Should I say anything about an exposed concealed weapon in public?

[ms6852]

My CCW instructor made a comment that made a lot of common sense. This was based on a question asked whether we should intervene in order to stop a criminal act. His reply was very simple, Conceal Carry is for personal protection of loved ones and oneself. Carrying a handgun does not make us law enforcement officers. We are still civilians let your morality and ethics guide you, but be willing to live with your decision and accept all ramifications that may occur from your decision and indecision.

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

The "three large beers" is of more concern to me than violating some bogus law. If he isn't otherwise acting strangely or suspiciously, I believe I would let it go.

 

[ccsniper]

I was at a local wal mart in the sporting goods section and was waiting on in line to checkout when I noticed the wallet of the guy in front of me sticking out and about 6 one hundred dollar bills were quite visible. I politely informed him and he greatly thanked me. A pistol often costs several hundred bucks and most people would like to know if they valuables are showing.

 

[R.W.Dale]

I can't help but speculate that most of these wardrobe malfunctions are with small of back carriers.

One of the reasons I carry at 2 o-clock is a glance down is all that's needed to verify the status of my cover garment

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[CajunBass]

Again, I am constantly amazed at how seldom "Mind your own business," is the first option.

 

[trex1310]

I would mind my own business which is what this guy would probably
have told you and most likely not in those words. I don't see why you
would want to get in an armed and possibly intoxicated man's
business. It's a no win situation.

If this man was a cop, he already thinks he's above the law by
drinking while armed. His cop pals would most likely cover for
him if something were to happen. Who is going to cover for you?

 

[Old Time Hunter]

Assuming he is a LEO, it is a requirement here in Wisconsin to carry ALL THE TIME.

As far as the consumption of beer, again, here in Wisconsin it would be drawing attention to one's self if he did not imbibe in the scenerio described.

Last and more importantly, with it being totally exposed, it is now legal per state constitution even without CCW. 'Course if the venue is posted "no arms", that could change everything.

Walk up to him and in your best urban vernacular say "yo man, you be hang'n out", if he responds with a smile and thanks you he probably would be LEO.

 

[theautobahn]

All I can tell you is that I would want someone to tell me if I was flashing (my gun) in public. And better to be addressed by a fellow shooter than someone who is going to freak out if they see a gun.

 

[Sam1911]

Pretty simple, really -- and there's so much fear, fearmongering, and hysteria in this thread that its appaling!

Is there ANYTHING in the world wrong with politely mentioning to someone that their weapon is exposed, if it appears they'd been attempting to conceal it? OF COURSE NOT! That's just neighborly. You aren't calling him fat, ugly, stupid, or punching him in the face. You're just being friendly. As other said, a discrete mention that my fly's undone, my slip's showing (like if I'm in drag or something, I guess), I've got something stuck to my face, or my shirt's riding up over my gun -- all greatly and humbly appreciated.

Is there ANY reason to go "tattling" to some law-enforcement officer over this? HEAVENS NO! How did that even become part of this disuccsion? Have we lost our minds?

"Hey, man. Tug your shirt down. Your pistol's showing."

"Oh, ok, thanks!"

...and sit back and enjoy the show. No drama.

Pretty simple.

 

[THowie]

Anyone know if a scenario like this has ever been featured on "What Would You Do?" I wonder what kind of results it would get.

 

[R.W.Dale]

Sam1911 there's a huge difference between walking past someone in the canned goods isle and saying "hi there, you're nuzzle is showing" as you walk by.

Its quite a different dynamic to get up at a concert. Wade through the crowd to get a couple rows up and back in to say "you're pistol is out and I don't think you should be drinking"

One is basic hold the door open curtsey, the other is outright nosiness.

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[Sam1911]

Its quite a different dynamic to get up at a concert. Wade through the crowd to get a couple rows up and back in to say "you're pistol is out and I don't think you should be drinking"

One is basic hold the door open curtsey, the other is outright nosiness.

Reading the OP, he says the guy just happened to be sitting in the row in front of them. I don't see anything about having to wade through the crowd to confront him. Just a quick tap on the shoulder and a whispered word of aid. I just don't see the risk or the harm.

And I don't think commenting on his beers is any of my business. That would be an impolite affront, indeed.

 

[R.W.Dale]

After really reading you are correct Sam it is only one row. But I still stick to mu opinion on the manner simply because of the presence of alcohol.

I would ask myself "do I get any benefit from this action, what can go wrong"

Guy drinking with little concern for the letter of the law. NO I'm sitting back on this one

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[conw]

Sam, I believe the Temperance League consensus is that one would be too flustered to do that and should perhaps tell the guy's Mommy instead.

 

[danez71]

Victimless crime.

I dont go around writing down license plate #s of every one that I see speeding.

I have called police twice when I saw an obvious drunk or impaired driver that couldnt stay in their own lane (1 boucing off curbs and the other on fthe reeway mowing down signs on the side of the road)

Friendly indication he's showing is fine.

If he's wasted and starting fights type of thing... report.

 

[Nushif]

Pretty simple, really -- and there's so much fear, fearmongering, and hysteria in this thread that its appaling!

Is there ANYTHING in the world wrong with politely mentioning to someone that their weapon is exposed, if it appears they'd been attempting to conceal it? OF COURSE NOT! That's just neighborly. You aren't calling him fat, ugly, stupid, or punching him in the face. You're just being friendly. As other said, a discrete mention that my fly's undone, my slip's showing (like if I'm in drag or something, I guess), I've got something stuck to my face, or my shirt's riding up over my gun -- all greatly and humbly appreciated.

Is there ANY reason to go "tattling" to some law-enforcement officer over this? HEAVENS NO! How did that even become part of this disuccsion? Have we lost our minds?

"Hey, man. Tug your shirt down. Your pistol's showing."

"Oh, ok, thanks!"

...and sit back and enjoy the show. No drama.

Pretty simple.

Not much more to it than this. I am usually very surprised about how touchy some of us seem to be.
"Wah! You dared talk to me or approach me about something painfully obvious!"

 

[Certaindeaf]

A haircut costs $8. You might have had words with him. He sounds like a dim bulb so perhaps no loss either way.

 

[Ragnar Danneskjold]

I don't care if he's an LEO or not. I don't give unsolicited advice to other adults. It's rude and condescending. If an adult stranger wants my opinion or wants me to be part of their conversation, they can ask me. Just like I would ask them and expect them not to insert themselves in my business without me asking.

Stay in your lane.

 

[Certaindeaf]

I don't care if he's an LEO or not. I don't give unsolicited advice to other adults. It's rude and condescending. If an adult stranger wants my opinion or wants me to be part of their conversation, they can ask me. Just like I would ask them and expect them not to insert themselves in my business without me asking.

Stay in your lane.

I don't see how one saying you got a boog hanging is advice. It's mere observation.

 

[Serenity]

I would appreciate if someone gave me a head's up (if I lived where unconcealed carry was illegal). Like toilet paper on my shoe or the back of my skirt stuck in my pantyhose. I don't find it rude. BUT I come from a small town where strangers talk to each other; it all depends on context.

 

[berettaprofessor]

I'd want to know.

 

[Sauer Grapes]

I'm in the "MIND YOUR OWN BUSSINESS" camp. I could give a rat's behind if their weapon is showing, or they're carrying in an unlawful place.

 

[oneounceload]

I'm in the "MIND YOUR OWN BUSSINESS" camp. I could give a rat's behind if their weapon is showing, or they're carrying in an unlawful place

+1- too many on here whine about the nanny state of Bloomberg's NYC, yet are thinking along the same lines here

This is a non-issue - you are not his employer and he is not threatening you - leave it alone

 

[Sam1911]

+1- too many on here whine about the nanny state of Bloomberg's NYC, yet are thinking along the same lines here

By offering a polite, discrete, "Hey, your pistol's showing?" That's nanny state stuff? Really?

 

[oneounceload]

Yes, because it is really none of your concern or business whether his gun is showing, only your own. I do not want someone coming up to me ASSUMING they know what the scenario is and then telling me how to conduct myself - (that's the analogy to Bloomie)

Must be nice to be able to ignore laws and drink while carrying.......

Not against the law in many states