What are my choices for a 45-70?

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If I were to add a 45-70 to my list... what options do I have as far as guns?

I know there's the "Ruger #1".

And I think Marlin makes a lever..

That's all I know.. where else should I be looking?
 
45-70

Someone even makes a bolt action. The 45-70 is a very accurate round. I have an Springfield Trapdoor that shoots rather well. I also have a No.1 in 45-70 that can drive tacks. An interesting round that can do it all. Good shooting!
 
Marlin guide gun. It is a lever gun with an 18 or so inch barrel. I've wanted one of those since forever. I would highly recommend one since I have done a lot of research on them.
 
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http://www.magnumresearch.com/news_detail.asp?story=article_bfr45_70.asp

In some juristictions, this BFR probably qualifies as a rifle.
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45-70 is also available in a T/C Encore pistol or carbine.

NEF offers a single-shot 45-70 for not much $$.

Trapdoor Springfield is probably the coolest 45-70.

I will someday get a Marlin Guide Gun in 45-70.
 
I've had the trap door Springfield (2)
The Ruger #3
A Sharps carbine
A Marlin 1895 (2)
A Marlin Guide Gun

I still have the Guide Gun, its the best of the lot IMHO.
 
It all depends.

Do you want a lever action, or a single shot? (Do they make a repeater bolt-action?)

Marlin makes multiple variants of the 45/70. There is the Marlin 1895 Guide Gun, which is a 18.5inch barrel with a straight grip. It can come in stainless steel, blued steel, ported, or unported. Ported is loud. :what:
Then, there is the regular Marlin 1895, which is a 22inch barrel with a curved (traditional) grip. It comes in blued steel, and is unported.
Finally, there is the Marlin 1895 Cowboy, which is a 26inch octagonal barrel, and holds 9 rounds :uhoh:
 
Skunky,
Lots of praise here for the Marlin Guide Gun. I, for one, will not join that bandwagon. It has low capacity (4+1). Up until last year, they were all ported...meaning VERY loud. And that half-length magazine tube really detracts from the authentic looks. Sold mine. But now I'm looking for Marlin 1895CB. Classic looks and 9-10 rounds of 500 grain mayhem. It points very well. That's the one I'd recommend. BUT...look into long-range cowboy shooting. You might decide, like me that those old-timey falling block and/or rolling block single rifles with vernier tang sights are very appealing! You can get an H&R Buffalo Classic single-shot 45-70 for little money.
 
New production winchester Lightweight 1886!
NEF Handi rifle.
Browning 1895 High Wall


I'll think of a few more.


David
 
Skunky..

Don't worry about my Cowboy Logistics (TM).

I'm asking because I might have to formulate Buffalo Logistics (TM) :neener:

If I end up carrying a 9 shot 45-70.. and 9 shots of 45-70 ain't enough... Well, I know I'm in the wrong place..

400-500 grainers will down pretty much anything...

What's a Ruger #3?
 
What's a Ruger #3?
Its the "carbine" version of the Ruger #1 rifle. Not as pretty and a little lighter but the same action. I thought they still made it...30/40 krag, 45/70.
Recoil is awesome with hot 45/70 loads but the gun held together:D
 
Marlin 45-70 CB rifle, the rifling is Cut type, not micro groove. It will shoot with jacketed or cast bullets. For a 45-70 I prefer the octagon barrel. You can have the barrel or magazine custom cut to any length you prefer. It doesn't have the ports that blow your hearing out when your hunting and don't have ear plugs in.
I have 2 trapdoor 1884 models, 1881 Marlin I use the most. It has 28" oct barrel and 1/2 magazine and double set triggers.
Depends on if you want lots of power go new. Like old time find a antique or copy of one. And if you intend to reload or shoot factory ammo.
Choices in some what chronological order:
US Springfield trapdoors, Remington Rolling block, 1874 Sharps single shot, 1881 Marlin, 1885 Win. S.S., 1886 Winchester, Marlin 1895 original version with square bolt, new 1895 Marlin with 336 action round bolt, and the Ruger No. 1 models.
 
How about something a bit racy looking, ya know, give the old gal some new threads............

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I also have a Guide Gun and love it! The .45-70 EAA side-by-side double rifle looks very cool too.
 
Marlin 1895 (various models and bbl lengths)
Winchester makes a couple of models of levers in 45/70
Ruger No 1.
Gibbs sells rechambered Enfields in 45/70
EAA sells a double rifle in 45/70
TC Encore (pistol & rifle bbls)
BFR revolver
Someone makes a double rifle called the Kodiak--think Cabela's sells it.
 
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This from Gibbs is so cool!! I never considered a 45-70 in a Enfield action before!! (Corrected to appease the world)

Where can I see a pic of a Ruger #3??

Anybody make these in a pump action??
 
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Twoblink,
I just went to the Gibbs web site. Holy Guacamole!! Add a couple more rifles to my "gotta have" list.
 
I don't think anyone has asked this yet, but what do you plan to use your newly acquired .45-70 for? Hunting big game?, target shooting, plinking, historical re-enactments?

For an all around rifle which will withstand heavy loads for hunting big things with teeth and claws I would opt for the Marlin lever. Get a newer model with Ballard type rifling and not the older micro-groove version so you can shoot cast bullets in it. I favor the Guide Gun but that is just my preference. The Ruger #1 is a good, strong action in a single shot. I don't think Ruger sells the #3 anymore but they can be found on the used market. The so called "Trap door" Springfield single shot is historically a significant arm in American history but it is also perhaps the weakest action of the lot and mild factory loads should not be exceeded. The only bolt repeater I know of is the above mentioned Gibbs Rifle built on a Lee-Enfield action (not Mauser) Many years ago it was popular to use Siamese Mauser actions to barrel to .45-70 but they are kind of hard to find now.

The Winchester/Browning 1886 is expensive, the various Italian copies of Sharps actions are OK if that is what you want.

Decisions, decisions.
 
Not trying to pick nits (really), but the Gibbs rifle is an Enfield. Not a problem, probably, since many think the Enfield is a better "battle rifle."

Best bet for a No. 3 is an auction site or GunsAmerica. They haven't been made in 10, 20 years or so (something like that - a long time). General idea is a No. 1 with a carbine-style stock and downmarket wood. Think Ruger .44 Mag carbine + Ruger No. 1 and picture the offspring...
 
on a more serious note, gibbs takes perfectly good historical rifles and butchers them. the ir last run of summit rifles were number4 actions with the perfectly serviceable rear sight removed and replaced with that godawful williams blade.
 
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