Protestors march against more secure U.S. border
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CAnnoneer
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Mmm, that pulls me to years past, when "red" shirts and brown shirts made politics on the streets of Germany, while the Weimar gov cowered in a corner helplessly paralyzed by obsolete ideas, political impasse, bankruptcy, and plutocratic pressure. We know how that turned out...
longeyes
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Thanks. Just read it. Only confirms my thoughts.
longeyes
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I would like to believe the Germany in the '30s parallel is far-fetched. I don't think it is.
And I don't think the future is going to be all that different either.
And I don't think the future is going to be all that different either.
So what you're really saying is that you are pulling your expertise about Mexico's southern border out of your ass.
Your question and summary of my opinion showed no comprehension or recongition of any of the previous points or posts I made. Don't expect courteous responses to purposeful misinterpretation.
TX35
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Would someone please explain to me what the difference is between this Aztlan, & the KKK??? They want their "pure" race to take over, & believe they are superior...... They also don't care for Jews!!
engineer151515
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We seemed to have lost our American sense of fair play.
BTW - what's with all the trademark (tm) symbols I've been seeing recently in posts? Is someone trying to corner the market in common idiomatic phrases?
TX35
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I want to ask EVEYONE to look at this website: http://www.aztlan.net/
It's unbelievable how anti-american & anti-semitic it is. Furthermore, it appears to very pro Muslim...... I feel Gentlemen, that there is a war coming......
It's unbelievable how anti-american & anti-semitic it is. Furthermore, it appears to very pro Muslim...... I feel Gentlemen, that there is a war coming......
I thought you guys claim 70% or Americans were ferociously against this, yet the the anti-immigrant rallies drew a few thousand tops at each location.
Guess people don't care quite as much as you think.
Your point? (or are you just showing that there are right-wing extremists in every culture)
Guess people don't care quite as much as you think.
And right now bloggers around the world are linking to KKK and White Supremacist sites and saying that's the typical American view, in the same fashion you are here with your link.
Your point? (or are you just showing that there are right-wing extremists in every culture)
TX35
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If I have to spell it out for you, you will never understand!!
Flap on over here and take a read, Seagull. Just one of many examples.
www.vdare.com/sailer/marshall_plan.htm
Biker
www.vdare.com/sailer/marshall_plan.htm
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Glock Glockler
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Your question and summary of my opinion showed no comprehension or recongition of any of the previous points or posts I made. Don't expect courteous responses to purposeful misinterpretation
Hmmm, what about this am I misinterpreting?
- You said that deporting people after we catch them here illegally is acting like China.
- China, a country notorious for trampling on people's rights, would then be on par with the US if we deport illegals.
By that logic should I not conclude that we are not within our rights to deport people who break our laws an illegally come here? If that is our right then by default they do not have the right o enter as they please, is this not true?
I am recognizing what you are saying just fine, it seems to me that you dont want to be put on the spot when shown the end result of your line of reasoning.
Your post was way out of line, dont do it again.
Hmmm, what about this am I misinterpreting?
- You said that deporting people after we catch them here illegally is acting like China.
- China, a country notorious for trampling on people's rights, would then be on par with the US if we deport illegals.
By that logic should I not conclude that we are not within our rights to deport people who break our laws an illegally come here? If that is our right then by default they do not have the right o enter as they please, is this not true?
I am recognizing what you are saying just fine, it seems to me that you dont want to be put on the spot when shown the end result of your line of reasoning.
Your post was way out of line, dont do it again.
longeyes
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You're wrong. Americans are individualists, not taken to mob actions. They are just "processing" the images of a few days ago and deciding what they think.
Don't assume Americans are apathetic about all this. Let the street mobs get nasty and you'll see responses. The Big Boys have been trying to stifle the voices on the right that would counteract all this. What it will take is for someone to arise to lay out the problem with visceral impact. Someone, perhaps, who can make Americans understand their country's being stolen from them, that, more concretely, they may lose their home to confiscatory taxation, their children's education and hopes of good employment, etc.
We are on the verge of big things happening.
TX35
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If you scan down to the bottom of the website, the "hit" count is almost 25 million!! They also refer to Bin Laden as the "Pancho Villa of Islam".....
No. I said establishing a different set of laws and judicial standards for a sub-population was the equivalent of China.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! 25 Million since 2000? I think that's less than the marshmellow Peeps torture test site.
And how many times a day do you and your buddies log in to check up on the stuff they write? I bet well over half the hits are you guys fishing for stuff to post elsewhere to try and rally others against them.
That's why people voted for GWB too, and he's been brilliant, don't you agree?
CAnnoneer
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Do you really want this to be solved on the street? Do you really really want this?
They care enough to say they will support the candidates of the toughest line. That should be a wakeup call for many provocateurs.
Again, be careful whom you poke and what you wish for.
In 1940, the nazis and the bushidoists thought America was decadent, pacifistic, and weak. The nazis got Hamburg, Berlin, Dresden, and Cologne for their troubles. The bushidoists got incendiary infernos and mushroom clouds.
In 2001, the jihadists thought America was decadent, pacifistic, and weak. They got Afganistan and Iraq. There are strong voices that call for far more drastic measures in case of further major attacks.
Throughout history, there have been fools that blindly stoked fires that burnt them and their houses, and history loves to repeat itself.
Glock Glockler
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Jlseagull, you said
Tell me what your high-minded "Me citizen, you poo-poo" attitude solves here. It only pollutes the ideals that America is actually founded on by establishing multiple classes of "justice", in ways similar to China and the old USSR
and I responded to that. I would like to know how we are "establishing a different set of laws and judicial standards for a sub-population" if we expell those that enter the US illegally? The laws and judicial standards are the same throughout, the only difference is that an immigration law does not apply to people here legally.
Tell me what your high-minded "Me citizen, you poo-poo" attitude solves here. It only pollutes the ideals that America is actually founded on by establishing multiple classes of "justice", in ways similar to China and the old USSR
and I responded to that. I would like to know how we are "establishing a different set of laws and judicial standards for a sub-population" if we expell those that enter the US illegally? The laws and judicial standards are the same throughout, the only difference is that an immigration law does not apply to people here legally.
You're wrong. Americans are individualists, not taken to mob actions. They are just "processing" the images of a few days ago and deciding what they think.
Don't assume Americans are apathetic about all this. Let the street mobs get nasty and you'll see responses. The Big Boys have been trying to stifle the voices on the right that would counteract all this. What it will take is for someone to arise to lay out the problem with visceral impact. Someone, perhaps, who can make Americans understand their country's being stolen from them, that, more concretely, they may lose their home to confiscatory taxation, their children's education and hopes of good employment, etc.
We are on the verge of big things happening.
i like that post longeyes. i'm not sure i see most americans as anything but preoccupied and distracted by trivia, but i hope what you are saying is very true. i really wish people would collectively wake up and actually take a serious interest in assuming control of this country.
Don't assume Americans are apathetic about all this. Let the street mobs get nasty and you'll see responses. The Big Boys have been trying to stifle the voices on the right that would counteract all this. What it will take is for someone to arise to lay out the problem with visceral impact. Someone, perhaps, who can make Americans understand their country's being stolen from them, that, more concretely, they may lose their home to confiscatory taxation, their children's education and hopes of good employment, etc.
We are on the verge of big things happening.
i like that post longeyes. i'm not sure i see most americans as anything but preoccupied and distracted by trivia, but i hope what you are saying is very true. i really wish people would collectively wake up and actually take a serious interest in assuming control of this country.
People who are sane and serious about the political process are seldom out in the streets protesting.
Ever been to a protest?
It's usually an attempt to create the illusion of widespread support. Sometimes, it's real, but most of the time it's a tactic to make a few people seem like many.
Ever been to a protest?
It's usually an attempt to create the illusion of widespread support. Sometimes, it's real, but most of the time it's a tactic to make a few people seem like many.
CAnnoneer
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You really don't get it, do you?
What we are looking at is the apoptosis of both major parties.
Dems don't know what they stand for anymore and their base has been eroding for a decade. Reps had a golden opportunity in 2000 and they completely and utterly botched it, alienating most of their traditional base. Both parties are in a state of disintegration. People of both former allegiances start understanding that their immediate interests are defended by neither.
What do you think is going to emerge from the political protoplasm?
How about a demagogue with a clear simple digestible message of change and rebirth? Do you really really want this?
Oh, you'll have it.
Uh. You have repeatedly said you read my posts, yet you obviously haven't.
The discussion was what to do with existing illiegals, Cuda wanted all illegals on death row executed immediately, and Biker agreed. Call that good 'ol American values if you want, but sounds more like China to me.
Seagull
Show a post where I said that all illegals should be executed. You can't.
As far as illegals on death row goes, they should be executed along with the rest, illegal *or* LEGAL.
Mendacity rears it's ugly head.
Now, I provided proof that Mexico's southern border is much better guarded than ours.
Care to comment?
Biker
Show a post where I said that all illegals should be executed. You can't.
As far as illegals on death row goes, they should be executed along with the rest, illegal *or* LEGAL.
Mendacity rears it's ugly head.
Now, I provided proof that Mexico's southern border is much better guarded than ours.
Care to comment?
Biker
Oh, I definitely get it. I'm eager for the zealots to go form their own party and end the 20-year hijack of the GOP so we can get back to fixing the damn economy for real instead of propping it up on non-sustainable war spending.
What proof? That you have imaginary friends who might live somewhere in Mexico if they were real? If that's proof to you, no wonder you believe so much crap.
Nice try. But that's not what I said.
Cuda said all illegals currently death row should be immediately executed, not all illegals. You agreed they were guilty simply by being illegal, and that illegals are not afforded the same "innocent until proven guilty" rights that us Americans have earned.
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