Jim Watson
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I have friends who are proficient shooters but have not had the years of study that a lot of us here do. I shudder to think about the nonsense my IDPA protege might bring away from stuff like this.
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I have a Beretta 950 (22 Short) and a Jetfire (25 ACP). Nice small pistols
While the cartridges are not conceded effective, it could be enough to stop a situation at short range. I like the tip up barrel for loading.
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You've obviously never owned an airplane. Had you owned one, you would know the question is "What makes an airplane fly?" and the answer is: "money."
Old Dog
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And unfortunately, since most of the younger generations use the internet as the source of all their information (rather than actually doing something in real life and having a human mentor), I predict this will ultimately contribute to the death of shooting sports and gun ownership as we know it.
I started seeing this at work the last few years prior to my retirement. The kids resisted training, "If I need to know how to do that, I'll just Google it." Seriously.
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Plenty of human-created content on the Internet is garbage, too. NBD. It's been that way since the beginning.
The gun writers and gun store owners gave plenty of bad advice and alternative facts in the olden days, too. It's the human condition, not the end of civilization.
THR is my best source for good information, though a couple of Youtubers like "Forgotten Weapons" and "C&Rsenal" are also very good.
Part of being a human being is learning to tell the difference between useful information and garbled nonsense. There is nothing new about that.
The gun writers and gun store owners gave plenty of bad advice and alternative facts in the olden days, too. It's the human condition, not the end of civilization.
THR is my best source for good information, though a couple of Youtubers like "Forgotten Weapons" and "C&Rsenal" are also very good.
Part of being a human being is learning to tell the difference between useful information and garbled nonsense. There is nothing new about that.
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someguy2800
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It’s truly incredible what you can teach yourself on the internet. One of the keys to my personal success has been that I am a very good 3D designer in solidworks, but I never took a class or even read a manual. When I was about 23 I was the shop foreman at my company and they went from paper tracking of jobs to electronic, which meant I needed a PC. They dug an old engineering PC out of the closet and gave it to me. It happened to have Solidworks on it still and I dedicated much of my free time for the next few months to learning how to use it. I got all my info from Internet forums like this or youtube. In a year I was working in the engineering department and still am 12 years later. The internet can be an incredible repository of information but stuff like this poisons the well.
It reminds me of my dad who built our house I grew up in when he was in his early 20’s. I asked him once how did you know how to build a house? He said I didn’t. I went to the library and read all the books they had, and then did it.
There is a limit to the information you can find on the internet though, and two lessons young people need to learn is that sometimes the info you seek is in a book, and sometimes you need to ask someone that has been there and done that!
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halfmoonclip
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Cast that in brass, and shine a library light on it.
Unhappily, many folks take things at face value, especially if spouted by the MSM.
Beretta's ingenious means of avoiding the challenge of racking the slide. Unhappily, it only works with calibers light enough for blowback operation.
I had the .25 version (wish I'd kept it), and still have the .22 short, which I used for practice. Headshot a Copperhead with the .25 once, leading my six year old to inquire, "Do snakes have mommies?"
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CraigC
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I agree 100%. Nothing is all good or all bad. You gotta take what you can use and leave the rest. I've learned a hell of a lot from the internet, things I might not have been able to otherwise. Leatherwork, welding and bushcraft immediately come to mind.
fastbolt
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It's hardly surprising that the internet allows incorrect information to be disseminated at the speed of electrons, is it?
Might as well believe that everything politicians and the media says is gospel ...
Might as well believe that everything politicians and the media says is gospel ...
NIGHTLORD40K
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Wanna see their heads spin? Hand 'em a $5 bill for a $4.37 charge and see how long it takes to get correct change.
Want the kid at the gas station to think you're a super-genius wizard? Buy a pack of smokes for $6.22, ask for $13.78 in gas and hand them a $20. They be like: "Whaaaaaaaattttttt?????"
I can't even finish this with a smiley emoji because it's actually quite sad.
NIGHTLORD40K
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So, is that DISnformation, MISinformation, or INinformation?It's hardly surprising that the internet allows incorrect information to be disseminated at the speed of electrons, is it?
Might as well believe that everything politicians and the media says is gospel ...
I have an index card with Voight- Kampff questions taped to my screen at work. It works wonders with Pakistani telebots.
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someguy2800
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Edited my above comment because I accidentally typed “a lesson you people need to learn”. I meant to type a lesson YOUNG people need to learn. Meant no offense to the dusty old farts.
doubleh
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I made my living as an ASME code 9-G 6 certified welder for many years. After retiring and getting internet I started watching welding videos on youtube for entertainment. At lest 85 % were pure horse pucky. Recently I watched one about the best mig welder to buy in a certain price range. An "experienced" welder did the full penetration welds and they were tested on a bending machine. Every single one failed. Not a good thing and you would have been sent down the road kicking rocks after a test like that. There is some good info on the net. You just have to find it and know enough about the subject to see that the presenter knows what they are talking about.
CraigC
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In my case it's either YouTube or nothing. I'm not going to be erecting any skyscrapers and don't have the time or inclination to spend a year at the local trade school.
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You mean there’s fake news…
No surprise the demise of true journalism, thus creates a vacuum for just about anything to go unchallenged by certain persons in society.
This is another iteration of the dark ages but on the flip side there is a multitude of “answers” or “truths” and it’s only those who can critically think and have their heads pulled out of their southern repository can determine fact and truth.
No surprise the demise of true journalism, thus creates a vacuum for just about anything to go unchallenged by certain persons in society.
This is another iteration of the dark ages but on the flip side there is a multitude of “answers” or “truths” and it’s only those who can critically think and have their heads pulled out of their southern repository can determine fact and truth.
That Baretta has the longest trigger pull I've ever experienced in a gun. A friend of mine had one at the range and I shot it. I actually quit half-way through pulling the trigger to look at the gun because I thought it must have been broken to not have fired yet.
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They don't have a stellar da pull. Even the sa pull kind of sucks usually. And the later 21a guns I've got will go off with the safety on too if you pull just a tiny bit harder on the trigger.
Like I said, I collect them for no reason at all. The tend to be more accurate and pretty reliable compared to the other pocket guns from that era (bersa/ Jennings etc) but they really aren't that good of a gun lol.
If Beretta ever made a Saturday night special.... that was it. Italian Saturday nights just cost more
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Without a doubt, the 'net has bailed me out on all sorts of gun problems. When a starting out gunny, it's a wonder that more things weren't hopelessly buggered, for lack of good advice.
But, as has been noted, not everything on line is right.
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But, as has been noted, not everything on line is right.
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doubleh
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I never attended school. I was fortunate enough to become friends with an excellent welder that let me use his equipment and gave me tips. I also read a lot of books, the only source of information then. I have never even been inside a true skyscraper must less help build one. My work was with machinery from very light to pretty heavy at 52,000 pounds. A great deal of it was piping including quite a lot that was hydrotested to 10,000 psi. I even built quite a bit of office furniture. Nothing like variation to keep you from becoming bored. As mundane as steel fence corners to highly dangerous gas production systems with the most annoying being repairing broken cattle guards. These are made from junk 4" drill stem that is highly magnetized. Magneitized metal and DC welders do not like each other.
I have had a few school attendees come and ask me how to make a certain weld. I would hand them a helmet and tell them to watch closely from over my shoulder while I made the weld. Every one of them said they learned more from that demonstration than they had learned during school and each made a passing grade.
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On a Colt it's a pawl and on a s&w and others it's called a hand
Mizar
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The ratchet is that star looking thingy at the back of the cylinder that the pawl/hand is pushing to rotate it.
tws3b2
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Got to be a joke???
Rollis R. Karvellis
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It has taken me decades to unlearn a lot of the expert advise I have learned from the shop, magazine, and range expert.
HowardC
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Ha Ha..
That's about as good as this guy's site: https://concealedcarrylife.com/category/concealed-carry/. While some items are technically true, his vagueness, presentation, and less-than beginner attitude caused me a lot of head-shaking and laughs. Note THR is # 8 on his list of CCW sites, hehe.
I guess it takes all types.........
-West out
That's about as good as this guy's site: https://concealedcarrylife.com/category/concealed-carry/. While some items are technically true, his vagueness, presentation, and less-than beginner attitude caused me a lot of head-shaking and laughs. Note THR is # 8 on his list of CCW sites, hehe.
I guess it takes all types.........
-West out
CraigC
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Yeah, there's some red flags right off the bat.
"Are you wanting to make some DIY bullets and need to know how many grains are in a pound of powder? More importantly, how many how many grains in a pound of powder so you can calculate how many bullets you can make?
One pound of powder equals about 7,000 grains. There is actually no grain. Bullets contain either wheat or oats. To determine the number of bullets you can load, you would take the number of grains needed for the specific type of bullet and divide by 7000."
I will arbitrarily dismiss the words of ANY handloader that refers to loaded cartridges as "bullets". Also seems to be obsessed with how many grains are in a pound.
I would hope that was supposed to be "neither wheat or oats". He needs to proofread, or hire a better Chinabot.
"Grain refers to the mass or weight of the ammunition and is a unit of measurement. One grain can only way 1/7000 of a pound or 0.064 grams. In one pound there are 7,0000 grains or 437.5 grains in one ounce. If a bullet is 230 grains, then that means that it is a .45-caliber weight bullet. Another example is that a 115-grain bullet would weight nine millimeters."
What???
Here's another gem.
"The ammunition that is made for hunting and personal defense is designed to have increased velocity, a heavier bullet and a bullet that is designed to spread when it hits its target. These types of bullets are normally sold in containers in small quantities and is a bit more expensive. The hunting and personal defense ammo has more recoil, which is more commonly known as “kick.”"
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