Rifle or shotgun on a boat

[Willie Sutton]

"Unless Curator has some current legal authority to support this, and considering Willie Sutton's comments, I suggest not relying on this."


It's simply wrong. Sovereign status is only accorded warships of a foreign nation, never for civil ships. Same as airliners in international service versus military aircraft or government head of state in foreign transit. Those permissions are diplomatic in nature. Civil vessels and aircraft enjoy no such recognition.


Willie

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[TheColonel]

guns on boats

Just stay in US waters in states like texas, mississippi, florida, etc. Otherwise CONSULT LEGAL EXPERTS 1st. I don't know how you folks can live in states like CA, MA, NY, etc. I will pray for y'all.

 

[RustyShackelford]

Gun laws; boats, yachts.....

I'd buy a copy or two of the 2014 www.gunlawguide.com .
Keep one on the vessel, .
As noted, USCG & state laws/ordinances may be different in different locations.

Rusty

 

[Missionary]

Greetings
I lived in Mexico for one year. As a "visitor" you do not want to be found with any firearms, parts, loaded or unloaded brass, projectiles or powder or primers. You can receive prior authorization to hunt so whoever is organizing / selling that hunt should be able to provide the info.
You can receive up to 20 years. 2 years is very common. Confiscation of your goods and vehicle are a near garentee.
So do noy think you can buy your way out unless you have very deep pockets or have a very good friend who regularly visits the big white palace in DC.
Mike in Peru

 

[btg3]

Legality aside for moment, I think it was posted elsewhere that a shotgun has limited value for defense on open water. I recall that a single warning shot from a shotgun sufficed to sent some pirates looking for easier prey... much to the relief of the boaters who realized that being unable to return rifle fire left them vulnerable to being holed/sunk, disabled, or picked off from a distance beyond the range of their shotgun.

Being prepared to repel boarders, is just one layer of security to consider for boating.

 

[Willie Sutton]

^^ Living on a boat 6 months a year in the Caribbean:

I break down my own defense needs aboard into the following two categories:

A: Intra-Vessel Security.

and

B: Extra-Vessel Security.


Intra-Vessel security is no different than basic home defense, although the "swing room" for employment of defensive arms is more limited. Basically the scenario is that someone has come aboard uninvited or has entered the boat cabin (IE: a small-scale version of a home invasion) and requires discouragement. This is the typical "bedside gun" sort of need. I meet that with a M9 with a light on an aftermarket rail stashed by the head of my bunk (which is at the point of furthest retreat aboard). In the small cabin environment a pistol is the correct tool, and the large capacity of the M9 and the light mounted under it are an excellent combination for this need. A shoptgun is not stowable for immediate use nor is one short enough tobe usable in the cabin.

Extra-Vessel security is for discouraging the approach of another vessel or for repelling same should discouragement not be sufficient. A rifle is the correct tool. It needs to be short for stowage, very durable, with extreme reliabilty. I use a very basic "disposable" AK with an aftermarket ACE side folder. This is kept in a locker on the flying bridge where I generally run the boat, as running down below to retrieve arms if needed would be impossible in a confrontation.

Shotguns, if carried (they are not), would be reserved for shooting trap off of the fantail. They have no other purpose aboard. They are neither handy enough for intra-vessel employment nor do they have the range required for extra-vessel use.

The black powder cannon that can be mounted on the bow is simply for signaling Sunset and the Call to Rum, although I bet it would scare the crap outta the odd native in a canoe.


Willie

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