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Hamrick v. President Bush, et al, et al, U.S. Supreme Court, No. 04-1150; has been distributed for Conference on April 1, 2005. That means on April 1 the Supreme Court will either deny my Petition for Writ of Certiorari or grant it.
http://www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/04-1150.htm

The plaintiff Hamrick, [ME!], a U.S. merchant seaman, does not have an attorney. This is the second time I have been to the U.S. Supreme Court as a pro se plaintiff. The NRA has refused to help on both occassions in my 3-year battle with the courts and the government over my right to travel intrastate and interstate will openly armed for personal safety and security.

The NRA, the Second Amendment Foundation, and KeepAndBearArms.com have apparently imposed a news blackout on my Second Amendment case. My case for open carry handgun nationwide conflicts with their political agenda for national reciprocity for concealed carry. Go figure.

The federal judges and the U.S. Supreme Court have done everything they can to obstruct my progress in the Courts. The DC Circuit and the U.S. Supreme Court have denied my statutory right to file my appeals as a seaman under the Seamen's Suit law, 28 U.S.C. § 1916 and extorted their filing fees from me to the amount of $1,066. I am slamming the federal judicial system and the U.S. Department of Justice with allegations of corruption until they have no choice but to act accordingly or they may just continue ignoring my filings.

The Rule 11 (before judgment of the DC Circuit, Case No. 04-5316) Petition for Writ of Certiorari is excerpted as follows:

Questions Presented For Review

A. The Scope of the Second Amendment as an Individual Right

Whether the scope of the Second Amendment as an individual right (avoided by the U.S. Department of Justice in their Memorandum Opinion for the Attorney General, titled, Whether the Second Amendment Secures an Individual Right, dated August 24, 2004, but nevertheless determined it to be an individual right) extends that individual right to be openly armed (holstered sidearm) in intrastate and interstate travel, whether licensed or not.

Whether the U.S. Department of Justice's Memorandum Opinion on the Second Amendment provides the basis to overturn Judge Ellen Segal Huvelle of the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia's dismissal with prejudice of Petitioner's Case Nos. 02-1434 (Constitutional Tort Claims for Damages) and 02-1435 (Writ of Mandamus); and Judge Reggie B. Walton of the same court's dismissal with prejudice of Petitioner's RICO Act Case No. 03-2160

Whether the Second, Ninth, and Tenth Amendment must now be incorporated with the rest of the Bill of Rights through the Fourteenth Amendment as binding upon the States.

Whether the "United States" being omitted in the second sentence of Section 1 of the Fourteenth Amendment gives the United States government the power to make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States or shall deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law or deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

B. Stare Decisis Based on United States v. Miller 307 U.S. 174 (1939).

Whether stare decisis based on Miller must now be abandoned.

C. The U.S. Merchant Seaman & the Second Amendment

Whether 33 CFR § 104.220 imposes an unacceptable risk of injury or death for unarmed crew members performing security duties in accordance with the International Ship & Port Security (ISPS) Code, Safety of Life at Sea (SOLAS) XI-2, and the Maritime Transportation Security Act (MTSA) 2002 and whether such crew members must be armed in the performance of such security duties.

Whether the following laws compel the Coast Guard to issue the Petitioner the requested National Open Carry Handgun or Small Arms and Light Weapons endorsement on his Merchant Mariner's Document (MMD) when the Able Seaman is required by U.S. Government regulations to attend small arms training as a prerequisite for employment aboard U.S. Government vessels in accordance with 46 U.S.C. § 7306(a)(3) and that Able Seaman is not a prohibited person from owning or possessing firearms under 18 U.S.C. § 922(g), et seq.:

(1) Section 611 of the Coast Guard and Maritime Transportation Act of 2004 (Public Law No. 108-293, August 9, 2004), authorizing and establishing the Merchant Mariners Documents Pilot Program which states: "The Secretary of the department in which the Coast Guard is operating may conduct a pilot program to demonstrate methods to improve processes and procedures for issuing merchant mariners' documents.";

(2) Section 217 of that same Act adds new Subsection (y) to 14 U.S.C. § 93 for "General Powers of the Commandant" which states: "after informing the Secretary, make such recommendations to the Congress relating to the Coast Guard as the Commandant considers appropriate."; (NOTE: The Coast Guard has refused my proposal for such a program involving the firearms endorsement - I am now study the Title 6 of the U.S. Code: Department of Homeland Security to see which laws are being violated by the U.S. Coast Guard for the refusal to safeguard our Constitutional rights to the fullest limit of the Constitution)

(3) Paperwork Reduction Act, 44 U.S.C. § 3501, et seq.;

(4) OPNAVINST 3591.1C Small Arms Training and Qualification;

(5) ATF Form 4473 Firearms Transaction Record;

(6) The Oath of Office Form CG-9556 (Rev. 6-04).

D. Government Racketeering and the Second Amendment.

Whether U.S. Supreme Court committed extortion under 18 U.S.C. § 872 as a predicate act of "racketeering activity" under the RICO Act under 18 U.S.C. § 1961(1) and whether the Supreme Court violated its own Rule 40(2) in addition to violating the Seamen's Suit law, 28 U.S.C. § 1916 by requiring the Petitioner to pay the Court's filing fee as a condition before accepting Petitioner's Petition for Writ of Certiorari as filed.

Whether the U.S. Court of Appeals for the DC Circuit committed extortion under 18 U.S.C. § 872 as a predicate act of "racketeering activity" under the RICO Act under 18 U.S.C. § 1961(1) and whether the DC Circuit violated the Seamen's Suit law by requiring the Petitioner to pay their filing fee before the DC Circuit would accept Petitioner's appeals.

Whether PACER fees are exempt from payment by U.S. seamen under 28 U.S.C. § 1916. And whether the federal courts must inform PACER of the exemption on motion to the court or whether PACER must comply with 28 U.S.C. § 1916 on its own accord upon presentment of a U.S. Merchant Mariner's Document or copy thereof as proof of identity as a seaman by the Plaintiff/Petitioner.

E. The Second Amendment v. International Treaties & Conventions

Whether treaties with or conventions of the U.N. Conference on the Illicit Trade in Small Arms and Light Weapons in All its Aspects and the Programme of Action resulting thereof in conjunction with the U.N. Department of Disarmament Affairs' Disarmament Agenda for the 21st Century (DDA Occasional Papers No. 6, October 2002) and in conjunction with the U.N.'s International Maritime Organization's Maritime Safety Committee's Piracy and Armed Robbery Against Ships: Guidance to Shipowners and Ship Operators on Preventing and Suppressing Acts of Piracy and Armed Robbery Against Ships (MSC/Circ.623/Rev.3 dated May 29, 2002)'s anti-gun recommendations in paragraphs 45 and 46 can rule supreme over, even though repugnant to, the United States Constitution and its Second Amendment threatening to deny U.S. merchant seamen their Second Amendment right keep and bear arms in the United States.

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Appendix C: Evidence of Obstruction of Justice, Withholding Evidence, Subverting Justice for Political Gain, Violating Petitioner's Right to Due Process, etc. by the U.S. Department of Justice

(Compare with Appendix I: The Ninth Circuit's Interim Report: Task Force on Self-Represented Litigants Comments on the Ninth Circuit pro se Task Force Report By: Charles W. Heckman, Dr. Sci. A Matter of Justice Coalition (AMOJ) Committee for the Ninth Circuit)

[[[[Omitting the Chronology from the Petition for Writ of Certiorari and substituting the expanded Chronology I used in my Motion for Sanctions against the government Assistant U.S. Attorney herein]]]]

CHRONOLOGY CONCERNING THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT'S
WITHOLDING EVIDENCE FROM THE DISTRICT COURT
IN THE MATTER OF THEIR MEMORANDUM OPINION TITLED,
"WHETHER THE SECOND AMENDMENT SECURES AN INDIVIDUAL RIGHT"

OCTOBER 21, 2003. I filed my RICO Act case for the Second Amendment at the U.S. District Court for DC (No. 03-2160). Alan Burch, Assistant U.S. Attorney from the U.S. Attorney's Office in Washington, DC (555 4TH ST., NW).

JUNE 2, 2004. Almost 7.5 months since I filed my case Alan Burch is "Terminated" (word used in the Docket Report) and was replaced by Dennis Barghaan, "Special Attorney" from the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Western District of Virginia in Alexandria under 28 U.S.C. 515 (out of jurisdiction U.S. Attorney). The Plaintiff alleges that the switch of defense attorneys has a direct bearing on the impending internal release of the Justice Department’s Memorandum Opinion titled, Whether the Second Amendment Secures an Individual Right on August 24, 2004, just 83 days away. Something had to be done to prevent the Plaintiff from using that Memorandum Opinion as evidence in the District Court. So, the Justice Department brounght in a hatchet man to expedite the dismissal of Plaintiff’s case before the expected release date of the Memorandum Opinion. This implies a conspiracy against the due process rights of the Plaintiff in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 241. Plaintiff alleges that the sole purpose for the switch in defense attorneys is to effectively deny the Plaintiff his right to use the Justice Department’s upcoming Memorandum Opinion on the Second Amendment as evidence supporting his case.

JUNE 21, 2004. Dennis Barghaan filed the Motion to Dismiss just 19 days after replacing Alan Burch. Plaintiff observes that the Department of Justice was going to internally release their Memorandum Opinion on August 24, 2004 which is just 64 days from June 21. Plaintiff has 60 days to respond to the Motion to Dismiss. If Dennis Barghaan had prior knowledge of the Department of Justice’s Memorandum Opinion it is the Appellant’s belief that he had a duty to inform the court of the impended release of this Memorandum Opinion because it had a direct impact upon the case at hand. If Dennis Barghaan did not have prior knowledge then the duty fell upon the Department of Justice to inform Dennis Barghaan of the impending release of the Memorandum Opinion because it was and is admissible evidence affecting the integrity of the governments argument against the Plaintiff/Appellant. The fact that the existence of the Memorandum Opinion was never made known to the District Court or to the DC Circuit or even to the Plaintiff, that the Plaintiff learned of the Memorandum Opinion through his Internet news links implies a deliberate attempt to subvert justice. The Appellant alleges that the timing of Dennis Barghaan’s Motion to Dismiss occurring jut 64 days before the internal release o the Memorandum implies prior knowledge calculated to unjustly defeat Appellant’s case at the District Court. The Appellant further alleges that Dennis Barghaan’s obstructive tactics are meant to harass or to cause unnecessary delay or needless increase in the cost of litigation and Dennis Barghaan’s denials of factual contentions are not warranted on the evidence or, if specifically so identified, are not reasonably based on a lack of information or belief because the Appellant has now identified the Memorandum Opinion as admissible evidence and there can be no lack of information on the Second Amendment as an individual right because it was the duty of the Justice Department to inform Dennis Barghaan of the Memorandum Opinion. That fact that this was not done implies an intentional violation of Rule 11(b)(1) and Rule 11(b)(4) of the Federal Rules of Evidence.

JULY 12, 2004. The Justice Department issues a press release stating that Paul D. Clement was will serve as acting Solicitor General.

JULY 15, 2004. The judge, Reggie B. Walton, denies my Motion for Change of Venue.

AUGUST 10, 2004. My Objection to Motion to Dismiss filed out of time (because Kinkos lost my emailed Objection due to a virus attack. But Dennis Barghaan in a footnote in his rebuttal did not oppose my filing out of time).

AUGUST 16, 2004. Dennis Barghaan files his rebuttal to my objection.

AUGUST 16, 2004. Wasting no time Judge Reggie B. Walton grants Motion to Dismiss just 8 days before the internal release of the Justice Department’s Memorandum Opinion. A job well done by Dennis Barghaan. Does Judge Walton actually read these motions?

AUGUST 24, 2004. Relevant Evidence Concealed from the Court & Plaintiff. U.S. Department of Justice internally published their Memorandum Opinion for the Attorney General John Ashcroft titled, Whether the Second Amendment Secures an Individual Right. The Department of Justice did not release the Memorandum Opinion to the public until mid-December 2004, for obvious political gain until well after the presidential election in November. That Memorandum Opinion is documentary evidence, a government record under 28 U.S.C. § 1733 and is admissible as evidence because under Rule 704 of the Federal Rules of Evidence the Memorandum Opinion becomes an Opinion on an Ultimate Issue because it embraces an ultimate issue to be decided by the trier of fact. [Rule 406 Habit/Routine Practice]

AUGUST 27, 2004. Plaintiff filed Notice of Appeal.

AUGUST 27, 2004. On this date President Bush issues Executive Order 13353 Establishing the President's Board on Safeguarding Americans' Civil Liberties. The Deputy Attorney General James Comey is appointed as Chairman. However, there may exist a conflict of interest with this appointment. In the May 21, 2001 edition of U.S. News & World Report then U.S. Attorney James Comey is reported to have said “To us gun possession itself is a crime of violence†in discussing Virginia’s Project Exile program. James Comey’s position against the Second Amendment as an individual right back then does not exactly square with his appointment to the President’s Board on Safeguarding American Civil Liberties. At best it compares more accurately to a Trojan Horse tactic for an undisclosed agenda.

SEPTEMBER 9, 2004. Appellant filed his Appellant's Brief at the DC Circuit.

SEPTEMBER 14, 2004. Appellant filed Motion for Permissive Intervention By The President’s Board on Safeguarding Americans’ Civil Liberties And Other Third Parties & Motion for Appeal Conference. The DC Circuit has not yet ruled on this motion or any motion for judicial notice of adjudicative facts or presumptions in general that the Plaintiff has filed. Copy of this motion was FedEx’d to the Deputy Attorney General James Comey as Chairman of that civil liberties board. No response has yet been received. This is not a very good track record for the Government on protecting the civil liberties of the American people when the federal courts and the Executive Branch treats a pro se Plaintiff in such a manner.

OBSERVATION FROM TIMELINE: Alan Burch was almost 7.5 months (225 days) as defense \counsel and hadn't filed the Motion to Dismiss. He was under Ted Olson as Solicitor General. Dennis Barghaan took a fast 2 months, 3 weeks, 4 days (75 days total) to get Judge Reggie B. Walton to dismissed the Plaintiff’s case with prejudice. It is the Appellant’s understanding that if evidence does not get admitted into the record at the District Court then that evidence cannot be submitted at the Appellant level. However, the ethical conduct of Dennis Barghaan and the Justice Department can be submitted as evidence of a conspiracy to subvert justice and for other allegations which can lead the DC Circuit in overturning the District Courts dismissal with prejudice.
THERE YOU HAVE IT! AS PAUL HARVEY SAYS, "THE REST OF THE STORY."

My case probably was the determining factor in the U.S. Department of Justice not publicizing their Memorandum Opinion on the Second Amendment until after the November elections. And my impact on this matter is now exposed for all to see! The U.S. Government will admit the truth but will still litigative as though it was not the truth. What more evidence do you want that we are living under tyranny? Tyranny from not only the U.S. Government but from Second Amendment groups who refuse to be an advocate for the individual in the same fight as they but for a different agenda? The tyranny of groupthink!

Are you now willing to set an appointment to discuss settlement of this case?

Email From Dennis Barghaan to Don Hamrick


Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2005 09:14:26 -0500 (EST)
From: Dennis.Barghaan
To: Don Hamrick <[email protected]>

Subject: RE: Hamrick v. President Bush: Your Motion for Summary Affirmation DESTROYED!

Mr. Hamrick --

Pursuant to your request, I am not willing to set an appointment to discuss settlement of this case.
Dennis Barghaan

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:banghead: Why am I not getting help from the NRA, the Second Amendment
Foundation? Why are they not posting news reports on my case at
KeepAndBearArms.com?

:banghead: Their silence is known to the Courts and the Courts are embolden to
keep my case out of the Courts for that very reason. No publicity? No
justice!

Signed: Don Hamrick
 
I don't know anything about your case, but I am very concerned that you don't have a lawyer. If your case is heard, it will effect the rest of us, good or bad.
 
Have you asked the NRA Legal dept. for help?

Perhaps if we were to all ask on your behalf as well...
 
I think the tinfoil hat vendors will be gearing up for big sales here shortly.... ;)
 
You Need A Good Lawyer

I HOPE YOUR NOT REALLY GOING BEFORE THE S.C.O.T.U.S WITHOUT A GOOD LAWYER/TEAM OF LAWYERS!! :cuss:

If you lose (likely without good lawyers)
you might screw it up for everyone....
I don't have any $$ to contribute but I will pray for you


didn't Miller fail to have a lawyer? did it do us any good?
 
Why, in God' name, representing oneself such a bad thing? I am not bound by the lawyer's protocol to the Court. I have greater leeway in presenting my case.

http://www.caught.net/prose/everyam.htm

How often we hear, "He who represents himself has a fool for a client." To that I say, "He who is represented is usually taken for a fool." Read some of our history regarding self representation.-- Richard Wayne

Every American A Lawyer
by Ralph Warner, Publisher
Copyright © Nolo Press

Almost 400 years ago, the great American democratic experiment began. Almost from the first day--and despite the contrary views of a succession of English monarchs--it assumed that an educated citizenry had no need of lawyers to write its laws or solve its disputes.

Lawyers were actually banned outright or faced tight restrictions in many colonies for much of the 18th century. Especially in Puritan New England, Quaker communities in Pennsylvania and Dutch settlements in New York, colonists firmly believed that disputes were best solved within the community, often by church-sponsored mediation.

The "Body of Liberties" adopted by the Massachusetts Bay Colony in 1641 expressed the typical attitudes of the time:

"Every man that findeth himselfe unfit to plead his own cause in any court shall have libertie to employ any man ..., provided he give him noe fee or reward for his pain."

In the late 17th and early 18th centuries, after English kings reasserted direct political authority over the colonies, England's common law system--complete with courts, juries and lawyers--crossed the ocean. Even so, most citizens did not rely on lawyers for legal information. Historian Eldon Revere James found that between 1687 and 1788, not a single legal treatise intended for lawyers was published in America. During that period, all the legal treatises were for laymen.

One of the most popular self-help law books of the time, Every Man His Own Lawyer, published in London, was already in its ninth edition in 1784. Another, Every Man His Own Attorney, by Thomas Wooler (1845), which apparently was widely and effectively used for many years, contains a lament that could have been penned yesterday:

"Much has been recently done, to simplify ... practice in the courts; something has been gained in point of expedition; but little, if anything, in the reduction of the expense ... Useless proceedings are still required, apparently for no other purpose than to extract money from pockets of the unfortunate suitors. Forms, the pretenses for which have been long exploded, are pertinaciously adhered to ... and while this is the case, legal proceedings will remain characterised by an uncertainty of result, a loss of time, and a ruinous expense, which should induce every one to learn as effectually as possible to guard against a seduction into its labyrinths, or, if entangled in them, to make the most easy and expeditious escape."

The strong tradition that each American should be able to master the laws probably peaked in the years between Andrew Jackson's inauguration in 1825 and Abraham Lincoln's death in 1865. Most states enforced few if any restrictions on non-lawyers appearing in court on behalf of others--as Lincoln himself did before he talked a judge into granting him attorney status.

Given America's long tradition of discouraging lawyers, it's surprising that in the 20th century the legal profession so successfully sold Americans on its favorite public relations slogan, "A man who represents himself has a fool for a client." And it's even more surprising that without great opposition, the American Bar Association convinced states to pass "unauthorized practice of law" statutes in the 1920s and 1930s, which effectively gave lawyers a monopoly over the sale of legal information.

It is less surprising--at least to everyone who isn't an attorney--that in the last two decades many Americans--battered women, small businesspeople, landlords, inventors and disenfranchised fathers, to mention just a few--have begun to assert their historical and constitutional right to participate in the legal decisions that affect their lives.

Unfortunately, the Bar--despite the fact that its leaders concede that at least 100 million Americans can't afford lawyers--continues to resist this powerful democratic trend. The fact that lawyers won't voluntarily relinquish their legal monopoly goes far to explain why the profession is ridiculed by so many Americans.
 
It's probably worth noting here that Michael Newdow did very well for himself acting as his own attorney. Made it all the way to SCOTUS, and they punted on a technicality, probably out of fear of his case.
 
didn't Miller fail to have a lawyer? did it do us any good?

Wrong. Miller died before his hearing before the Supreme Court. Lacking a client to represent, his lawyer didn't bother to appear.
 
Who cares if he has a lawyer or not? I certainly don't. The USSC rules any which way they want, and hand pick an appropriate case so they can use it as pretext for their ruling. If the USSC takes his case up, it's because they're *ready*.


In which case... :what:
 
I support him and his case. I hope if the robes take it on, they give him time
to state his case so it can be understood correctly. I would like to see just
where the USSC stands on what our Fore Fathers fought and died for.

Freedom doesn't come free..Win or lose, at least we'll know where we stand.
 
I hope his case is denied.

I do not want the current court anywhere near a 2nd amendment case. As long as they are in the business of finding rights that are not written and consulting foreign law to interpret our constitution, they need to be kept far, far away from the 2nd amendment.

Someone had better throw a blanket over these people or we will regret their actions in the future.
 
You lost me from section "D" on. Maybe you ought to pick your strongest issue and stay with that, but then, what do I know?
 
I have to agree; this is a bad idea. The current court is 5 to 4 a bunch of internationalists, and the 4 we've got aren't that reliable. We need to put 3 or 4 new Constitutionalist justices in before we have a chance.

No lawyers is stupid. Yes, I know we have too many lawyers in society but if you don't fight fire with fire you will get burned.

I hope the SCOTUS doesn't take this as an opportunity to decide that we have no Second Amendment rights. :(
 
Surely there's a George Soros-type ON OUR SIDE who can finance this. I can't got too much pro bono work right now and just started my practice anyway.

It's the finer points we want to make sure you cover correctly. Been forever since I read _Miller_, but I believe there was not even any evidence received of militia use of short-barreled shotguns at the trial court level.

NOTE THIS WELL--
The res judicata value of _Miller_ is minimal because it was NOT fully and fairly litigated. The decision itself reads, IIRC, "In the absence of any evidence..." but is notably lacking is the usual butt-chewing jurists' notations about the unsuccessful appellant having every chance to "marshall the evidence" and failed to do so and so "we'll just punt and rely on the findings of fact [hahahaha!] of the lower court because they were supported by substantial evidence" and so forth.

DON'T MAKE BAD PRECEDENT!
 
What would be the difference between the USSC deciding against the 2nd Amend in this case vs. a case brought before them by the best trained lawyers in the country? Either they believe the 2nd Amendment is an individual right or they don't. I'm pretty certain their minds have already been made up. They've just been too cowardly to actually address the issue.
 
That is why I presented my case in the manner it is stated: :neener: Full frontal assault, in their face!
 
Their is also the Federalism argument: Whether the Supreme Court is the only branch of government who has the right to interpret the Constitution.

Their is the argument that the Supreme Court is NOT the final word on the interpretation of the Constitution. That the U.S. Department of Justice also has the right and the power to interpret the Constitution along with the People by the election process, by public demonstrations and protest.

Such is my case now at the Supreme Court: My interpretation vs. the Supreme Court's interpretation.
 
Why, in God' name, representing oneself such a bad thing?

Because you're representing yourself in front of lawyers, who as a class tend to get seriously ticked if somebody tries to assert their rights without paying them appropriate tribute, and, ideally, doing a lot of sucking up.

In this case, I don't think it matters one bit. They are almost certainly going to deny certiori, without comment. If they DO by some miracle take the case, the legal issues are clear enough that a bright high school student could study over the weekend, and present a clear enough argument for our side that an honest court would have no choice about how to rule.

If they take the case, he'll be offered some of the most powerful legal aid in the country, pro bono, and 50,000 pages of amicus briefs will land on the steps of the Supreme court the next day. And then the "Justices" will rule the same as if none of it was ever presented, because they've already either made up their minds, or will be up to speed on the subject before the oral arguments.

Whether it's prudent or not, he's damned well got the right to stand up for his rights in court, and even argue his case himself. That's why it's called a "right", Furious.
 
DIRECTED TO FURIOUS: What the hell are you talking about?

The United States has most people per capita in prison than any nation on Earth.

United States 686 per 100,000
Russia 685
China 111

What is your definition of tyranny? Despotism? Oppression?

I have been researching my case, the law, and current political events for the last 3 years since I began this litigious fight. You are speaking out of ignorance compared to my case.
 
Their is also the Federalism argument: Whether the Supreme Court is the only branch of government who has the right to interpret the Constitution.

Their is the argument that the Supreme Court is NOT the final word on the interpretation of the Constitution. That the U.S. Department of Justice also has the right and the power to interpret the Constitution along with the People by the election process, by public demonstrations and protest.

Such is my case now at the Supreme Court: My interpretation vs. the Supreme Court's interpretation.

While I make it a point not to play grammar/spelling cop, as I'm far from perfect proofing my own posts, I have a hard time placing a Supreme Court argument in the hands of a person who doesn't use there/their/they're properly.

This could either be very good for us or very, very, very bad.

Put me in the camp of those who say that the time is not right. We need to see who Bush puts up for nomination for Justice before we push this issue.
 
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