PX4 Storm Compact & Subcompact

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Harleytoo

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So recently I posted a thread about my new carry trio of these two and a P229 Legion. The Legion is a superb gun, but I will probably try to keep it a bit more pristine and not carry it regularly.

I have had the PX4 Subcompact for a fair few years and found that I really like the little (and I use that term loosely) gun.

I decided to do a bit of thinning out of my gun cabinet and ended up, in the process, picking up a PX4 Storm Compact last week.

Since buying the Subcompact I had not done anything other than shoot and clean it. This weekend I did the D spring conversion and added the stealth safeties. These really improve the profile of the gun and make the slide very clean, especially on the Subcompact model as the slide latch is already a low profile single side unit.

I liked the conversion so much that I ordered the same for the Compact, along with the single side slide latch that is much smaller than the ambi setup. I had ordered two of the D springs so I did that swap on the Compact as well. (http://www.berettausa.com/en-us/beretta-px4-safety-and-slide-catch-low-prof-typ-g-only-/e00348/)

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The Subcompact I run either a 15 or 17 round magazine (typically 17) with the X-Grip extension, which helps it fit may big hand a bit better. The original magazine with the flip down lip on the front works fine and I can get purchase with all of my fingers with it. Therefore, depending on what I am wearing the Subcompact is very versatile in its ability to utilize either this original 13 round magazine for a really compact carry or a standard 15 or 17 round magazine for a bit larger package.

So I was able to take them both out to the range today to compare them side by side. Keep in mind while these two PX4’s look the same the Compact is a rotating barrel but the Subcompact is a more typical tilt barrel design. The Compact and full size share the rotating barrel design.

The Compact and full size utilize the same rotating barrel, the Compact magazines are color coded with an orange follower to easily recognize the difference.

I had a Stoger Cougar some time back which was built from the original Beretta rotating barrel design. I liked that gun a lot but let a friend talk me out of it.

The rotating barrel provides a reduction in felt recoil and, in my opinion, helps make the Compact a really flat shooting gun.

I fed about 400-500 rounds through them both and had absolutely no feeding issues or misfires. Both ate everything I fed them.

Accuracy was a bit better, as you would expect, on the slightly longer Compact but both were very acceptable off hand out to about 15 yards. The rotating barrel, I suspect, also allowed me to keep on target better with the Compact.

Regardless, I still like the feel and function of both of these guns. The Subcompact, even at 15 yards, was easy to keep all shots in a head sized target. To be honest any spray was shooter not weapon related. I tend to pull shots left, so I had a number of ragged singular holes just left of center.
Weight wise the two, when I utilize the extended magazines on the Subcompact, are essentially the same. These are not, necessarily, light weapons. Many have observed that they have a bulky look and feel to them, and I would agree that they do. However, that is something I find I like about them. They look and feel like full size guns and in many ways function like a full size gun.

Carrying either in IWB pancake holsters either at the appendix or small of back locations works well. I have recently lost 27 pounds, so carrying in front is much more comfortable. When I was a bit … heavier … the appendix carry was less so. In a hip paddle holster both carry close to the body with my specific holster which puts the gun high and tight. Allowing me to carry just off center toward the rear and conceal both guns fairly well. Not as well as IWB, but as long as I have a decently sized shirt well enough.

Beretta makes a number of performance parts that are all reasonably priced to make them better. The only complaint I have is that take up on single action trigger pull is longer than I would like. Somewhere between ¼ and ½ inch. However, with the D spring conversion both double action and single action are smooth and crisp. I suspect just a little trigger work would improve this further. Additionally, Beretta makes a full drop in competition group. However, out of the box I would say that for carry duty these guns just work.

The PX4 Storm is a highly underrated gun in my humble opinion. All three versions can be had for just over $500 new and easily low $400’s used. Yes, they are a bit thicker than your typical single stack, but when compared to other guns in the compact line they are pretty similar.

I think the industry in general needs to reclassify the naming conventions as most of the terms used are more marketing than truly sizing based. Full size everyone understands, but when we get into the compact, subcompact, nano and pico it is all up to marketing interpretation. I really view the Compact PX4 as a mid-size gun and the Subcompact as a double stack compact. Subcompact, to me, should be isolated mostly to single stack down sized carry guns (45 single stack not-with-standing). But that is my interpretation.

If you would like a really solid platform that with just a little work (converting the F decock/safety to the G decock only), really improves this gun platform from a concealed carry standpoint. All in all a very pleasing package to me.
 
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Great write-up. I really need to get those stealth safety levers for my PX4 full size. I really don't know why Beretta doesn't just put those on as standard equipment. Are there really people that prefer the bat-wings?

Are you saying that the full size mags will work in the subcompact but not the compact? If so, that is really strange.

On the classification issue, the easy way for most people to understand the PX4 sizes would be:

PX4 full size = Glock 17
PX4 compact = Glock 19
PX4 subcompact = Glock 26
 
Are you saying that the full size mags will work in the subcompact but not the compact? If so, that is really strange.

I want to retest this. After stating that and thinking about it, while it seemed that the magazine was locked in place (it extracted when I pressed the extractor button) the X-grip extender may have kept it from fully engaging. I will verify this tonight when I get home and post.
 
Excellent review. One of the better reviews I've seen on the storm and good comparison. Certainly makes them look like very compelling choices. Congrats on the weight loss as well, certainly can make cc much more comfortable.
 
Yep, confirmed that the magazines will work in any of the models. Thanks for catching me on that one.
 
I have the PX4 Compact in .40 S&W.

I've added the "D" spring, stealth decockers, and single sided slide stop, and it has become my primary carry. If you want a TDA carry gun this is about as good as it gets for less than $1200 or so. I like it better than my Sphinx SDP Compact Alpha.

I agree this is a very under rated gun.

Beretta has a 9mm version of this gun coming out that will feature all these modifications and include the competition trigger group as well. It is something Ernest Langdon has been working on.
 
I've always had a hankering for a sub compact. The Little Hairdryer That Could looks appealing to me. I may pick up a compact 92fs first, but the Storm series is a winner.

Great review.
 
You can never go wrong with any of the 92's IMHO. I had one of the full size 92's, actually waited for one out of Italy. I gave it to my son when he went into the Navy.

He always shot it better than I did anyhow!
 
Hey Harley can up post a couple pics of the legion and px Storm compact? Curious of the size difference. Thx
 
Thanks Harley, the compact seems pretty small (for a compact). Not sure the sub compact would give you much of a benefit. Seems like from a concealment standpoint you don't lose much at all with the compact and you get more rounds and with a rotating barrel and likely a better shooter.
 
Well, again Tex, remember that I have the extended mag on the Subcompact. So, generally, yes, I would probably steer someone asking toward the Compact. I think it carries very well.

Furthermore, the capacity dealt between them is just not significant. If I can't get the job done with 13, I probably won't be able to with 17. The 15 of the Compact seems to be a good go between and provides better accuracy.

However, all that said, there is something about the Subcompact that I just really like. Maybe it is its snubby styling (reminds me of a snub nose revolver), or the fact that it was one of my first conceal carry guns. At its price point, and especially its resale price point I really never see me getting rid of it. I would have to make a unilateral decision to change caliburs for that to happen. Which I don't see myself doing.

I will make this bold statement: I think the PX4 Storm Compact could be categorized as one of the best all around conceal carry guns on the market ... At its price point. It provides a stellar value in a solid package.
 
Harley too

Good review of the two Berettas. I had a MAB PA15 which also used a rotating barrel design and thought it was a very soft shooting, easy to control gun with little if any muzzle flip.
 
Bannock, yea, the rotating barrel has not gotten enough press IMHO when it comes to keeping you on target. It has been around for a long time and I am really surprised that it is not employed in more designs.

That coupled with the fact that the barrel effectively never changes its horizontal position just makes it a very flat shooter.
 
Harleytoo, I agree with you on the rotating barrel. My PX4 is a real soft shooter compared to my other 9mm pistols, and I have to assume the rotating barrel plays at least some part in it.

Similarly, I'm more accurate with it than I am with any other pistol I own. I just went to the range again today and the PX4 just continues to impress me. It is a very underrated gun.
 
Paul, I had never heard of the K100, that is pretty sweet.

Well, the Trijicon's, stealth safties and streamlined slide catch came in today, so I will get the Compact properly set up tomorrow. I don't have a sight press, so I may have to either get one or see about having them installed. The rest I can of course do.

One last note for anyone considering a PX4 for carry, they both do great in a simple and inexpensive pancake holster. Whether you carry front or back you really can't go wrong with it.
 
I just wanted to add that the machining and finish on my PX-4 is impeccable and worthy of a gun costing much more.

I am carrying my compact in a Don Hume JIT Slide that is made for the subcompact model while I wait for my horsehide Kramer belt scabbard to arrive.
 
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