The best scopes in the world?

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I think LEICA is getting into the rifle scope buisness, their glass and lenses have been tops in the world on cameras, microscopes, etc.!
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They've been in the rifle scope business before and just like their cameras they tend to be superb optically but esoteric in design and overpriced for the features you get.

Also they won't actually make the scopes they will pay someone to make them for them with their optics, it was rumored that someone was going to be kahles but that looks like it turned out to be a rumor.
 
I think LEICA is getting into the rifle scope buisness,
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I had heard that Leica was purchasing the Kahles line of optics. I'm not sure on this... just as long as Kahles remains and their quality as well.

I own a couple Kahles scopes, and hands down, except for maybe a Hensoldt, I would own no other... well, except for maybe a Schmidt and Bender or Ziess Victory or.....

Oh, and that Hensoldt I said we sold...not! It was a Zeiss Victory Daivari... the customer 'wanted' a Hensoldt, but they are not available yet, someone put it in the puter' as an Hensoldt... my bad... sorry!

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Nicest I've shot is a Zeiss Conquest, the 900$ one on a 8x57 Mauser. Does really well at 100 yards. It was as if there was no glass to look through and I had magical zoom power eyes. Oh yeah, and the turrets are really nice.

Based on reviews and specs, Schmidt & Bender. Nothing screams "most technologically dominate military in the world" like S&B.

Kahles appeals to the classy in me. Older than Swarovski, so classier. Uses less onobtanium for materials than Swarovski, Zeiss Diavari or S&B.

Swarovski appeals to the mogul in me. If I had a Blazer 416 Rem Mag like the dude on tv, I would want a Swarovski 2-7x sitting on top of it.

IOR, Leupold and others are also rans. Even the Burris that I always reccomend. There, you happy, now I feel like a whore. :D
 
S&B, Zeiss-Victory Diavari/Hensoldt, Swarovski/Kahles. The German or Austrian made models of 30mm scopes from the big four (counting Kahles) make the best practical scopes for hunting. The big four's, American, 1" versions follow, then all the rest.

Followed by Meopta (also makes some Zeiss Conquest lenses), Zeiss Conquest, Leupold VX3 and up models, Bushnell, Trijicon et al.
 
for tactical scopes- USO or S&B, I doubt anyone could actually see a difference in the image, the only difference will be in the options. There is no other comparable.
Even with a nightforce, you can see a difference if they are side by side. Just a note- I own two NF scopes and one USO. I dont NEED a USO, a NF will do anything I could ever ask of it, but it is better then my NF scopes

for hunting- Zeiss or Swarovski. both proven around the world for a looooong time.
 
If money wasn't a consideration, USO would be at the top of my list. Unfortunately, money is a consideration, and Nightforce is a good balance of quality and features versus price.

Ed
 
Kahles appeals to the classy in me. Older than Swarovski, so classier.
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I disagree, I think the Swaro is classier and if/when I get a dangerous game rifle I think one will sit atop it. Overall I think Zeiss is just as good (or a tiny bit better) and a little cheaper, but as stupid as it sounds I think the Swaro looks a great deal nicer (just not enough nicer for 99% of rifles).
What about Premier Reticles? I've heard good things about their optics quality, but haven't read a great review yet.
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One shall be coming later this month/early next if all goes well. My 5-25x56mm was delayed and "will arrive late July". All my long range components are coming in late. Finally received the bipod today...just have no dang rifle to put it on...and when I do it won't have glass...makes me feel like shooting something (still taking donations from frustrated consumer electronics buyers :D)...if only I had a rifle. :p :banghead:
 
got my premier mounted up and ready to shoot this weekend.
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The 3-15x I presume? I was told that the 5-25x were not shipping till the end of the month...either way I am eager to hear how it performs. :)
 
No, Bill Gates would use a scope that takes 5 minutes to warm up before you can use it, after taking the covers off, gets lower and lower quality with each "improved" line, freezes up and goes dark in the middle of the hunt, and provides no customer service whatsoever for the broken scope - I guess that'd be a BSA.
 
I really liked the Kelbly-March scopes at SHOT except they tend towards funky reticles. If you want a lot of options, they make a 2.5-25X. That would put the Bushnell 6500 in the shade... if it didn't cost $2800.
 
No, Bill Gates would use a scope
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...that had blue coatings and white reticle that said..."A problem has been detected and scope has been shut down to protect your rifle". :neener:
 
My eyes are older than eye am, and on a recent cull (doe) hunt I killed not one, but TWO young breeder stock bucks looking through a 45 year-old weaver K-4. (They were nub-less, 70-80 lbs, it was well after sundown & nearing dark, so get off me:)). I was feeling nostalgic, so I was hunting with my dads 40+ year old model 70 w/ the afformentioned K-4 as original equipment that was passed down to me many years back.

After that VERY expensive loss, the ranch owner handed me a box with a leupold VX-III 4X14, heavy duplex reticle, adjustable objective with orders to come back the following weekend with the new harware mounted on the 40+ year old .270 I was using. I told him I could not possibly accept it; he insisted it was far cheaper than having me kill any more breeders. I have other rifles w/ Leupold's, but he generously insisted I take it. The back to back difference is night & day, and I didn't make anymore harvesting errors.

There is something to be said for prestige & having appreciation for "THE BEST", but there is also GOOD ENOUGH. I have several Leupold scopes & they are rugged, bright, and not one has lost zero even with several years of hard use. They are also made in America, an not much is anymore.
 
For practical long-range shooting:

S&B
Premier
Hensoldt
USO
NF
Leupold

In that order, IMO.


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(Updates with Premier and Hensoldt are pending publication but support the order listed above.)
 
I've never seen one. From looking at the March Tactical 2.5-25 web page, I have the following criticisms:

* second focal plane not ideal for PLRS
* no 0.1 mrad click options
* no mil-based reticle options
* elevation knob turns "wrong way" (ie, vs. S&B), marginal preference issue
* unclear if it has a zero stop or not

Although they do have a nice big elevation knob with a lot of travel per turn, the rest of the features or feature combinations for are qualitatively similar to, or a slight step up from, the non-FFP Nightforces or the Leupolds, in the context of practical/field long-range shooting.
 
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