What happens if we CC where we shouldn't? (accidentally)

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It would depend upon each states’ firearms laws. Although I think it is safe to say that I’d you conceal a firearm in a state where there is no constitutional carry law, and you are not carrying a permit from a state that has reciprocity with your that state you are in trouble if discovered because your in violation of the law. Also you have to be careful to ascertain whether you can exercise constitutional carry in any state with such a law. Some states allow it only by residents of the state. It’s a mess.
 
I don't see the excuse of I didn't know what state I was in going anywhere. I would not expect leniency there from a restrictive state. I'd expect to be made an examle of.
 
What happens is you are subject to the laws of the state you are in. If you violate the law you're subject to arrest, prosecution, fine and/or imprisonment, possibly loss of rights on a permanent basis. Depending on the state(s).

I recall a case where a law abiding PA licensed person crossed a bridge into NJ by mistake or other unintentional reason. I do not recall the outcome but it could not have been good. NJ is decidedly hostile to gun rights.

As a side issue, as a prospective juror long ago in Newark NJ, an alleged drug dealer allegedly defended himself with a pistol on the street from someone trying to shoot or rob him. During the usual questioning process prior to seating the jury the defense picked me off. I left thinking at least with me he would have had fair treatment on the gun charge should the evidence support justified self defense.
 
unclenunzie said:
I recall a case where a law abiding PA licensed person crossed a bridge into NJ by mistake or other unintentional reason. I do not recall the outcome but it could not have been good. NJ is decidedly hostile to gun rights.
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It might be this one: a Philadelphia woman with a PA permit, while carrying, crossed into NJ going to Atlantic City. She was stopped, arrested, and was facing three years in jail.

Huge public outcry, the NJ governor at the time, Cristie, pardoned her.
 
Speedo66 said:
It might be this one: a Philadelphia woman with a PA permit, while carrying, crossed into NJ going to Atlantic City. She was stopped, arrested, and was facing three years in jail.

Huge public outcry, the NJ governor at the time, Cristie, pardoned her.
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That's the one, thanks. Even with the pardon what a horrible experience. Like the nursing student case (from Tenn I think). Visiting NYC 9/11 site, saw no guns sign, asked a cop where she could store her P32 before going in, and was arrested, of course. The pig of a mayor bloomberg at the time publicly speculated that her headache powder in her purse might have been cocaine. Of course it was aspirin. I believe ultimately they dropped charges in her case, as she would have lost her career as a nurse before it even began.

There's no real moral to these cases, just good advise to know and heed the local law. One day I'd like to return to NJ and NYC on visits as both are very nice places, and be able to carry.
 
unclenunzie said:
That's the one, thanks. Even with the pardon what a horrible experience. Like the nursing student case (from Tenn I think). Visiting NYC 9/11 site, saw no guns sign, asked a cop where she could store her P32 before going in, and was arrested, of course. The pig of a mayor bloomberg at the time publicly speculated that her headache powder in her purse might have been cocaine. Of course it was aspirin. I believe ultimately they dropped charges in her case, as she would have lost her career as a nurse before it even began.

There's no real moral to these cases, just good advise to know and heed the local law. One day I'd like to return to NJ and NYC on visits as both are very nice places, and be able to carry.
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Lots of gun cases in NYC came out of the airports. People either forgot or thought they wouldn't be caught, but guns were found in their luggage and they were arrested. I recall one was an off duty police officer from out of state, this was before HR218.

In NY a case can be dismissed by a judge "in the interest of justice", I think that's what happened to the LEO.
 
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I think at this point, its more about keeping you confused and off balance than it has anything to do with our safety or well being.

You cant go through the day without breaking somebody's rule, no matter where you are, and you're probably doing it without ever knowing.

You have two choices, do what it takes to take care of you, and deal with the consequences after the fact, or follow their rules and hope for the best. With a BIG emphasis on HOPE.

Look at it this way, maybe youll luck out, and fall under the no bail, no prosecution, right back on the streets, etc that the courts are doling out these days. Dont count on getting your gun back though. :)
 
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I have heard all my life that ignorance of the law is no excuse. I imagine it would apply to "accidentally", especially in this day and age.
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That is often-repeated, but realistically, who knows all the laws?
Cops don't. (but know where to look)
Lawyers don't. (but know where & how to look)
I don't, and when I try to read the laws, they're undecipherable, as they're in legalese.
It feels like a booby trap sometimes.
 
It can be challenging but when it comes to firearms it pays to be diligent about obeying all laws. You may run into a cop or a DA who may let you off easy, but then again you may not and penalties can be stiff. If I lived in a strong anti gun state with complicated laws and aggressive enforcement I probably wouldn't carry. I'd take my chances statistically with being able to avoid trouble rather than being caught inadvertently violating a law. If you end up in prison you're at the mercy of the same people you carried a gun to defend yourself against in the first place.
 
There can be some discretion on the part of whoever discovers the mistake. GA issues carry permits, but you now don't need to have one. There are some guys who don't understand that there are still limitations on WHERE you carry.

We had the local county fair a couple of weeks ago and carry inside the fairgrounds is not allowed. The SAR team I work with does a lost kids and parents booth every year to help reunite kids with parents. We also assist with any medical emergencies and are another set of eyes watching for problems. One of our guys spotted a guy with a shirt that wasn't long enough to completely cover his CC and notified LE working the fair.

LE could have arrested him. But informed him that carry was illegal there and told him to take it to his car.
 
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