The new Glock model 45

[BSA1]

I’ve given up defending glock against the people who search for things to complain about. It’s pointless because they will always find something. I guess their favorite gun manufacturer is absolutely perfect and there’s nothing to complain about.

Er...actually it is Glock that claims their guns are perfect. (Glock Perfection ads.)

Your comment that "I’ve given up defending glock" is interesting as I quit publicly criticizing Glocks many years ago as I find most Glock owners vicious defending their choice. Privately and in low conversations there is a underground movement of gun owners that do not like Glocks and prefer Smith & Wesson, Ruger, etc..

We are not hard to spot if you what to look for. We are huddled together in a small group at the end of gun counter and shooting range, talking in quiet voices while looking around suspiciously for those hunting Glock haters. If we do not know who you are we will quickly hide our pistols from sight if you approach us and quickly change the conversation to something else.

In public we are known to conceal our feelings by wearing a ball cap or tee-shirt that has a Glock Logo on it or have Glock stickers on our shooting gear or use other Glock merchandise. (I have a Glock keychain and a Glock ink pin). One advantage of Conceal Carry is we can hide our non-Glock handguns.

We are out there. Organizing, buying, shooting. Be afraid, very afraid.

 

[DPris]

There's absolutely no point in resurrecting the 19X arguments over the configuration of the G45.
If you don't get it, don't get it.

Otherwise, there was an immediate clamor when the 19X was introduced for a black version, and here it is.
Some of us saw it as inevitable, considering how well the 19X has sold.
If you want some other configuration, go talk to Glock about your idea.
In the meantime, let the market be the market, without engaging in war over the configuration & model name.
Denis

 

[GunnyUSMC]

You do have to give Mr. Glock the credit for advertising and how his guns hit the market.
They knew that there was a demand for a compact single stack 9mm, but the they put out the G42. They road that wave almost to the breaking point then put out the G43. A lot of people that bought G42s also bought a G43. Then they put out the 19X. They knew that a black version would be wanted but they left it on the back burner. The19X had higher sales then expected, but if they had released the G45 first, I don’t think the 19X would’ve done so good. Glock knows how to play the market, you have to give them that.
Now many Glock haters point out the Glock Prefection thing. Get over it, it’s just advertising. Other companies have used advertising such as The Last Gun You Will Ever Own. For some this was true because, they died before they bought another gun.
Now I like and own S&W M&P simi autos, but my department issues Glocks so I carry one, and have for the last 16 years. I like Glock and own a few. But I also own other other guns that I like. Oh! I don’t own any of the Springfield XD’s, but it won’t hurt my feelings if you like and own them.
Life it to short to walk around with a stick in your butt. Find the gun you like and buy it. But don’t forget to look at the new ones that come out, you might find something else that you like.
Now as soon as S&W sends me a big check, I’ll start bashing Glock.

 

[DPris]

Gaston hasn't had much to do with running the joint for several years.

I thought it was funny at the first of the year when a Glock VP was telling me they had no plans for a black version of the 19x.
It was obvious they'd cave before the year was out.
Denis

 

[Old Dog]

Hey, long-time Glock-basher checking back in ... I've hated 'em for years (having been issued the 23 once upon a time) ... But strangely, not only do I like the looks of the baby-poop colored 19X, I have shot it a lot and it's kinda growing on me. Strange.

 

[DPris]

Long live baby poop!!!!!!
Denis

 

[JR24]

Hey, long-time Glock-basher checking back in ... I've hated 'em for years (having been issued the 23 once upon a time) ... But strangely, not only do I like the looks of the baby-poop colored 19X, I have shot it a lot and it's kinda growing on me. Strange.

It's really grown on me too.

 

[1KPerDay]

Gaston hasn't had much to do with running the joint for several years.

I thought it was funny at the first of the year when a Glock VP was telling me they had no plans for a black version of the 19x.
It was obvious they'd cave before the year was out.
Denis

And they were true to their word. They didn't release a black G19x. They released a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT pistol called the G45.

 

[jjones45]

[QU OTE="BSA1, post: 10931789, member: 152216"]Er...actually it is Glock that claims their guns are perfect. (Glock Perfection ads.)

Your comment that "I’ve given up defending glock" is interesting as I quit publicly criticizing Glocks many years ago as I find most Glock owners vicious defending their choice. Privately and in low conversations there is a underground movement of gun owners that do not like Glocks and prefer Smith & Wesson, Ruger, etc..

We are not hard to spot if you what to look for. We are huddled together in a small group at the end of gun counter and shooting range, talking in quiet voices while looking around suspiciously for those hunting Glock haters. If we do not know who you are we will quickly hide our pistols from sight if you approach us and quickly change the conversation to something else.

In public we are known to conceal our feelings by wearing a ball cap or tee-shirt that has a Glock Logo on it or have Glock stickers on our shooting gear or use other Glock merchandise. (I have a Glock keychain and a Glock ink pin). One advantage of Conceal Carry is we can hide our non-Glock handguns.

We are out there. Organizing, buying, shooting. Be afraid, very afraid. [/QUOTE]
Funny. Glock isn’t even my favorite striker fired gun. For me the ppq is better quality and I shoot them consistently more accurately. And walthers aren’t perfect by any means, just visit the walther forum to confirm this. I just find it funny how people complain about the same glock dislikes over the last 20 years and continually search for more things to gripe about. Now it’s the model number lol. I guess the ergonomics, sights, finger grooves, front serrations, blockiness, and mag compatibility issues have been addressed so the only thing left is model number. Why on earth would the glock model 45 not be a 45acp and instead a 9mm? Come on glock stop confusing us. I mean who cares if none of the other model numbers match the caliber, this one takes the cake. Glock should just change their system and do like Sig does with the p series or hk does with there guns so we wouldn’t have anything else to complain about. Wait, there’s people who now don’t like the cheap looking front serrations or lack of finger grooves or the flared mag well. It will never stop. If you don’t like it buy something else and be happy. I don’t understand why people spend countless hours bashing guns they don’t like. I don’t like several guns but don’t spend time bashing them unless I had a personal bad experience and then move on. Its just odd that glock gets so much hate but stays so successful in their marketing. I guess it goes to show the internet commandoes don’t really know squat about marketing and such. Glock has definitely been listening to the customers over the last 5 years or so giving us single stacks, 380’s, longslide 45’s and 10mm’s, optic ready pistols, better factory sight options, more mag options and everything between. But according to some they just don’t do enough. “No innovation” is another big glock complaint. “All they do is just make the same pistol in different configurations” goes hand in hand with that statement. I mean can people honestly say they aren’t tired of the same old glock hate?

 

[DannyLandrum]

What the heck? Why on earth should the model number change with just a color change? That makes zero sense.

Much more practical for the civilian market would be a full-length slide with short grip (i.e. reverse 19X) - same as the popular Commander 1911 style.

 

[Old Dog]

Why on earth should the model number change with just a color change? That makes zero sense

Must be those weird front-cocking serrations. Looked at one today in the LGS; haven't changed my opinion. Fugly.

 

[JDR]

There's absolutely no point in resurrecting the 19X arguments over the configuration of the G45. If you don't get it, don't get it.

IMHO if you get the chance to shoot a 19x like I have with mine, or perhaps one of these Model 45 9mm’s when these become more readily available, you might find that it is probably one of the best darn shooting Glocks that you either own outright or have tried out anyway.

It definitely doesn’t conceal as well as a G26 or G43, no argument about that point. But a really great shooter like my own Glock 19x, with almost 1,500 rounds downrange so far, will definitely have a place in my collection anyway!

 

[rskent]

IMHO if you get the chance to shoot a 19x like I have with mine, or perhaps one of these Model 45 9mm’s when these become more readily available, you might find that it is probably one of the best darn shooting Glocks that you either own outright or have tried out anyway.

Does it shoot better than a G17? I know that its subjective. But what, in your estimation, makes it a better shooter?

 

[JDR]

Does it shoot better than a G17? I know that its subjective. But what, in your estimation, makes it a better shooter?

It’s definitely subjective, but my 19x does seem to shoot slightly better than my Gen3 17 and 19. It balances a bit better than the 17, much the same way that a commander length 1911 balances better for me anyway than a gov’t length 1911. All of the magazines work in either gun, so I have a total of 9 magazines to use now. There seems to be something about the accuracy of the marksman barrel in the 19x, but that is also subjective.

 

[JR24]

Does it shoot better than a G17? I know that its subjective. But what, in your estimation, makes it a better shooter?

In my hands... same accuracy, but I'm faster with my 19X and get better hits at speed (hence faster) compared to my 17.4.

 

[GunnyUSMC]

I stopped in at the Pawn and Gun shop on my way home to have another look at the G45 and get some more pics. The scheduled date to put them out for sale is the 5th. While I was behind the counter looking at the gun, the store owner got an email from Glock stating that the G45 could be put out for sale today.
Here’s some more pics.


It does not have the finger sit out at the front button of the grip like the Gen5 and doesn’t have the lip like the 19x.


It has the flared mag well like the Gen5. The 19X doesn’t have a flared mag well.

 

[scaatylobo]

Glock owner and EDC'er.

I do NOT like the 'new' G-45 at all.

As to what y'all like & dislike = WGAF ?.

Its your butt,your dance card = do as you please.

 

[Sistema1927]

What price did they put on it?

 

[GunnyUSMC]

What price did they put on it?

I think it was $559

 

[HPCadm17]

Glock model designations are easy to follow, they're just sequential in order of product release to market. I believe the "X" in 19X was supposed to mean crossover(?), according to some early material from Glock. Cross ("X") between Mid-length barrel, full-length grip.

Personally, I really like the balance and feel of the 19X, just not digging the odd color mismatch between slide and frame.

The G45 looks promising, but it does away with that little lip at the bottom front of the grip, something I oddly like about the 19X as it just gives a sense of security to the grip. Maybe it's just me (usually is!). I don't mind the front serrations since I'm used to them on my SIG, Hopefully I'll have a chance to check one out soon, but I better have my wallet refilled...

 

[tarosean]

Glock model designations are easy to follow, they're just sequential in order of product release to market. I believe the "X" in 19X was supposed to mean crossover(?), according to some early material from Glock. Cross ("X") between Mid-length barrel, full-length grip.

Except as noted numerous times this pistol is identical to the 19x with minuscule changes.
My G17 didn't get a new number because it has "Gills" instead of vertical serrations.. t's really that stupid.

Im hoping that when the Old man kicks the bucket we will actually get to see something new instead of the fleecing of owners... Glock is a lot like Apple in that regard. Revolutionized the market, yet sat back till the competition passed em by... Now everything they tout as "new and improved" is decades behind the competition.

Yes I do own Apple and Glock Products...

 

[Jim Watson]

One change isn't exactly miniscule.
The 19X is the commercial version of the 19mhs made up for Army consideration. Hey, why not sell some, they had the mold.
The main complaint on the 19x is that the lip on the frontstrap keeps you from using Gen 5 magazines. You must use the magazines furnished, Gen 4 or earlier, or change the floorplate on a Gen 5.
The 45 has a clean bottom outline and will take them all. And it's black.

 

[Pat Riot]

I love my 19X. I was thinking I wanted a 34 MOS. Now I want the 45, and I agree about the number. 45 should have been a 45 ACP. The G45 should have been 19XB, or something.
Reminds me of my S&W 327 Night Guard and people confusing the “327” with the .327 round. No, S&W was confusing folks with numbering a few years before Glock came along.

I have owned a Gen 3 G34 and a G19. I want a black 19X but am moving to California soon so unless I find a 45 before I move and figure out a way to convince my wife I “need” it before paying for a move I will be relegated to Gen 3 Glock purchases...at least until I retire in a few years.

I wanted a black 19X to go with the tan one and the black one would be “Good” and the tan one “Evil”. ‘Cause we all know “black guns matter”. Hehehe...

 

[GunnyUSMC]

Except as noted numerous times this pistol is identical to the 19x with minuscule changes.
My G17 didn't get a new number because it has "Gills" instead of vertical serrations.. t's really that stupid.

Im hoping that when the Old man kicks the bucket we will actually get to see something new instead of the fleecing of owners... Glock is a lot like Apple in that regard. Revolutionized the market, yet sat back till the competition passed em by... Now everything they tout as "new and improved" is decades behind the competition.

Yes I do own Apple and Glock Products...

I disagree.
Back when the G17 first hit the market there wasn't a lot of love for it. Glock had to prove to that the pistol was better. The horrors that were bestowed upon it were more then most guns had ever seen. But that was what it took to change the way people looked at guns. As of today Glocks are carried by more LEOs then any other handgun. It is also in the top three brands of guns the bad guys use the most.
I remember all the talk about how the new plastic Glock pistol was never going to catch on here in the US. Well, it didn't take long for all the major gun manufactures to start building their own plastic frame guns.
The 19X and the G45 differences, they may not be much, but that are enough that some people like one over the other. I like the grip on the 19X more then the G45. They both have the new Glock Marksman barrel. This is the barrel that was developed for the Military testing and will hold a 3" group at 50 yards. With the changes made to the lower portion of the grip it is able to use all the G17 mags.
I also believe that G45 will be picked up by many Police Dept. and that this is what Glock intended.

 

[Jim Watson]

Yes and reloaders found the Hodgdon Clays series of powders confusing, too. They changed the label, now International and Universal just have "Clays Technology" in a subtitle on the label. Maybe Gaston will renumber his pistols to suit the sensitivity of the internet.