Savage 12FV on sale

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ohihunter2014 said:
better in the way of the bolt handle and smaller bolt? I have and axis heavy barrel in 223rem i cant see much difference other than stock and bolt handle.
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Better in the sense that more aftermarket parts are available, including bolt handles, bottom metal, mags, etc. If you can't see much difference then by all means enjoy the Axis. They are good rifles.
 
ohihunter2014 said:
better in the way of the bolt handle and smaller bolt? I have and axis heavy barrel in 223rem i cant see much difference other than stock and bolt handle.
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ohihunter2014 said:
axis comes with accu triggers now and i was told by savage the barrel is the same machines used on all their rifles.
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The axis II comes with the accutrigger but not the regular one. They are completely different receivers and bolts than the model 12. The axis has the small ejection port on the side of the receiver instead of the open top, the rear of the bolt and the handle is different, the axis has a notch on the bottom of the receiver for a recoil lug vs the recoil lug sandwiched between the barrel nut and receiver on the 12, and the receiver on the axis does not extend back behind the bolt handle so the safety is mounted to the trigger assembly. On the model 12 the receiver extends back into the tang with the safety mounted in the receiver tang. The finish is also different on the axis. And yes the model 12 has more aftermarket support. I'm not saying an axis is a bad rifle, but it is a totally different rifle. Some of the things above could be considered a plus for the axis depending on what your doing with it.
 
ohihunter2014 said:
I'm just hoping that the little guy in white and halo on my right shoulder saying NO, NO you don't need another rifle grabs a pillow case and mugs the little red guy so he will shut up! Yes, yes!!! buy the rifle maybe two or three!!!

":evil:You know that new rifle might not have the short throat hiccup that that axis does and you have been wanting something nicer :evil:"

See there he goes again!!! :eek::uhoh:
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All you need to do is tell yourself it will be cheaper on the Memorial Day sale, did not happen, then say July 4th is coming, then Black Friday, then Christmas.......
 
I have the receipt for mine on my desk, $319 before tax and 100 rebate, so they apparently have more room to go down on them. I still can't believe I got that rifle for that kind of money. They must be playing accounting games to be selling these that cheap.
 
I guess I figured they were trying to clear out those top-bolt-release receivers to make way for their new stocks? Just a guess.
 
Newtosavage said:
Better in the sense that more aftermarket parts are available, including bolt handles, bottom metal, mags, etc. If you can't see much difference then by all means enjoy the Axis. They are good rifles.
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I wasn't trying to be a smart ass I was serious the description and pics didn't show much more. I'm not familiar with the " bottom metal, mags, etc? looked like a plain jane rifle to me. :)
 
someguy2800 said:
The axis II comes with the accutrigger but not the regular one. They are completely different receivers and bolts than the model 12. The axis has the small ejection port on the side of the receiver instead of the open top, the rear of the bolt and the handle is different, the axis has a notch on the bottom of the receiver for a recoil lug vs the recoil lug sandwiched between the barrel nut and receiver on the 12, and the receiver on the axis does not extend back behind the bolt handle so the safety is mounted to the trigger assembly. On the model 12 the receiver extends back into the tang with the safety mounted in the receiver tang. The finish is also different on the axis. And yes the model 12 has more aftermarket support. I'm not saying an axis is a bad rifle, but it is a totally different rifle. Some of the things above could be considered a plus for the axis depending on what your doing with it.
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honestly didn't know that. Sorry if my OP came off a condescending I really didn't know it was that much different. damn now I want one!!!
 
I walked into Cabelas to look at one. I had almost $200 in Cabelas bucks and could have bought it for around $100 out of pocket after the rebate. But I found this on the used rack and walked out with it instead.

Tikka CTR in 308. Very lightly used and about $200 less than I've seen new ones sell for. It will be more than a week before I'll get a chance to shoot it, but I'm expecting great things.

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I bought my son one a couple years ago. It is chambered in.308 Win. and loves 175 gr bullets. It shoots right with my 10T, even with the cheaper factory stock. (My 10T has the Accustock with aluminum bedding block). I think I paid $319 for his on sale. The older $219 after rebate deal was a steal, frankly, so is this $269 after rebate deal. I am tempted to grab one in 6.5 Creedmore, but am already invested in .308 Win. components for the time being.
 
ohihunter2014 said:
honestly didn't know that. Sorry if my OP came off a condescending I really didn't know it was that much different. damn now I want one!!!
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I didn't take it that way and I really meant that the Axis is a good rifle. There are a lot of happy Axis owners out there. But the 12FV is a different beast. Kinda like a Tundra is to a Tacoma, if that makes sense at all.
 
At that price I would toss the stock and the trigger.....Never been a fan of the accu-trigger. Rifle Basix makes an excellent replacement. I've got a 6XC Model 10 (the only factory part left is the action) and a 223 AI BVSS that shoot much better than I can.......Heck, you can't even buy a beater Savage around here for that price.....let alone a new one. Great investment.....next thing you know you'll have a barrel and action wrench with a bunch of different barrels.
 
If you don't like the blade in the accutrigger just take it out. Takes about a minute and it's free. They work just fine without the blade.
 
I recently discovered that Timney is making a 2-stage trigger for the Tikka. I'll probably get one, as that is what I like so much about the Accutrigger - that two-stage feeling.
 
I bought a similar model a year ago in 308. I replaced the barrel with a Shilen select match in 6mm Rem.
The stock is blind mag, centerfeed, a system which seems as though it were designed by East Germans.
So, I think I am going to buy factory bottom metal and a DBM, I guess that would be the best option, then look for a B&C or H&S stock. Was kind of thinking about the MDS chassis as well I feel a little out of my home waters with this....
 
someguy2800 said:
If you don't like the blade in the accutrigger just take it out. Takes about a minute and it's free. They work just fine without the blade.
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Over the years I've learned to appreciate a fine trigger....The factory Savage trigger isn't good enough for me to bother with. Much easier to just change it out......Plenty of people like them and I can't fault anyone for that. It's a personal preference......$150-$200 for a premium trigger is money well spent in my book.....Shoot, if you could buy the 12FV for $300 and drop a $200 aftermarket trigger in it you'll be way ahead of the game for a pittance.

I only own 2 guns that don't have some kind modifications to the trigger.....whether it be the whole unit or some critical parts....My new GP100 44 special had a surprisingly nice trigger right out of the box and my Kimber Eclipse Custom II has the nicest factory trigger of any 1911 that I've ever shot....and that's a bunch.
 
Damon555 said:
Over the years I've learned to appreciate a fine trigger....The factory Savage trigger isn't good enough for me to bother with. Much easier to just change it out......Plenty of people like them and I can't fault anyone for that. It's a personal preference......$150-$200 for a premium trigger is money well spent in my book.....Shoot, if you could buy the 12FV for $300 and drop a $200 aftermarket trigger in it you'll be way ahead of the game for a pittance.

I only own 2 guns that don't have some kind modifications to the trigger.....whether it be the whole unit or some critical parts....My new GP100 44 special had a surprisingly nice trigger right out of the box and my Kimber Eclipse Custom II has the nicest factory trigger of any 1911 that I've ever shot....and that's a bunch.
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Well the hardware is there to make it as nice as you want it to be by adding a couple shims, replacing the springs, and taking the blade out. To each his own I guess.
 
When they were on sale a while back for 319, and 100 dollar rebate you could walk out of the store for just under 249, as shipping was free as well. Sales tax and thats it. I got the .223 and the .308. You can get a small insert that converts to a single shot if you prefer, or buy bottom metal and a DBM stock. Easiest is to get the MDT chassis and a couple mags. The internal mag stays with the old stock. Put the action in the MDT and you are good to go.

As is, the .223 shot under MOA at 100 yards while warming it up first time. This was with Nightforce Rail, Burris Extreme Signature rings and a 299.00 SWFA 12 X 42 scope, Bald Eagle rest and Protektor rear bag With 69 grain SMK and Varget, 1/2 MOA was quite doable. This gun is hardly broken in, maybe 150 rounds? Lots of fun for little money. Just getting geared up for the .308.

I did add the Savage tactical bolt. That bolt nut is on super tight!

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mshootnit said:
I bought a similar model a year ago in 308. I replaced the barrel with a Shilen select match in 6mm Rem.
The stock is blind mag, centerfeed, a system which seems as though it were designed by East Germans.
So, I think I am going to buy factory bottom metal and a DBM, I guess that would be the best option, then look for a B&C or H&S stock. Was kind of thinking about the MDS chassis as well I feel a little out of my home waters with this....
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whats a DBM?
 
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