Shooting a pistol one-handed

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My experience is that when I was first learning to shoot handguns, shooting two-handed was a virtual necessity to be able to get the gun into position, stabilize it, and not freak out at the concussion and sonic boom of live fire.

Now that I'm better practiced, inured to the shock of live fire, my hands strengthened and my muscles trained, I shoot one-handed most of the time.

But for someone who practices as little as you posit (equivalent to approx. one 10-round magazine once a month), I feel that the advantages (to such a person) of two-handed shooting would outweigh any possible disadvantages.

IMHO
 
I just know when I was growing up I was taught if a pistol was meant to be shot with two hands it would have two handles on it.:)
 
I suspect a self defense situation is likely to involve one hand shooting.

My instructor regularly has us shooting at a target 10 yards away with one hand, both weak and strong. When the target is at "bad breath" distances, we shoot with one hand. Sometimes an entire afternoon of shooting is done using one hand.

Based on my training, losing the function of a hand is just one reason to have these skills. There are techniques for shooting from concealment that require one handed shooting. They expose a lot less of me than shooting with two hands around a barrier.

For me at least, shooting with my weak hand has improved my shooting in general. May have something to do with my right brain hemisphere getting to play.
 
2 ideas

1) Shoot at 2yds or so and back up a half-step or so with each shot. Confidence is a very important factor.
2) If you are practicing one-handed in addition to two-handed for purposes of self-defense, ingrain the one-handed retention hold in your muscle memory. Just pull the elbow back, wrist is basically under the armpit...flex your whole back and chest and squeeze off a shot. It will hit what your right toe is pointing at (at the level of your hand obviously) :)
 
Your stance & grip have NOTHING to do with shooting low left (as a right handed shooter). It's all trigger control & flinching.

One handed at 5 yds vs. Weaver at 10 is hardly a good comparison- especially for a new shooter as the doubling of the distance to the target will have a huge impact on confidence & will considerably magnify any errors. From what I've seen increasing distance will exponentially increase group size with most shooters. Good at 3 yards but 0 for 10 at 10 yards on a paper plate is pretty common.
 
That part, at least, doesn't match my experience. I've gone through quite a few dry spells with practicing, while in college, and often only had the time to dry fire or use primers and rubber bullets while home for the occasional weekend. Then on spring and Christmas breaks, when I'd get a chance to actually shoot, my flinch would come back and my recoil control would be off, and it'd take 50 to 100 rounds or so to get back to normal.

well, that's just a lack of practice. When I say dry fire, I mean 50-100 reps a night before bed (respect safety rules!), not once a month. Once a month sucks no matter what if you don't do anything the rest of the time.

E.G., 60 reps two-handed, 10 reps right handed retention, 10 reps left hand. Work on followthrough, maybe use sm's trick of balancing a dime on the barrel.
 
If you can only shoot 50 live rounds a year, you'd better have 50,000 dry fires behind that. An exaggeration, but you get my point.

I started one handed with an H&R .22 revolver and couldn't hit squat at 15 yards (10/50 or so), and was really discouraged. A couple of years later I learned about proper grip and stance and began shooting two handed. Within 3 cylinders I could keep all of the shots on target no problem.

It's been 6 years or so now on and off, I got good shooting two handed, and now I'm just starting to really get back into one handed shooting. When i first started, same thing- couldn't hit anything one handed.

Solved that with A LOT of dry fire. Dry fired until I could keep any of my revolvers on target the whole time at 15 yards as fast as I could run the trigger.

Strong side I'm able to keep all shots from an SP101 with 158 gn LSWCHP over 15.0 of 2400 on an 8.5x11 as fast as i can run the trigger at 15 yards. Working on getting them all onto a half sheet, but to get onto a full sheet was almost all dry fire and trigger control practice.

Weak side, I'm on an 11x17 working on an 8.5x11. Weak side has been quite a bit more work than i was expecting, but large amounts of dry fire is helping out there as well.

Happy shooting, but I'd live fire two handed and dry fire one handed with an occaisonal live fire exercise if I only made it to the range once a month and shot 10 rounds. Hitting is more important than style, and most people hit more easily two handed with less practice.
 
I was planning on hopefully testing out for myself what'd happen if I shoot a now-unfamiliar gun, with unfamiliar ammo (never ran fullhouse 158 gr ammo through my SP-101 before), using an unfamiliar stance (can't do modern iso with a revolver), and see just how much skill I lose under those circumstances, with 1 hand vs. 2.

Unfortunately, then I went into a Wal-Mart and the shelves were bare. Next stop, the gun store, and .357s were $40 for 50! I'm not paying $40 just to see if I'm right about something!

I guess I will have to concede that at very low skill / familiarity levels, the stability and accuracy of 2 hands trumps the maybe slightly reduced chance of screwing things up under stress with one hand.

However, it is still important to practice one-handed shooting in the event that you need your other hand for something.

One handed at 5 yds vs. Weaver at 10 is hardly a good comparison- especially for a new shooter as the doubling of the distance to the target will have a huge impact on confidence & will considerably magnify any errors.

I did try 5 yards two-handed though, head to head with Shooting to Live. StL got me maybe 3/4 of my rounds in a 2" cluster, the rest within a 4" circle. Two handed weaver with the same "through the gun" aiming method, at 5 yards was something around a 6" pattern, with... IIRC, 3 shots were completely MIA. I think I may have been yanking my left hand to try and compensate for the recoil.
 
I think one handed shooting ought to be mastered at close ranges in the form of point shooting drills.

One is a sort of snap shot, or two, where the target is say 4 to 6 feet away. The handgun is drawn, or from low ready, and fired as soon as it is centered on the target. Precision is not the goal here, just a fast one, then two, shots into the target area. Begin with one, then progress to two.

Go slow. Develope the drill with slow, deliberate, fluid, continuous motion from start to the shot. Then, and only then, slowly increase speed. If desired distance can then be increased as well.

The other is the "speed rock"; which is already an accepted one hand technique for contact distances.
 
I was planning on hopefully testing out for myself what'd happen if I shoot a now-unfamiliar gun, with unfamiliar ammo (never ran fullhouse 158 gr ammo through my SP-101 before), using an unfamiliar stance (can't do modern iso with a revolver), and see just how much skill I lose under those circumstances, with 1 hand vs. 2.

I still don't understand if this is all hypothetical or if you really are strapped for cash and that's why you're asking, and either way don't understand the point. That's ok though.
 
I think that if you are only shooting 50 rounds a year you are spending too much time dreaming about possible techniques and their effects on your group sizes. Just go shooting more often and you will find out what works best for you in real life.
 
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I still don't understand if this is all hypothetical or if you really are strapped for cash and that's why you're asking, and either way don't understand the point. That's ok though.

The point is that I suspect that someone who has little to no practice with a particular gun and ammo, will do very poorly. Either one hand or two, either way, they're going to do really badly. Under those circumstances, the absence of a 2nd hand may reduce the chances of operator error (other hand interferes with cylinder or slide), and of yanking too hard with the support hand and shooting low.

And I have a gun which I haven't shot in over a year, and which I cannot shot with my usual technique without my thumb getting cut off by the cylinder gap blast. If I were to test that theory, I might be able to, given that I'm likely going to have very low proficiency with that gun compared to my usual carry pieces, which I've got over 800 rounds stashed away for, and maybe a couple thousand rounds downrange with (compared with about 200 shots, tops, fired through the SP-101, and that was a very long time ago).

However, there's no way I'm paying $40 for 50 shots of .357 magnum ammo, as I have no .357 (or even .38s) on hand, and no bullets to handload, either.
 
Many people have already posted that it's easier to hit with TWO hands on the gun than one hand, especially the less experienced shooters. Your argument that one hand is easier or better than two has no basis whatsoever in fact.

If cost is that much of an issue (and it is !) then reload and/or buy a .22 or even a pellet/BB gun to practice with.

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This is for someone who does not have the money, time, or dedication necessary to develop much proficiency with the usual two-hand grip.

Personally, I do not like the idea of people carrying on the same streets as me who lack the dedication to practice. Time, money... often out of your control.

BUT... it is irresponsible to carry a gun and not be dedicated to practing and being proficient.

Unless of course you meant you are dedicated to all other forms of practice other then two handed.

I shoot two handed, strong hand and support hand everytime I go to the range. And, I only bring 50 rounds... 100 if I am lucky.
 
Ryan, as I read your posts I can't avoid the conclusion that you have some fundamental misconceptions about shooting. I strongly suggest saving your money and getting some solid, professional instruction. There is really no good substitute for having a qualified instructor watch you and comment on what you're doing.

Let me mention where I'm coming from. I'm an NRA certified instructor in Basic Handgu, Personal Protection Inside the Home, Personal Protection Outside the Home and shotgun. I teach with a group of other instructors, and we have put on regular Basic Handgun class pretty much every other month. The class is ten hours or so. Very few of our students have handled, let alone shot, a gun prior to the class. At the end of the class every student (except for one I know of recently) is shooting 2 to 3 inch groups at seven yards with a variety of guns -- from a .22 to a .44 magnum.

I've also had a fair amount of training myself, including a couple of classes at Gunsite, a class with Louis Awerbuck and one with Massad Ayoob.

A handgun is the most difficult type of firearm to master. And there is no short cut to proficiency. And practice does not make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect. Practicing improper techniques will only ingrain bad habits further eroding your performance.

Shooting low is almost always a sign of poor trigger control. The first principle of accurate shooting is trigger control: a smooth, press straight back on the trigger with only the trigger finger moving. Maintain your focus on the front sight as you press the trigger, increasing pressure on the trigger until the shot breaks. Don't try to predict exactly when the gun will go off nor try to cause the shot to break at a particular moment. This is what Jeff Cooper called the "surprise break."


By keeping focus on the front sight and increasing pressure on the trigger until the gun essentially shoots itself, you don’t anticipate the shot breaking. But if you try to make the shot break at that one instant in time when everything seem steady and aligned, you usually wind up jerking the trigger. Of course the gun will wobble some on the target. Try not to worry about the wobble and don’t worry about trying to keep the sight aligned on a single point. Just let the front sight be somewhere in a small, imaginary box in the center of the target.

Also, work on follow through. Be aware of where on the target the front sight is as the shot breaks and watch the front sight lift off that point as the gun recoils – all the time maintaining focus on the front sight.

And again, let me emphasize that while practice in very important, practice doesn’t make perfect. It’s “PERFECT practice makes perfect.” More frequent practice shooting fewer rounds, but concentrating hard on what you’re doing, will be more productive than less frequent, higher round count practice.

Practice deliberately, making every shot count, to program good habits and muscle memory.

Dry practice is very helpful. You just want to triple check that the gun is not loaded, and there should be no ammunition anywhere around. When engaging in dry practice, religiously follow Rule 2 - Never Let Your Muzzle Cover Anything You Are Not Willing To Destroy." As you dry fire, you want to reach the point where you can't see any movement of the sight as the sear releases and the hammer falls.

Finally, some instruction is always a good idea. I try to take classes from time to time; and I always learn something new.

Think: front sight, press, surprise.
 
hold the gun with one hand, extend like your normal 2 handed position for firing. tilt the gun in with your wrist from 10-45 degrees. It will lock up, and you will manage recoil, and not have limp wrist. I prefer mine at like 20-30. This tilting is towards the inside of the body, not the outside. So, if you are right handed tilt it to the left while keeping the gun straight in line with your arm. Left handed is same except go to the right. Try it out.
 
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I train with two hands left dominent, two hands right hand dominent, one hand each way, and also train to load and put into battery with both hands individually. I also can say if I am out plinking, I shoot at close targets with my left only (Iam a lefty) and with both hands in a typical IPSC grip for any targets at any distance of greater than 10M. I also train both ways with rifle, carbine and shotgun....you never know what will happen.
 
I have found that many students forget it is a handgun and not a handsgun. You can do quite well shooting one handrd as evidenced in force on force training. For some reason once people get two hands on their pistol they tend to get glued in place and forget to move. Could it be that shooting a pistol is the only thing we do with both of our hands extended out in front of us? Funny when the untrained mind of fight or flight gets in a pissing contest with the trained mind who want to draw and shoot.- George
 
:uhoh: not that gangster sideways crap. That is a 90 degree turn. I am talkin half of that or less
 
I am with you kyo, how could it be that easy, to take thousands of years of intuitive pointing and body harmonics and use them effectively under stress instead of figuring out a new way to do it. Damn you.- George
 
I have found that many students forget it is a handgun and not a handsgun. You can do quite well shooting one handrd as evidenced in force on force training. For some reason once people get two hands on their pistol they tend to get glued in place and forget to move. Could it be that shooting a pistol is the only thing we do with both of our hands extended out in front of us? Funny when the untrained mind of fight or flight gets in a pissing contest with the trained mind who want to draw and shoot.- George

Glad you chimed in, George.

I am really tempted to just try it with the guns I do have ammo for, but look at the 10 day forecast here. I'll melt!

http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/16001?from=36hr_topnav_undeclared

Might go this weekend, anyway. If I manage to pick a time that it's overcast but not raining, it'd be a good time to chronograph some loads, too.

At this point, given the relatively small size of the backstop at the local range, I think the fairest tests would be:

Event 1: Standard el presidente drill on 3 targets at ranges of 3, 4, and 5 yards. 6 shots, reload, 6 shots, as fast as possible.

Event 2: Same targets in the same location, but a controlled pair to each one. 6 shots, reload, 6 shots, again.

The second test will probably exaggerate the differences between 1 hand and and 2. The first could make it real close, though...
 
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