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Tancredo Plots Anti-Immigration 2008 Campaign

By MEGHAN CLYNE - Staff Reporter of the Sun
November 22, 2005

WASHINGTON - As Republicans look to the 2008 primaries in search of a candidate whose credentials and personality can triumph over Senator Clinton, one potential candidate has no expectation of winning on the basis of his personality or record - or of winning at all, for that matter. Instead, Rep. Thomas Tancredo, a Republican of Colorado, is hoping that his participation in Iowa's caucuses and early primaries will bring a victory for his signature issue: immigration reform.

He isn't waiting until 2008. Mr. Tancredo, 59, who has earned a national reputation for being an advocate for stricter border controls on Capitol Hill, has yet to make a firm declaration of his candidacy. But he is already making campaign stops from coast to coast and writing a book about immigration, tentatively titled "In Mortal Danger." It could serve as Mr. Tancredo's campaign platform and will be available in June, the congressman told The New York Sun yesterday.

In addition to laying the groundwork for his own bid, Mr. Tancredo is headlining campaign events for others who share his immigration philosophy. Reached yesterday by phone in Orange County, Calif., Mr. Tancredo was campaigning for the founder of the Minuteman Project, James Gilchrist, who is running for the congressional seat vacated by the new chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission, Christopher Cox.

Mr. Tancredo has also visited New Hampshire and South Carolina. Bay Buchanan, who is the sister and adviser of another opponent of illegal immigration and former presidential candidate, Patrick Buchanan, has helped Mr. Tancredo make contacts in such early primary states, the congressman said. This weekend, Mr. Tancredo was in Alta, Iowa, on his fourth visit to the crucial caucus state in the last six months.

Mr. Tancredo has said that he will throw his hat into the Iowa ring if no other Republican emerges who will "include immigration in their platform ... and do so with some degree of vigor, "the congressman said yesterday. So far, Mr. Tancredo said a former speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich - who wrote in a recent report for the Center for Immigration Studies that immigrants' dual citizenship posed an "insidious challenge" - has come the closest to being satisfactorily strong on the issue.

Yet Mr. Tancredo appears to enjoy some advantages Mr. Gingrich and his likely 2008 competitors do not, principally the support of an influential Iowa Republican, Rep. Steven King. Mr. King is one of 91 members of the Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus, of which Mr. Tancredo is founder and chairman.

"Tom Tancredo needs to keep coming to Iowa," Mr. King said. "I want him on the stage in this debate."

Messrs. Tancredo and King, and the executive director of the Iowa Republican Party, Cullen Sheehan, indicated yesterday that Mr. Tancredo will have a natural base of support among 2008 caucus-goers.

While Iowa is further removed from the issue of illegal immigration than border states such as California and Arizona, Mr. Tancredo said, it has been surprisingly receptive to his message of ending illegal immigration and reducing the number of legal migrants permitted to enter the country. His Iowa audiences, the congressman said, "are as concerned about it as any group I've ever spoken to in Arizona."

Mr. Sheehan said that illegal immigration is a matter of importance to Iowa's caucus-goers, saying that most "want people to obey the law, and they want our government to uphold the laws we have." Mr. King said jobs in the agricultural industry were also a factor, citing as an example the Farmland Foods packing plant in Dennison, Iowa. Ten years ago, Mr. King said, eight Hispanics worked at the facility compared to 850 today.

Iowans, however, are focused mostly on national security: "How can a nation have a border they don't defend?" Mr. King said. "If it's not really a border, then you're not really a nation."

Mr. King said he also anticipated Mr. Tancredo's message to resonate with caucus-goers because of his focus on the cultural effects of massive immigration. Mr. Tancredo said that today's immigrants decline to become Americans, leading to a "balkanized" society. Immigration, Mr. Tancredo said, fuels and reinforces the divisive multiculturalist ideologies propagated by American elites in academia, the press, and politics.

In fact, it was outrage at multiculturalism in American schools that first brought Mr. Tancredo's attention to immigration. The congressman is a former junior high school teacher, and the schools' insistence on bilingual education and hostility toward America in textbooks and classrooms, combined with his reading of Arthur Schlesinger's "The Disuniting of America" in 1992, served as his road-to-Damascus moment on the need for immigration reform, Mr. Tancredo said.

Mr. Tancredo, a Denver native, left teaching to take a seat in Colorado's House of Representatives in 1976, and later served in the federal Department of Education under Presidents Reagan and Bush. In 1998, Mr. Tancredo was elected to Congress.

After founding the Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus in 1999, Mr. King said, Mr. Tancredo's "credibility is going up as the American public puts pressure on other members of Congress" on the matter of border security. When Mr. Tancredo first introduced amendments to restrict immigration, Mr. King said, the measures would receive 20 to 25 votes. "Three years ago, that same amendment got 60 to 70 votes. Now, that same amendment will get 100 or 110."

If Mr. Tancredo's star is rising among American voters and in the House, he may not be winning friends in the circles of Republican leadership.

The editor of RealClearPolitics.com, John McIntyre, said yesterday that Mr. Tancredo's candidacy poses "a real problem" for the GOP in 2008.

While the Colorado congressman's message might win votes as a hot-button issue in 2008 and 2012, Mr. McIntyre said, demographic trends suggested the position might prove electoral poison in 2016 and beyond as the American electorate becomes increasingly Hispanic, and if the Tancredo platform paints national Republicans as "anti-immigrant."

For Republicans to succeed in quieting Mr. Tancredo, satisfying the base's yearning for a serious immigration policy, and to avoid being tarred as nativist, it would be necessary for the GOP to nominate a popular candidate with a reputation for being a moderate-such as Senator McCain, of Arizona, or Mayor Giuliani - who would then embrace the issue in the 2008 campaign.
 
Tancredo Plots Anti-Immigration 2008 Campaign

Well, for starters the headline is false and misleading. Tancredo is not against LEGAL immigration, just ILLEGAL immigration. Journalists who can't or won't make that distinction need to be drummed out of the brotherhood.

If pols are going to run scared because they think a growing population of Hispanics (are we talking legal or illegal?) means we have to legitimize illegal immigration, then we have a serious problem that needs to be confronted openly and directly, and the sooner the better. Someone had better talk turkey about the need, and right, to control our borders and our immigration policies. We might want to start taking a closer look at who is voting these days.

What the pols don't see is that no one will give a hang about election results if people begin to think the whole system is rigged. I would not be at all surprised if that were the end result of this entire bloody fiasco.
 
Actually, Tancredo endorses greatly reducing the number of legal immigrants also, and I agree one hundred and ten percent. I'm no longer a Republican but the man may get my vote.
Biker
 
Tancredo is way out in front on immigration issues

Always has been DESPITE people claiming 'all' Republicans aren't doing anything
 
Crom said:
So far, Mr. Tancredo said a former speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich - who wrote in a recent report for the Center for Immigration Studies that immigrants' dual citizenship posed an "insidious challenge" - has come the closest to being satisfactorily strong on the issue...

I like him! An honest man! He can have my vote!

No illegal immigration!
 
Biker said:
Actually, Tancredo endorses greatly reducing the number of legal immigrants also, and I agree one hundred and ten percent. I'm no longer a Republican but the man may get my vote.
Biker

I sure hope you're of original native American decent with an attitude like that. I was a legal immigrant before being naturalized and I see nothing wrong with controlled legal immigration. I have a big problem with uncontrolled illegal immigration. If we need more people, and it seems we do, then lets get people who want to be Americans in here instead of just people who want to make a quick buck.
 
fourays2 said:
I sure hope you're of original native American decent with an attitude like that. I was a legal immigrant before being naturalized and I see nothing wrong with controlled legal immigration. I have a big problem with uncontrolled illegal immigration. If we need more people, and it seems we do, then lets get people who want to be Americans in here instead of just people who want to make a quick buck.
Yeah. I'm a Native American. I was *born* here.
;)
Who says we need more people? I don't. I believe that we need to put a moratorium on all immigration for a few years until we get the existing problem in hand.
Biker
 
Not until unemployment falls below 1%
Careful, there’s a lot of fuzzy math in unemployment figures.

and starting wages in fast food rise above $15/hr due to labor shortages will we need more warm bodies.
With or without tips?
 
Will this campaign be called the Mouse Who Roared?

This won't even be an issue by 2008, President Bush - the greatest leader of our time - has a plan to fix the illegal immigration problem. I'm pretty sure Seanator McCain supports the Bush effort and will drive the effort forward.
You'd all be wise to get behind the President in this effort, his plan is the best.
 
Biker said:
Yeah. I'm a Native American. I was *born* here.
;)
Who says we need more people? I don't. I believe that we need to put a moratorium on all immigration for a few years until we get the existing problem in hand.
Biker

OK lets roll the clock back a few years to before your ancestors came over. I bet people were saying the same thing back then.
 
I think we need extensive public discussion of our immigration policies, especially in light of the uncontrolled illegal influx we've experienced over the last couple of decades. The impact is far too significant to not undertake a complete review of where we stand and what we are facing. Policies come and go; there is nothing sacred about any specific immigration policy or any set of numbers. I think, personally, we would be well-advised at this point to cherry-pick whom we bring in; we need to get real about American competitiveness in the future. Our job isn't to be "compassionate" but to prevail as a nation and a culture. We are not going to do that by importing millions of uneducated, unskilled laborers.

Immigration, legal and illegal, will be a big issue in '08 and well beyond, long after George W. Bush is remembered as the Bush who came between The Old Man and George P.:D
 
fourays2

Maybe they were saying the same thing. But, the fact is, a century or so back, we *did* need more people. We had a lot of land to be settled, the industrial revolution, and all that.
Those needs no longer exist. More people today now means smaller pieces of the pie for those here now.
I like my pie.
Stay home and cook your own...:)
Biker
 
Prediction:

Tancredo goes down in flames because no one really cares about his issue. It's one that people like to talk about, but when it comes down to it, I give a candidate running on an anti-immigrant platform about 1000 to .01 odds of making it anywhere on the national scene...and that's even out of the primaries.

People who want to make immigration the number one priority are just plumb outvoted by an enormous majority, as vocal as they are.
 
shootinstudent said:
Prediction:

Tancredo goes down in flames because no one really cares about his issue. It's one that people like to talk about, but when it comes down to it, I give a candidate running on an anti-immigrant platform about 1000 to .01 odds of making it anywhere on the national scene...and that's even out of the primaries.

People who want to make immigration the number one priority are just plumb outvoted by an enormous majority, as vocal as they are.
I think that you're right in that people won't respond to the problem until it has a direct affect on their life, and then it is too late.
I hope that we're both wrong.
Biker
 
People who want to make immigration the number one priority are just plumb outvoted by an enormous majority, as vocal as they are.
I disagree. Illegal immigration is a big issue and will become increasingly important as the 2008 elections approach. Tancredo's problem is that the issue will be co-opted by both parties as they pander to their various constituencies. The Republicans will nominate some RINO who now has no affiliation with George Bush and Tancredo, 'too extreme for America' :rolleyes: will be left in the dust.
 
R.H. Lee,

Constituents are voters. I agree that it could be one of many issues, but if that's your primary focus in 2008, it is going to be a major loser. This is one of those issues that it seems most people are more interested in talking about than actually doing something about for many reasons.

Of course, things can always change in a few years...I just wouldn't bet my milk money on it.
 
Biker said:
Maybe they were saying the same thing. But, the fact is, a century or so back, we *did* need more people. We had a lot of land to be settled, the industrial revolution, and all that.
Those needs no longer exist. More people today now means smaller pieces of the pie for those here now.
I like my pie.
Stay home and cook your own...:)
Biker
we still need more people, how else do you expect to deal with that massive entitlement called social security? don't say abolish/reduce it cuz that dog won't hunt.
 
I sure hope you're of original native American decent with an attitude like that. I was a legal immigrant before being naturalized and I see nothing wrong with controlled legal immigration. I have a big problem with uncontrolled illegal immigration. If we need more people, and it seems we do, then lets get people who want to be Americans in here instead of just people who want to make a quick buck.

My mother's mother's people started complaining about immigrants roughly 14,000 years ago. It's never done them a speck of good.

Seriously: legal immigrants have always been one of America's greatest strengths, and I, for one, hope they'll remain one. That said™, I think we should stop all immigration until we've a.) solved the illegal alien problem, and b.) assimilated the legal aliens we've already let in.

We could easily solve the illegal alien problem in a year's time.

Tancredo is one of the very few Republicans I'd consider voting for.
 
we still need more people, how else do you expect to deal with that massive entitlement called social security? don't say abolish/reduce it cuz that dog won't hunt.
SS is just another Ponzi scheme, and like all such scams will eventually collapse. The sooner its ends, the less overall damage is done.

*I* don't expect it do be there if/when I decide to stop working after reaching retirement age. Do YOU? If so, I have some lovely beachfront property on Mars that would be a GREAT investment for your Golden Years.:cool:
Tancredo is one of the very few Republicans I'd consider voting for.
+1 Perhaps us Colorado folks should work on getting him to run for Pres. in 2008.
 
SS is just another Ponzi scheme, and like all such scams will eventually collapse. The sooner its ends, the less overall damage is done.
hey hey hey!

Watch it now. I've been paying into SS for the last 40 years, and I expect to begin collecting in another 5 years. Don't be talkin' no smack...........
:p
 
Prediction:

Tancredo goes down in flames because no one really cares about his issue. It's one that people like to talk about, but when it comes down to it, I give a candidate running on an anti-immigrant platform about 1000 to .01 odds of making it anywhere on the national scene...and that's even out of the primaries.

People who want to make immigration the number one priority are just plumb outvoted by an enormous majority, as vocal as they are.

In case you haven't noticed, people have been voting with their feet, moving away from areas that accumulate too many illegal immigrants along with the attendant tax, welfare, congestion, and overcrowding problems. When and if the socialists follow--as they always do, hands out, police power at the ready--with their demands for more tax revenues this will sooner or later hit the fan. Has to. Repeal CA's Prop. XIII to fund more schools for Mexican kids and see whether people staring eviction in the face are going to just shrug it off. No, we are in the anteroom of what will become a huge problem and could lead to a civil war.

As for Social Security, we don't need massive amounts of poor Central Americans, who pay marginal taxes anyway, to fund what another poster has rightly called a Ponzi scheme. The answer to SS is to have a real separate trust fund, if we don't privatize (which I favor), and invest in vehicles with real returns. What we have now is a scam, just a fund transfer.
 
There is no issue more divisive today than what the ruling class is not doing about illegal immigration. The situation is not yet explosive but the trends are in place. We have a situation where those who rule will do nothing to fix the problem all while those who pay taxes get progressively angry. NC has a representative in congress sponsoring legislation which will cost the state something like $1 billion in highway funds because of it practices with respect ot granting driver's licenses to illegal aliens. Oh, she is also running for governor.

Illegal immigration as a public policy issue has one advantage that a lot of isses don't have. It is simple for Joe and Martha Sixpack to understand. Furthermore it is virtually impossible to spin. Other scandals of congress and presidents have been convoluted and filled with legal niceties.

--Joe and Martha understand that they can't cash a check without the funds to cover it. So why should members of congress be able to kit checks?
--Joe and Martha understand patronage is bad and failure to actually do work is criminal. So why should congress get away with it.
--Joe and Martha understand those in the US are here illegally. Joe and Martha know its illegal to hire someone here illegally. Joe and Martha see congress making laws then failing to enforce those laws. Joe and Marth get to go to the emergency room and pay for their visit but see those here illegally get in without cost. Joe and Martha know how expensive it is to send their kid, Doofus, to college. So how is it illegal immigrants get preferrential tuition rates? Joe and Martha and Doofus fully understand the folly of spending hundreds of billions of dollars blocking the front door of the country and leave the freakin' back door off the hinges. At some point Joe and Martha will ask, "Why is it we spend so much money on Homeland defense when the most obvious hole in that defense is still open?" Common sense rules.

Illegal immigration is really hard to spin in another direction. What is happening runs contrary to our supposed adherence to the rule of law and Joe and Martha fully understand what is going on. The problem is too widespread and known by far too many people first hand to be continually ignored by the elites. Immigration will be a huge fight in the next election despite Bush's efforts to make it go away. He will play word games but I think the Great Fed Up are well beyond word games.
 
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