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Thoughts on the Mossberg 590a1 Retrograde?

Discussion in 'Shotguns' started by Fiv3r, May 31, 2019.

  1. Fiv3r

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    So this is a post-purchase, pre-shooting thread.

    I made a cash sale today and decided that it was New Gun Friday. I have been on the fence about the Shockwave. Even at 300 bucks I couldn't justify one. Handy, cool as all get out...but ultimately pretty niche to me.

    I have an old Ithaca 37 DSPS 20" gun that will slamfire. Lefty friendly, lightweight, classic cool furniture. However, I sorta want to retire it. It was sold to me by a friend and I wanted to replace it with a capable gun that would serve in a HD role as well as cabin defense duty.

    My LGS had Mossberg's 2019 Retrograde samples of the 500 and 590a1, and I couldn't resist. For those unfamiliar, the Retrograde line is new for 2019. They sport walnut furniture and either a blued or park finishes depending on the model. I have been looking at a 500 for awhile. The Retrograde version has a nice deep blue and looks like a gun found in a Police Cruiser. 18" barrel and a very reasonable $400-ish price tag.

    However, the 590a1's siren song was just too sweet to pass up. 20" barrel, military grade, heat shield, ghost ring rear sight with a bladed front, and a bayonet lug for good measure. Pair all that with a no nonsense park finish, and you are left with a gun that will last a lifetime plus. It easily fills the HD role and will certainly pull cabin defense duty this summer/fall.

    While it cost over $700, I feel I made a good long term investment as all the things one may switch out on a 500 series has been done from the get go (metal trigger guard/safety etc). This is my first Mossberg. I've had two 870s and the mentioned Ithaca regarding pump guns. It shoulders well, and I hope to run it pretty hard next week.

    I'm pretty stoked:)
     
  2. kozak6

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    No pictures?
     
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  3. Fiv3r

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    I still haven't even cleaned the gun yet:confused:

    I bought this as a "one and done" shotgun. It will do everything my Ithaca and last several lifetimes for no more than I plan on shooting it.

    I'm expecting rain storms tuesday, so i plan on running a few boxes through it then while the range is dead. I picked up some 00 buck today and have a box or two of cheap blaster target rounds of an indeterminate age in my stash.

    Truth be told, I haven't shot a shotgun in over 5 years. I haven't had much use for one, but this one was too purdy to pass up.

    Hopefully pics to follow midweek.
     
  4. Robbins290

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    Been waiting for a local place to have one i can handle. Love the pics online so far
     
  5. bannockburn

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    Saw a retro Model 500 the other day. Have to say I really like it with the wood furniture; gives it that old time/old school look to it!

    Looking forward to seeing how your new Model 590A1 turns out and how things go at the range.
     
  6. earlthegoat2

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    I personally, like the 590A1 with 18” barrel and 5+1 configuration.

    I have yet to see a wood stick offering for that. I could always buy the standard one and retrograde it myself with a stock set off eBay.
     
  7. Fiv3r

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    I'm still waiting to find some time to shoot this new scatter gun:( Work has been nuts.

    I love the feel of this gun. Its nearly as slick as my 50 year old Ithaca. The wood furniture makes for a solid feeling gun. I think the idea that it is an "offensive" or "defense" gun holds up. The amount if firepower a 20" tube offers along with the weight of the gun would make for a good door kicking firearm. That said, with as heavy as it is, I view it as more of a post up and wait gun. I'm a pretty beefy guy, but I don't think I would want to drag this 8lb monster all over hell´s half acre. However, I would feel well armed if its all I had.

    Hoping to get to the range tomorrow before vacation on friday:D
     
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    I have a Mossberg 500 as well as a couple of Remington 870's. If you have a choice, go with the 870.
     
  9. jmr40

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    I like an 870 far better than a 500. But the 590 levels the field quite a bit. I still have a slight preference for an 870. But wouldn't feel at all handicapped with a 590.
     
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  10. TheWarhammer

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    I bought a Shockwave and essentially turned it into a 590A1 with a pistol brace. Even thought the firearm was less than $300, I'm probably up to the same price (or more) as the 590A1 after all the parts I've changed. I played with it "as-is" for a while, but decided it would always be a novelty in its factory configuration. I tried a Crimson Trace "LaserSaddle", which made it easy to aim from the hip, but that felt really unnatural, and I kept wanting to bring the firearm up to sight down the barrel. When the CT LAser crapped out after only 2 days, I decided not to replace it. The Shockwave already has the 'A1's heavy walled barrel in a short 14" length. With a 6-position pistol brace, it's really compact, maneuverable package in confined spaces. I added an XS Big Dot bead to the front, a Magpul MOE fore end, and an Inforce weapon light. Really, the only thing it's missing is the bayonet lug (which I would never use anyway) and the heat shield (which only matters if you're using a bayonet). I'm pretty happy with the resulting "firearm>"

    Photo next to my AKM with 16" barrel for comparison:
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  11. Fiv3r

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    I've had two 870s. As a lefty, they don't work for me. I give a shotgun two strikes. I can deal with empty shells flying past my face OR a righty friendly crossbolt safety. The 870 fails both of these for me.

    I probably prefer the Ithaca 37 DSPS over either, but from a control standpoint I like the Mossberg.

    I do feel that you need to get up into the 590+ range for the payoff to be worth it. The A1 really feels like a serious piece of equipment. Certainly more robust than any Express, Persuader, or entry level shotgun I have ever handled. The Ithaca 37 kills it on ejecting at the bottom and overall weight. The 590A1 feels like a real hell and back gun.
     
  12. Jeb Stuart

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    Congrats Fiv3R. You have a really nice gun for sure.Love the metro grade! Now get ya a few thousand rounds and start training. Just had this order of Buckshot come in.

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    I have been hitting it pretty hard with a few shotguns lately, this has been a big help.

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  13. Fiv3r

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    I am embarrassed to say I still haven't even shot this big ol blaster. The weather didn't cooperate worth a hoot before going on vacation with the family.

    I'm hoping to get it out for a test run this next week.

    The good news is that I have been amassing various shells the last couple weeks. Ive got several boxes of target ammo, high brass, low brass, 000, 00, specialty 00/slug, etc. I think my shoulder will give out before I exhaust all my ammo.
     
  14. throdgrain

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    Those guns look great, I wish I could buy one over here :(
     
  15. Conelrad

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    I bought my 590A1 about 25 years or so ago, it came with walnut stocks. Still does the job.

    Nuttin' new under the sun, eh?

    S u b R o s a
     
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