One of the things the Sikhs commemorate by wearing a kirpan is the memory of a Sikh master who gave his life indefense of his neighbors, who were not Sikhs. When I knew some of them, their primary ashram was in Espanola, NM. They also trained in the use of firearms with professional instructors. One Sikh knifemaker whose name will be recognised is Jot Singh Khalsa.
Sikhs and guns?
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Henry Bowman
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Adds a new twist to "watch your six" (watch your sikhs) 
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There's one temple out this way, in Fremont Calif, where they keep getting into arguments over who's gonna run it. Cops keep coming out to break up some pretty wild brawls.
BUT, to their credit they've kept it to fists only last I heard, no Kirpans coming out to play.
Other that that, they've mostly been very upright members of society out here and in the US in general.
BUT, to their credit they've kept it to fists only last I heard, no Kirpans coming out to play
.Other that that, they've mostly been very upright members of society out here and in the US in general.
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I guess Sikhs don't carry when they're flying?
I think there was some case law that stated that they couldn't wear turbans in the U.S. Military. Military interest of uniformity outweighs individual's freedom of religion when it comes to the service.
On one hand I concur, but on the other, unlike the Brits, we can't raise regiments like they do (Royal this or that). It could have a proud tradition like that of the 9th or 10th Cavalry or 24th & 25th Infantry (Buffalo Soldiers). It's probably better the way it is right now.
I think there was some case law that stated that they couldn't wear turbans in the U.S. Military. Military interest of uniformity outweighs individual's freedom of religion when it comes to the service.
On one hand I concur, but on the other, unlike the Brits, we can't raise regiments like they do (Royal this or that). It could have a proud tradition like that of the 9th or 10th Cavalry or 24th & 25th Infantry (Buffalo Soldiers). It's probably better the way it is right now.
natedog
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To quote Carlos Mencia on the subject of the Sikh who was killed post-9/11, "Do not be racist and "DUR" on top of racist"
otomik
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i think the kirpan's meaning is more than self-defense but defense of the weak and oppressed actually. they are still allowed to kill evil people, like Indira Gandhi. google search: "operation blue star"
i don't think anyone would disagree that if this religion were founded today they would all be packing heat. I think there's something in Mormonism that also acknowledges the importance of firearms and defense, both come from similar histories.
i don't think anyone would disagree that if this religion were founded today they would all be packing heat. I think there's something in Mormonism that also acknowledges the importance of firearms and defense, both come from similar histories.
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