So, if DC v. Heller goes really well, and we get a President likely to ban, anyway?

[takhtakaal]

Let's say that DC v. Heller produces a decision favorable to at least the removal of the DC ban, and perhaps an end to the Sullivan law in NYC, but we wind up anyway with a President likely to push a worst-case AWB II?

What's going to happen?

 

[RoadkingLarry]

Executive order banning importatin of ammo would be a likely first move.

 

[Old Fuff]

A lot depends on what the Supreme Court says. But if they rule that "the people" have an individual right to own firearms, bans are going to be very difficult to pass muster, especially at the federal level. What they may more likely do is go for what they are now calling "reasonable regulation," and we all know what that would look like.

Eventually the Court will have to decide what is or isn't reasonable.

 

[Jamie C.]

I don't think there's any way to even guess at this one until we see exactly what the SCOTUS ruling is. It might very well make any ban on firearms unconstitutional, in which case only an idiot would attempt to push one through.

But then, there are many idiots holding public office... and I'll refrain from commenting on the Presidency in particular, considering who's currently holding the position.....



J.C.

 

[buzz_knox]

It would be like the battle over abortion. There would be a lot of outcry at the federal level with battles over the foreign policy/trade aspects but little actually being accomplished beyond that. Most of the real battles would be at the state level over what constitutes infringement.

 

[AirForceShooter]

Depends on who is elected.
Hillart and McCain probably status quo.
Obama? All bets are off with Poleisi as Speaker.

AFS

 

[Ratzinger_p38]

AWB II failed in 04 and wont be seriously brought up again. In Congress, once something fails they don't often bring it back up. This time, even more so than in 94 and 04, AR15s esp are at the height of their popularity. In 1994, not as many people hunted with them, and with hunting it brings them a mainstream 'Fudd' kind of respectability.

I've said it before, and you guys are starting to see it -

ammo control is the new hotness. 2a doesnt say anything about right to keep alot of ammo does it? Well let's go on a ban-arama ! First target is going to be imports from ex-communist nations like Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary and Serbia - where the bulk of combloc milsurp is coming from.

(PS - yes, I think the 2a should probably include ammo protection as well, but that is a battle no one has had to fight - yet)

 

[Nobody's_Hero]

Q: So, if DC v. Heller goes really well, and we get a President likely to ban, anyway?

A: Rebellion.

 

[RP88]

they will try to maybe pass or suggest minor federal laws like requiring a fixed waiting period, but the chance of something like that making it to the voting floor is virtually impossible.

They will try to go after ammo. The things they CAN do to ammo arent very nice. They banned the importation of guns, so they could ban the importation of ammo. Problem there is, aside from the costs ammo will rise to, I'm not sure thats something that we can take to court to overturn...

 

[MilsurpShooter]

They'd go after the ammo. No need for FMJ in a sporting purpose. No need for ammo to be able to go "X" far. Ammo registration which would effectively kill reloading, new rules on storage, make the price go up on it so it's just no longer cost effective...

 

[SWMAN]

The only likely result of this decision in the short term is DC has to allow citizens w/o prohibited convictions to own and keep them loaded and cocked in their homes. Otherwise, it'll be the same BAU.

 

[Cosmoline]

I would also worry much, much more about backroom executive orders restricting imports than a full bore AWB II. D or R, the candidates well remember the troubles that legislation caused and the seats that were lost because of it. Plus, I don't see the antis having anything like the requisite political power right now. If Heller comes out our way, I see them using it as an excuse to move on to other fights. The antis don't bring them votes--at least not votes they need.

They could also go after component parts such as primers and powder via existing regulatory schemes well outside the BATFE.

 

[takhtakaal]

They could also go after component parts such as primers and powder via existing regulatory schemes well outside the BATFE.

Does anyone remember the OSHA stupidity from last year? Regulations to include closing down an ammo factory if a thunderstorm comes within ten miles? No loaded firearms within so many feet of ammunition stacked for resale?

Yes, I voted for the ammo restriction option above, myself. Still, I wouldn't put it past a certain ambitious politician to give it the old college try. Fortunately, a poor choice in spiritual advisers may preclude this.

 

[Winchester 73]

A: Rebellion.

So thats the other option!