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I own guns chambered in both cartridges and if it were me no brainer I’d do the 6.5 Cm
Why?
I own guns chambered in both cartridges and if it were me no brainer I’d do the 6.5 Cm
Why?
jmr40 said:You don't see any advantage with the 30's until you move up to 200 gr bullets.
Ya I would think a 120 is better with copper.Hornady offers a 140 gmx, don't remember if anyone else offers heavier.
I've generally figgured you want all the velocity you can get out of a copper projectile, so running as heavy as a 140 or 175 in a short 6.5 or 30 would be limiting?
I don't shoot copper, and infact go completely the other way, so i have little real knowledge on the matter.
7.6 creedmoor
Thanks for the info!@LoonWulf, I've never had good results with GMX bullets and that 140gr has a G1 BC of .350 .... yikes! They probably had to fatten up the ogive to keep the length down ... just a guess though. The Barnes .30 cal 175gr LRX has a G1 BC of .508 but if I were shooting a 6.5 mm monolithic I'd probably choose the 127gr LRX with a BC of .468. It's not hard to get the 175gr bullet moving fast enough to be effective out to 600 yards particularly since the LRX has a larger cavity in the nose to aid in expansion at lower velocities. For me the .308 Win is a better choice but I don't expect that to be everyone's experience.
Personally I'd choose the 6.5, mostly just because I like it better.
Both will what you want, and for and handloader, at about the same cost.
the only real advantage the .308 has is in the used gun racks. You can sometimes get a much nicer older .308 for the same price as a newer 6.5.
This is just MY personal feeling on the mater, but if I'm going with a bullet heavier than 165gr in a .30, I want at least 06 capacity.
I have decided to go with the 6.5 CM
Mostly based on the great success I had with my little Swede sporter I owned years ago .. The Creed will be housed in a more accurate rifle with a better trigger and the Creed will have a abundance of cartridge and bullet offerings that my 6.5x55 would have never dreamed of ...
I feel the 6.5 Creed will do anything the 308 can do with less recoil ....
And the Creed will have a wide variety of high BC and SD bullets ...
I know what my 6.5x55 did with cheap PPU 139gr ammo did in the field and woods ... And my handloads with the long Hornady 160gr RN would do ..
I don't think. I could have made a bad decision... Just a better decision..
Don't forget the 156s! Oryx is tough enough.I have decided to go with the 6.5 CM
Mostly based on the great success I had with my little Swede sporter I owned years ago .. The Creed will be housed in a more accurate rifle with a better trigger and the Creed will have a abundance of cartridge and bullet offerings that my 6.5x55 would have never dreamed of ...
I feel the 6.5 Creed will do anything the 308 can do with less recoil ....
And the Creed will have a wide variety of high BC and SD bullets ...
I know what my 6.5x55 did with cheap PPU 139gr ammo did in the field and woods ... And my handloads with the long Hornady 160gr RN would do ..
I don't think. I could have made a bad decision... Just a better decision..
Then why put yourself through all of this stress. Buy one of each.Im reading all the replies... Honestly Im still haven’t decided...
@LoonWulf, I've never had good results with GMX bullets and that 140gr has a G1 BC of .350 .... yikes! They probably had to fatten up the ogive to keep the length down ... just a guess though. The Barnes .30 cal 175gr LRX has a G1 BC of .508 but if I were shooting a 6.5 mm monolithic I'd probably choose the 127gr LRX with a BC of .468. It's not hard to get the 175gr bullet moving fast enough to be effective out to 600 yards particularly since the LRX has a larger cavity in the nose to aid in expansion at lower velocities. For me the .308 Win is a better choice but I don't expect that to be everyone's experience.
JBMs calc puts it at 1.8ish not taking into account the plastic tip. Should be ok.I have to wonder how stable that 175 LRX really is in a 1:10 twist.
Yep, almost all mine are metric now, excluding the .223 and the .22-250(12 twist once the barrel burns out we're looking at much faster) I used to be one of the most die-hard .30 fans on this green earth, but efficiency is what it is and metrics seem to have it together on every front I care about.The .308 is a fine cartridge. However, I sold my last .30 cal a while ago in favor of cartridges in 6.5 (.260 AI) and 7 mm (7-08 and 280 AI). I don’t miss the .308.
You’ll like the 6.5 Creedmoor.