Pseudo Scout Rifle (semi-auto)

[9thchild]

Anybody out there have a set up like this? I was thinking of doing a scout-style rig with a Mini-14. I know ultimak makes a forward picatinny rail for Mini-14s but it is quite pricey ($130). For that one could get a whole new stock that came with a rail on the fore end. Any other options out there?

I would love to see any pictures or feedback about a scout-style set up for semi-autos (doesn't have to be off a Mini platform).

I like the idea of the Mini because it has a lot of the scout characteristics Cooper desired already from the factory (stainless steel, synthetic stock, ghost ring sights, light weight, etc). It also has the same general battery of arms as my 10/22 and M1 Garand. That being said I am open to other platforms.

Please no arguments about the scout rifle concept itself, totally not the point of this thread.

 

[Geno]

Have you looked at SA's M1A SOCOM?

Geno

 

[9thchild]

I have Geno. And I love the Scout Squad as well, but my budget is about $700 for the rifle itself (even a Mini would be pushing it). Also, weight is a major factor.

 

[RCArms.com]

How about an Arsenal SLR-106 with a krebs custom rear sight and a MI rail forend or Utilimak gas tube for a forward mounted optic.

Light, reliable, polymer stock (folding), detachable mags, and in a NATO caliber.

 

[Averageman]

Something like this maybe?

 

[Warp]

I'll just leave this here

(I do need to build the stock up a little)

 

[9thchild]

Wow those are both awesome. Does the rail add more weight? And what are the total weights on those rigs if you don't mind me asking?

 

[rodregier]

Garand scout w/Medesh mount

 

[dprice3844444]

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2012/10/26/shuffs-parkerizing-mini-g-m1-garand/

shuff's mini g

 

[MattShlock]

Need to add your pic to the Cats And Guns thread...

 

[C-grunt]

My uncle's friend hunts with a M1A Squad Scout topped with an Aimpoint. Works REALLY well in the woods and pretty good out to beyond 200 yards. I know its not the same rifle but a Mini would be similar just in a smaller package.

 

[dmazur]

The Garand works with an Eotech, too -

The scout mount is slightly heavier than the rear hand guard.

I believe this rifle weighs around 11 lbs, with the Eotech.

 

[9thchild]

Dprice I both hate you and love you for showing me the Mini-G, I am obsessed now. Though even if you had the cheapest Garand, that whole package would cost well over $1,000. Might as well get an M1A.

C-grunt I totally agree which is why my initial thought was to do it with a mini (wikipedia also helped). The part I'm having trouble with is spending more money on the mount than I'll spend on the optic. And most of my research suggests that the Ultimak is going to add weight.

 

[tomrkba]

How do you get your eye in line with the scope or Eotech?

 

[Girodin]

By not having any kind of reasonable cheek weld would be my guess. An aim point micro with the right mount might fix that. Eotehs are made to be the right height on ARs.

 

[Averageman]

Mr Schuffin is a great guy to deal with.
He took my rifle applied the scout mount and went over it completely and then made two suggestion and I agreed.
The turn around time might have been 2 1/2 weeks.

 

[dmazur]

How do you get your eye in line with the scope or Eotech?

The Eotech is the only sighting device I'm aware of which does not require a cheek weld. The red dot is holographically superimposed on the target, and its position does not change as you move your head around...

...believe it or not.

I prefer to use the NM sights on this Garand, but the Eotech is faster and I hit cans / stationary clay pigeons better with it than with the iron sights.

 

[Geno]

Those EoTechs are dandy, aren't they. I have one on my SOCOM.

Geno

 

[AKMtnRunner]

I love my Mini 14 in 6.8spc as a scout rifle. And with a small Weaver 1-3x scope mounted traditionally, it's incredibly handy.

 

[squarepants33889]

S.K.S.

 

[bainter1212]

I also drool over the Mini G......someday it will be mine.

That being said, another vote here for the SKS. With some Tech Sights and the firing pin spring mod, makes a great rugged and reliable scout. Yank the bayo for weight reasons. The great thing about the SKS is that it was designed for use in arctic conditions, making it exceptionally reliable.

 

[greenlion]

Get a low-end AR. The Mini has absolutely no advantages in today's world. Magazines are more expensive, its less accurate, has WAY less accessories, costs almost as much/as much if you add that rail.

 

[JShirley]

A .223 isn't even a pseudo-scout. The Scout concept includes the idea of an extremely versatile arm that can be used for hunting or defense. You need to move up in caliber to at least 6.5x39mm, 6.8 SPC, or 7.62x39mm.

John

 

[Deaf Smith]

Why not a Remington Woodmaster 7400 carbine in 30-06.

It is magazine fed and can take a peep sight as well as a scope. I think there are aftermarket 10 round mags to. Catch is, it's a 30-06 and not a .308.

Deaf

 

[baz]

A .223 isn't even a pseudo-scout. The Scout concept includes the idea of an extremely versatile arm that can be used for hunting or defense. You need to move up in caliber to at least 6.5x39mm, 6.8 SPC, or 7.62x39mm.

I agree, because of the limited hunting utility of the .223, but what would you say to a lever action with a forward mounted scope? I have a Marlin 1894C in .357 Magnum with the XS Lever Scout Mount. While limited in range, it can be used for both hunting and defense at short ranges. Of course, I've got the GSR for the real deal, but I have a couple of other rifles configured as "psuedo" scout rifles: Mosin M-44 and Garand .308. I'm partial to the concept.