Thinking about a RIA 22 AR style.

[CoalCrackerAl]

200.00 OTD.

 

[NIGHTLORD40K]

Cheap enough, but not close enough to act as a "trainer" per se, in lieu of a real AR, IMO.
Also, probably takes proprietary mags and parts availability is gunna be nil.

If'n it was me, Id put the money towards a PSA "blem" special and get a CMMG .22 conversion bolt and mag. Could maybe save a few bucks and build a dedicated one, leaving out the .223 BCG and gas tube as well. That way you get a more accurate training experience, industry -standardized magazines, and most parts compatibility with a standard AR.

Nothin wrong with buying it just cuz you like the looks, of course, it's only $200 after all.

 

[FL-NC]

I went with one of the S&W models. It was more $ than the RIA, but being a S&W product I have confidence in it working or S&W satisfactorilly addressing the issue if a problem occurs.

 

[The Happy Kaboomer]

I went with one of the S&W models. It was more $ than the RIA, but being a S&W product I have confidence in it working or S&W satisfactorilly addressing the issue if a problem occurs.

I too have the S&W 15-22 and like it.......Lots of AR parts will fit.......Especially the trigger group.......And it has one of the best high cap mags ever......Also got a 50 round Blackdog drum magazine for it.

 

[wanderinwalker]

I just popped on to say, save your money and get the S&W 15-22. It has the same control lay-out as a centerfire AR-15 and they generally work. I can't recall much positive about the RIA, Armscor or other "not quite an AR, AR-22s". (This applies to the Ruger 10/22 dressed up to be an "AR" and I believe Mossberg had something similar for a while as well.)

 

[CoalCrackerAl]

I had a S&W 15-22. Sold it like a fool. Sellers remorse is getting to me now. I'll hold off on the RIA.

 

[Howland937]

It's $200. Buy it and if it sucks, somebody will come along and give you your money back.
I got the M&P when they had a $75 rebate so ended up under $350.
I have had some problems with the mags for the 15-22. The plastic gets distorted and the button that's supposed to make loading easier drags. I popped the buttons out of mine and if I need help, just poke a pocket screwdriver through the hole. Even easier than the easy button.

 

[maxxhavoc]

I would generally recommend the CMMG dedicated bolt and barrel kits, but they have gone up a lot in price. I never got acceptable accuracy from their conversions (although the conversion kit can be"upgraded" to the dedicated by buying their barrel.

However, these days it's hard to pass up BCA offerings. $231 for a side charging dedicated upper is hard to walk past. It takes CMMG style mags too.

https://www.bearcreekarsenal.com/22...el-1-16-twist-15-mlok-scg2-nrail-branded.html

 

[CoalCrackerAl]

I have RIA 1911'S and a 38 revolver they are fine. Im going to look at it. See if it ''talks'' to me.

 

[doubleh]

I hope it works better than Mossberg's cheapie version. It doesn't light any fires for me.

I bought one of the first Colt M4-22s. My oldest GG daughter eventually weaseled it away from me. It worked well and is still doing so. I bought a 15-22 for her little sister and it is doing the same. I got a BCA upper so I would have a 22 AR and use it with my M&P lower that has a LaRue trigger. So far it had done it's job and is pretty accurate. Little sis got a spare LaRue trigger in her 15-22. Everyone is happy.

 

[dranrab]

It's $200. Buy it and if it sucks, somebody will come along and give you your money back.

When you go to sell it, what's the best way to tell the buyer that it sucks? Seems many of our gun loving family are happy about sending a dud "down the road." As often as I see people write of that, I have yet to see anyone tell how they handle the sale.

 

[CoalCrackerAl]

I declined it. It felt cheap.

 

[Demi-human]

I have RIA 1911'S and a 38 revolver they are fine. Im going to look at it. See if it ''talks'' to me.

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I almost feel bad about sharing it, but you seem really interested in having a rimfire AR back in the garage.

I haven’t been impressed with the S&W versions I’ve got to run. Three so far. After a friend’s first one was comically terrible and was returned, I got to try the replacement and another friend’s rifle. The last two ran well enough, but felt very much like a toy. Not anyway near as accurate as my 597 and not close to a 10/22.

I have two AR22s now. Actual firearms these. They are more expensive, but worth it for the quality and compatibility, as they will work with a lower one already owns. My 16” pencil barrel is phenomenally accurate. The rifling was mirror smooth, as a rebranded CMMG barrel. Beyers Barrels also make tensioned and sleeved aluminum barrels and my pistol version is quite accurate, while also stabilizing the 60grain Aguila SSS load.

Oh, another message just posted…

I declined it. It felt cheap.

Oh! Well, there you have it!

 

[doubleh]

When you go to sell it, what's the best way to tell the buyer that it sucks?

That is a good question. I'm stuck with a Ruger Wrangler that is so inaccurate I won't sell it or give it away. I wouldn't want someone to stick me with something like it and won't do it to someone.

 

[Howland937]

When you go to sell it, what's the best way to tell the buyer that it sucks? Seems many of our gun loving family are happy about sending a dud "down the road." As often as I see people write of that, I have yet to see anyone tell how they handle the sale.

It's not hard. People don't get rid of guns (ot anything else) without a reason. An honest person will divulge the reason. "It sucks" was kinda generic... could be accuracy, reliability, feel, fit. Whatever. Most folks understand they're not likely to get a gem at a $200 price point but may be able to live with the shortcomings. Especially at half the price of the competition.

 

[CoalCrackerAl]

I book marked right to bear.

 

[mavracer]

I book marked right to bear.

I highly recommend them I have used a lot of their parts including a 9" 22 lr barrel bolt upper kit that I used to assemble a 22 upper to match my 300 blackout SBR. It's been reliable from the jump and is very accurate.
It's the detached upper on top.

 

[6.8 hunter]

Personally I would like to try the Smith and Wesson

 

[rust collector]

I realize the decision has been made but I believe you made the right call. I watched a you tube video of disassembly and my impression was that it was made to be inexpensive. I have a couple other RIA guns and they are fine, but occasionally RIA can't seem to find the handle. Their 22 TCM rifles looked nice, but were not accurate for most shooters.

 

[LiveLife]

Id put the money towards a PSA "blem" special and get a CMMG .22 conversion bolt and mag

I have two CMMG 22LR bolt conversion kits and used them for 1:9/1:8/1:7 twist rate 16"/18"/20" ARs.

While they worked reliably (Until bolt/chamber fouling needs to be cleaned after several hundred rounds), faster twist rate of AR barrels produced "OK" accuracy and I now use them with copper plated/washed ammunition for closer 25/50 yard soda can/2L bottle plinking and fast point shooting drills.

For about same price as $200 RIA TM22, $235 BCA 22LR complete uppers are built with slower 1:16 twist rate barrels more compatible with 22LR ammunition (Lead or copper plated/washed) for around 1" groups at 50 yards using same trigger and "manual of arms" practice. And BCA 22LR uppers use standard AR22 magazines.

100 yard plinking is done with 10/22 and T/CR22 with MOA capable bull barrels for minute-of-soda can fun but BCA 22LR upper is fine for minute-of-2L bottle plinking fun.

 

[LoonWulf]

Mossberg had something similar for a while as well.)

I believe that was a Blaze variation....... Literally the only gun I've ever handled I felt was an absolute waste of money......75 Dollars of somebody else's money at that....

Personally, I'd probably go with a dedicated 22 upper were I interested in an AR style .22

 

[LiveLife]

RIA 22 AR

BTW, American Rifleman review of RIA TM22 with 18" 1:16 twist barrel - https://www.americanrifleman.org/content/review-rock-island-armory-tm22/

50 yard average groups:

• CCI 40 gr Powder Coated LRN - 1.42"
• Federal 36 gr Champion CPHP - 2.04"
• Tippmann 40 gr SV LRN - 1.50"

$235 BCA 22LR complete uppers ... 1:16 twist rate barrels ... around 1" groups at 50 yards

And here's American Rifleman review of CMMG 16" dedicated AR upper with 1:16 twist barrel - https://www.americanrifleman.org/content/three-awesome-ar-uppers/

100 yard average groups:

• Federal AutoMatch 40 gr LRN - 1.00"
• Winchester M22 40 gr LRN - 1.06"
• Browning BPR 40 gr LRN - 1.13"

 

[ParadiseDweller]

I bought a 22 BCA upper for mine. Its cheap and reliable and pretty accurate to 100 yards with a cheap scope. I also like the side charging handle.That's if you don't mind changing uppers but if you want a dedicated firearm then this idea don't work. I had a unused lower but changed it to a 9. But it turnes out I don't shoot it much as I prefer my built BRN22. But I see the point if you want an AR feel without the bullet price. Plus 22s are just fun anyways. Lot of BCA haters but work well for me. Plus I'm cheap.

 

[CoalCrackerAl]

Im going to get a BCA upper. And a PSA lower. I wonder if SW 15-22 mags will work? I like how they have the button to pull down as you load them.

 

[ParadiseDweller]

My mags are from a 22 bolt conversion that I sold. Turned out to be interchangeable. You may have same luck. I can't tell you who who makes it. Did have to file follower to work correct. You can see the pin for 10rd limitation per occupied territory regulations.