THR Activists Successful in Swaying Romney!

[JKimball]

OK, Maybe my headline is a little bit of an exaggeration. But I was excited to see that three days after I started a thread in activism to get THR members to let Romney hear our voices telling him where he was wrong on assault weapons bans, he came out with a press release stating that he does not support bans on semi-automatic weapons. Apparently his comment about supporting bans of weapons of unusual lethality was referring to full auto guns, grenades, rocket launchers etc. Sure, it's a little wishy washy, but I think it is a big step forward to have him put it in print that he doesn't support banning semi-autos. Obviously he isn't as strong as some of the other candidates on the 2nd Amendment, but it is encouraging to see progress amongst the candidates in general.

Here's a link to the press release dated 12/28/07:
http://www.mittromney.com/News/Press-Releases/Second_Amendment

Here's a snippet from it:

"I do not support any new gun laws including any new ban on semi-automatic firearms. As president, I will follow President Bush's precedent of opposing any laws that go beyond the restrictions in place when I take office. The laws I do and will support include decades-old restrictions on weapons of unusual lethality like grenades, rocket launchers, fully automatic firearms and what are legally known as destructive devices and would include similar restrictions on new and exotic weapons of similar or even greater lethality.

I suggest we continue to let him hear our voices by leaving a comment at his website:
http://www.mittromney.com/CommentForm

I know the last Romney thread in general discussions got locked pretty quick. I hope this isn't getting too far into politics to be allowed by the moderators. I'm taking this statement from the moderator who locked that thread as my guide here:

Someone opens a thread specifically addressing Romney's stated views on gun control (which is a valid topic), and the next thing I know we're reading about all the other candidates, including the guy from the Ham Sandwich Party, and the UN even gets a line.

 

[Daemon688]

That man is the biggest flip flopper there is and it would be foolish to believe that these are his true views. He will say and do anything to get into office.

Mitt Romney: Life Long Hunter

 

[Javelin]

Great to hear. I.B.T.L!!!

 

[ReadyontheRight]

EXcept for Ron Paul, Romney is the only candidate talking about the Constitution and reding the size of Federal Government.

He is the only Republican candidate who actually talks about reding the size of the Federal Government since Ronald Reagan.

Let's keep hammering Gov. Romney with pro-RKBA messages. His only experience has been in Michigan and Massachusetts. Let us enlighten this man on the true value of RKBA.

 

[kentucky_smith]

www.trueromney.com

 

[Wes Janson]

Some of us still strongly believe that certain restrictions of NFA weapons need to be lifted. And some of us still believe that the entire concept of NFA weapons needs to be erased.

Sorry, still no.

 

[au1776]

Romney is quite simply, a success story. I'm sick of the left in America acting as though they have a monopoly on executive intelligence, and I look forward to Romney matching wits against the Democratic nom should he get the GOP nod.

 

[Biker]

Romney would pimp out his mother if he thought it would buy him a vote.

Biker

 

[TexasRifleman]

Romney would pimp out his mother if he thought it would buy him a vote.

Biker,

You're gonna have to dig far back and deep into our history to find a Presidential candidate that does NOT apply to.

Read a quote somewhere, wish I could find the source, went something like "Anyone that wants to be President you should treat as suspect since no one in their right mind should WANT the job"......

 

[ReadyontheRight]

Some of us still strongly believe that certain restrictions of NFA weapons need to be lifted. And some of us still believe that the entire concept of NFA weapons needs to be erased.

Sorry, still no.

Wes - I agree.

But in the real world...which current Presidential candidate would satisfy that requirement?

Many of us are trying to stop a new AWB. If you show us a realistic path back to the Bill of Rights, I'm with you.

Please show the way.

 

[Bill2e]

I will not vote for that man. If he is nominated I may not be able to vote. I would rather see the Dems win than a RINO. He scares me. I am anvid conservative voter this election scares me.

 

[Gunnerpalace]

Just remember if he does get in and turns his back you can always pwn all those responsible out of office like in 94.

 

[hqmhqm]

Romney is quite simply, a success story. I'm sick of the left in America acting as though they have a monopoly on executive intelligence, and I look forward to Romney matching wits against the Democratic nom should he get the GOP nod.

As a resident of MA, let me tell you about Mitt Romney and the assault weapon ban. He extended it here, even as it was sunset-ed federally. We cannot buy rifles with magazines over 10 rounds, or any "evil" features such as a flash hider. Of course no suppressors allowed in this state. And no handguns which are not on the secret attorney general's list, which means just a paltry selection from a handful of manufacturers. Mitt Romney supporting gun rights. Make me laugh!

He will say *anything* to get elected, and it makes me laugh to hear people discuss his having positions on any subject as anything except pure unadulterated ambition to get elected.

He came into office in MA saying all the things voters here wanted to here: yes to abortion rights, yes to gay rights, no to guns. Then, when he wants to run for president, he suddenly has an extreme change of heart.

Note, I am in favor of abortion rights, gay marriage, and opposed to gun control.

I think people referring to him as a "success story" is a pretty sorry thing. His "success" was being an executive in the Olympic Committee, which is a hugely profitable entertainment business which has been banking on the lie that it is about "amateur" athletics for the last half century. I don't find anything much to admire in running that, any more than any entertainment business. It is really much closer to Hollywood than most of the Democrats actually are. Mitt Romney will quite simply say whatever it takes to get elected. He went out and joined the NRA after he left office in MA. He would never have done that when he was running for governor here. Please, get a clue, people.

 

[zxcvbob]

Quote:
Romney would pimp out his mother if he thought it would buy him a vote.

Biker,
You're gonna have to dig far back and deep into our history to find a Presidential candidate that does NOT apply to.

Kusinich, Richardson, Paul, Hunter, Gravel, Keyes... and see how far it's gotten them, so I guess you're right. ;-)

 

[Dope]

As a resident of MA, let me tell you about Mitt Romney and the assault weapon ban. He extended it here, even as it was sunset-ed federally. We cannot buy rifles with magazines over 10 rounds, or any "evil" features such as a flash hider. Of course no suppressors allowed in this state. And no handguns which are not on the secret attorney general's list, which means just a paltry selection from a handful of manufacturers. Mitt Romney supporting gun rights. Make me laugh!

He will say *anything* to get elected, and it makes me laugh to hear people discuss his having positions on any subject as anything except pure unadulterated ambition to get elected.

He came into office in MA saying all the things voters here wanted to here: yes to abortion rights, yes to gay rights, no to guns. Then, when he wants to run for president, he suddenly has an extreme change of heart.

Note, I am in favor of abortion rights, gay marriage, and opposed to gun control.

I think people referring to him as a "success story" is a pretty sorry thing. His "success" was being an executive in the Olympic Committee, which is a hugely profitable entertainment business which has been banking on the lie that it is about "amateur" athletics for the last half century. I don't find anything much to admire in running that, any more than any entertainment business. It is really much closer to Hollywood than most of the Democrats actually are. Mitt Romney will quite simply say whatever it takes to get elected. He went out and joined the NRA after he left office in MA. He would never have done that when he was running for governor here. Please, get a clue, people.

Exactly. Thanks to Romney we have a permanent AWB here in MA, along with the ability to only buy a few brands of handguns. More or less S&W, Ruger, some Glocks, some Sigs, some Paras (not the high-caps of course), and a few others that my brain is not picking up right now. Not many anyway.

I'm really doubting he's had a sudden turnaround in his way of thinking. Especially when he lied about having the NRA's endorsement. What a joke.

Dope

 

[jakeswensonmt]

If you don't like Mitt Romney's opinion, wait 10 minutes and it will change.

 

[Daemon688]

The three candidates who have one in the primaries thus far:

McCain, Huckabee, and now Romney.

Out of these, who are our best bet? Huckabee. At least this man has a CCW license. He also said some key phrases in the debates. Something that especially struck me was when Huckabee said something along the lines of: "if people would value the second amendment as much as the first". The least gun-friendly candidates are Giuliani and Romney, their records prove that.

 

[jerkface11]

Romney will say whatever he thinks people want to hear. Just check his record on gun bans to see what he really thinks should be illegal.

 

[foob]

McCain seems the most consistent, and most moderate. Best of all, most sensible. Probably not going to win because of that. To win you either have to appeal to religious folks and hammer away at anti-abortion, anti-gay, anti-immigration like Huckabee, or bend wherever the wind blows like Romney.

Best you can hope for regarding firearms is nothing changes. It's never going to get better. What has been banned cannot be unbanned.

 

[camacho]

I suggest we continue to let him hear our voices by leaving a comment at his website:
http://www.mittromney.com/CommentForm

I've got a suggestion for him: Go Back Home!

 

[Prince Yamato]

I love THR... we sway a candidate in activism, get him to say exactly what we wish candidates would say and you guys bitch.

Let me let you in on a little newsflash: we're not going to get unrestricted NFA access in this election. Not even if the mighty Ron Paul becomes POTUS. You know why? Congress. No president is omnipotent. No modern congress is going to go, "OK, we'll sell machineguns without a background check at your local Walmart!" Not going to happen.

At least in the case of Romney, he said that he wouldn't sign a ban on AWs and NFA laws stay as is. If he's the worst case scenario, at least I can breathe a little easier.

Exactly. Thanks to Romney we have a permanent AWB here in MA, along with the ability to only buy a few brands of handguns.

Like NY, Massachusetts had a mirror of the federal ban signed in the 1990s. Also like NY, Massachusetts' ban had no sunset provision. Romney did what he had to to minimize the damage the would have been done by the liberals. If you lived in Texas, I could see your right to complain, but you live in MA. By those standards, he practically performed a coup on the Mass. Legislature.

Kudos to you THR guys who don't put all your eggs in the same basket. You're being pro-active will help us all when the Ron Paul golden ticket doesn't emerge.

 

[Biker]

The best indicator of future behavior is past behavior. Judge Romney accordingly.

Biker

 

[Kim]

Excellent. I think alot of people including POLITICIANS just are ignorant of firearms. He was. Maybe he is not now. I will be able to vote for him if necessary now. I hoped someone would speak to him.

 

[AZ-K9]

It is not clear to me how anyone interested in firearms could ever vote for, much less call for support for, a politician that wants to keep the status quo on firearms laws.

Not to mention his flip flop on the issue.

I like fully automatic guns, and grenades. I would like to be able to purchase them without having to get second mortgage.

Romney will never represent true gun owners rights and will never get my vote. I'd just as soon vote for Hillary, with the hopes that the nation somehow sees the error in these peoples ways and we somehow bounce back out of the mindless fog the country is in with regard to firearms laws.

 

[NGIB]

My 52 years on this planet may have turned me into a pessimist but I think it's more of a realist. Anyone who thinks we'll ever go back to pre-68 gun control is just plain kidding themselves. Nearly all the media and nearly all institutions of higher learning are anti-gun and the pro-gun faction speaks with a fractured voice if they speak at all. There is a large segment of gun owners fervently supporting Ron Paul - but IMO he has never had a chance to win the nomination. My realistic hope is getting someone elected that will not make the current situation worse.

My take on this election is that I hope the republicans start focusing on putting forth a candidate that can prevent Clinton or Obama from getting elected - and this is probably the best we can hope for. As I've done in every election, I will vote to keep someone out of office as it's the best I can do...