wuchak
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1000 ft lbs for a white tail? Those are some super tough deer in your neck of the woods.
A top load 158 gr .357 magnum gives 688 ft lbs at the muzzle so a .357 with this round jammed into bambi, at any angle, wouldn't be enough to kill it humanely?
Even the old Remington 30-30 170 gr core-lokt has a MPBR of 200 yards for deer and it still has 990 ft lbs of energy. At 300 yards it will have dropped 21.8 inches and have 719 ft lbs of energy.
The bullet has plenty left to do what's needed at 300 yards if you have the skills to put it on target (which many claim to have but few actually can do it at the range and even fewer can do it in the field, your claim of "I think I can" tells me where you current skill level is.). A 45-70 would be even harder to hit with at 300 yards since it's trajectory is much more rainbow like. With a 300 grain bullet a 45-70 has a point blank range of 164 yards for deer. At 300 yards it will have 768 ft lbs of energy left and will have dropped 43.47 inches. Move to a 405gr bullet and the MPBR drops to 130 yards and a 300 yards you'll have 860 ft lbs of energy and will have dropped 68.85 inches.
Go to Remington's site and download a copy of the Shoot program. Spend some time playing with the various settings and checking the trajectories for various calibers and loads. An hour with that program and you'll have a better understanding of trajectory and energy than the vast majority of hunters.
A top load 158 gr .357 magnum gives 688 ft lbs at the muzzle so a .357 with this round jammed into bambi, at any angle, wouldn't be enough to kill it humanely?
Even the old Remington 30-30 170 gr core-lokt has a MPBR of 200 yards for deer and it still has 990 ft lbs of energy. At 300 yards it will have dropped 21.8 inches and have 719 ft lbs of energy.
The bullet has plenty left to do what's needed at 300 yards if you have the skills to put it on target (which many claim to have but few actually can do it at the range and even fewer can do it in the field, your claim of "I think I can" tells me where you current skill level is.). A 45-70 would be even harder to hit with at 300 yards since it's trajectory is much more rainbow like. With a 300 grain bullet a 45-70 has a point blank range of 164 yards for deer. At 300 yards it will have 768 ft lbs of energy left and will have dropped 43.47 inches. Move to a 405gr bullet and the MPBR drops to 130 yards and a 300 yards you'll have 860 ft lbs of energy and will have dropped 68.85 inches.
Go to Remington's site and download a copy of the Shoot program. Spend some time playing with the various settings and checking the trajectories for various calibers and loads. An hour with that program and you'll have a better understanding of trajectory and energy than the vast majority of hunters.