberman came at me and I have a couple of small scars as a reminder. I've never been bitten badly by any other dog than a German shephard, took a chunk out of my right calf. Heck, I was 10 years old & hadn't learned these lessons yet & deserved what I got. I was in it's yard.
Mods, sorry for the rant
Devon
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Thank you onerifle.
oneshooter
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To All,
The bottom line to me is that my/anybodys children are more important to me than ANY animal. If worse comes to worse then the animal looses. The rest can be worked out after.
Oneshooter
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The bottom line to me is that my/anybodys children are more important to me than ANY animal. If worse comes to worse then the animal looses. The rest can be worked out after.
Oneshooter
Livin in Texas
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