higgite
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After you take the tool off the press and shake it, how do you know you shook all the primers out and didn't leave one or two behind?
watch your primers!!!
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heck if I know! I'm too lazy to go through all that!
2bfree
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Well, you really need to contact Lee cause it really should feed the last few primers, mine does. AS far as to much trouble to empty it, really?,
I was joking.
I think mine has issues for the small primers cause sometimes they fall through the tube crooked also and then I have to dump and redo them. almost like the arms too wide.
>>> Same for powder I leave the jug sitting next to the dispenser every time there is powder in it.
I leave the jug open while loading so if I stop for any reason -- because of adjusting the progressive press or an interruption -- all of the powder in cases currently in the shellplate gets put back in the jug. I restart those cases from the beginning. I don’t trust my remembery.
I leave the jug open while loading so if I stop for any reason -- because of adjusting the progressive press or an interruption -- all of the powder in cases currently in the shellplate gets put back in the jug. I restart those cases from the beginning. I don’t trust my remembery.
buck460XVR
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You are getting awful defensive when most of us are just agreeing to what you have already said......
...and that is, when reloading, complacency/laziness has no place at the reloading bench. Assuming(I think you are saying, taking something for granted, not grated like cheese) is just going to get one in trouble. Most of the time when one reads of incidents of overpressure or squib loads, it comes down to someone assuming it was still Bullseye in the powder measure or assuming that the powder measure was still throwing 5.6 gr. Sometimes it's easier to assume than to take the time to make sure, i.e., complacency and laziness. Same goes for making sure our bench is organized and our tools are in proper working condition. That way we don't have to pull bullets because,
as for this problem,
from everything I have read in this thread....I'm thinkin' operator error more than primer brand.
You're not getting any sympathy here, and for good reason.
this is going to get shutdown so Ill say my peace. I'm getting a little defensive cause there is no reason to call someone lazy and the last comment is uncalled for.
The v max mixed with the HP could have been someone picking it up and putting in the tray or box. I lost one the other night and couldn't find (rolled under the plastic shelves-too much/heavy to move) it so I'm assuming the cat found it and someone tossed it in the box. I Weight each rifle charge by hand 2 times cause I'm so OCD. I check every 9mm charge at the 5th one using the turret press and autodrum. people make newbie mistakes. I didn't resize the brass after pulling the bullet and it obviously made for low neck tension. I was shocked that thing actually went into the case like it did.
I had a buddy who dabbles with gun smiting look at the 38 and he said it needs a new spring. he has a couple smiths that had the same issue and being I purchased this used from a cop buddy who used as a pocket/backup gun he said its probably really dirty. As I've stated in the 38spl thread if I seat the primer any harder cause some say its not deep enough ill break the ram handle. s&b more so than cci all have light primer strikes. cci I have only encounter 1-2 fail to fires. I've found several threads on here as well as other sites with the same j frame issue I have.
mmorris
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I would hate to see this thread closed because of a little friendly criticism .
I have started to prime off press exclusively and I find that instead of making the process more work it makes it easier and less stressful and actually a lot more fun. I can take a prepared case and charge it and seat the bullet without worrying about primer delivery and all the other things that go with that.
.I have started to prime off press exclusively and I find that instead of making the process more work it makes it easier and less stressful and actually a lot more fun. I can take a prepared case and charge it and seat the bullet without worrying about primer delivery and all the other things that go with that.
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mmorris
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Also, if somebody says you're being defensive the only response that isn't a game loser is "oh sorry about that"
A little something my wife has taught me
A little something my wife has taught me
buck460XVR
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What would have been a better, more PC term and not hurt your feelings? Irresponsible? How else does one explain they did not have the initiative to check and make sure they were using the right primers for the right application?
You yourself have admitted to not following correct procedure. It takes a strong personality to admit when they are wrong. Blaming something or someone else when the scenario could have been eliminated by a simple check or step that only takes a few seconds to complete, is only justifying the mistake to yourself. I myself have made plenty of mistakes while reloading........again, most of them are when I try to skip a step or don't double check to make sure everything is as I thought. I tell folks don't be that guy....and that guy is me. While I learn from my mistakes, I hope others can too. This is all any of us can hope.
As for the last comment, I'm not trying to be a jerk, only stating the obvious. No one here has taken your side as for the fault being the priming tool. If the tool really is faulty, then you need to replace it, but it's not the real reason you used the wrong primers. What folks(and myself) are saying is this. Learn from the mistake and move on......do not assume anything when reloading.
2bfree
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Any chance you are using the LP arm and not the SP. Really, you need to call Lee cause that is not right. I load 357,223, .300 Savage using the Lee and never had a problem. Every thing else I use my Dillon. It is hard to tell your problem when it changes from not enough gravity to going sideways
I'm using the black one currently. it seems the last 2-3 primers stay inside the little white arm that connects to the black box you feed them out of. when I flip them in the tray and put the tray back on the arm and on the press its like the tray and arm is out of spec because some turn sideways and upside down. they get stuck sideways in the little triangle hopper and when they fall into the white arm like 2 in 100 will be sideways as if the tools too loose in spec. I constantly have to take the hopper off cause they are sideways.Any chance you are using the LP arm and not the SP. Really, you need to call Lee cause that is not right. I load 357,223, .300 Savage using the Lee and never had a problem. Every thing else I use my Dillon. It is hard to tell your problem when it changes from not enough gravity to going sideways
2bfree
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This is why you should give Lee a call because that is not what is supposed to happen.
Hokie_PhD
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I'm a fairly new reloaded so this has been helpful to me.
Ohhihunterw2014 folks are being hard on you not to be jerks but to keep you from harming yourself. Personally I wouldn't have called you lazy, sloppy, or any other such name. But I think they were trying to beat a point into you. Sometimes it works other times people react like you and get defensive. Please don't let that hinder the message, especially if you don't like it. Often we need to hear things we don't like the most.
Like you, I've made some mistakes, and I'm very lucky to not have harmed myself.
That said even being extra careful mistakes happen. So we need to do all we can to reduce the chance.
Personally I empty any tool I use when I'm done and right now I only load 223 and 9mm. And I never load them both in the same session.
Please call Lee, and why not reassess your procedures? I like the pic of the labeled primer tools. It seems that would be perfect for you. I don't know about you but the few bucks to buy another primer tool seems like such a small price to pay to solve your problem.
Anyway, I hope I've offered something that is useful. If not know I'm not trying to be a jerk just offering some things to think about
Ohhihunterw2014 folks are being hard on you not to be jerks but to keep you from harming yourself. Personally I wouldn't have called you lazy, sloppy, or any other such name. But I think they were trying to beat a point into you. Sometimes it works other times people react like you and get defensive. Please don't let that hinder the message, especially if you don't like it. Often we need to hear things we don't like the most.
Like you, I've made some mistakes, and I'm very lucky to not have harmed myself.
That said even being extra careful mistakes happen. So we need to do all we can to reduce the chance.
Personally I empty any tool I use when I'm done and right now I only load 223 and 9mm. And I never load them both in the same session.
Please call Lee, and why not reassess your procedures? I like the pic of the labeled primer tools. It seems that would be perfect for you. I don't know about you but the few bucks to buy another primer tool seems like such a small price to pay to solve your problem.
Anyway, I hope I've offered something that is useful. If not know I'm not trying to be a jerk just offering some things to think about
All good thanks for the help. Irritated plus arguing just didn't mix with me today.
Hokie_PhD
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I understand
My backs been killing me today so I've been grumpy too.
Hope you have a better day tomorrow.
And hope you find a safe solution
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