Windham Weaponry: Owners Opinions

[Cluster Bomb]

I know tuns of people that are very happy with their ww. I shot about 600 rounds in one at a friends. I got good acuracy at 150. I'm not an ar man but if I was going to get one id get a ww . And believe me when I say they are well built.

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[meanmrmustard]

I know guns of people that are very happy with their ww. I shot about 600 rounds in one at a friends. I got good acuracy at 150. I'm not an ar man but if I was going to get one id get a ww . And believe me when I say they are well built.

Thank you for your input. It is appreciated.

 

[Quentin]

...Colt isn't an option. I won't own another, as specified.

I wouldn't mind another build, but PSA is back ordered constantly. Maybe they'll be freed up by February...maybe.

Did you have a ban version Colt? From most reports I've read current 6920s are excellent and of course hold their value well (for resale).

As you say, PSA is swamped with orders but I did get their midlength 16" upper recently. They have a fall sale now with uppers going for $280. You'd need their $140 BCG and $15 charging handle. Then a rear sight and a complete lower. It can happen for under $800 and from what I've seen better quality than Windham (though I've only handled, not shot a WW).

 

[conhntr]

I cant imagine soending a 1000$ on a noname no reputation ar when a colt/bcm is vailable at the same price point! A off bramnd would have to be in the 500-600$ range to be worth comsidering. Even there i would rather get a ak or mini14. Honestly for 400$ id consider one

 

[meanmrmustard]

I cant imagine soending a 1000$ on a noname no reputation ar when a colt/bcm is vailable at the same price point! A off bramnd would have to be in the 500-600$ range to be worth comsidering. Even there i would rather get a ak or mini14. Honestly for 400$ id consider one

Thanks for the comments. I'll take those under advisement. I've no use for Minis, as I find them crude at best. I already own several AKMs, have that base covered.

However, please read OP. several of your points have been addressed in a thread entitled "...Owners Opinions". Once again, I'll not own Colts ever again. Personal preference.

Also, use spell check.

 

[Cluster Bomb]

I don't think conhntr knows anything about WW and who runs it...

 

[meanmrmustard]

I don't think conhntr knows anything about WW and who runs it...

Maybe not. It's alright though, all are welcome. But the opinions I pay attention to are those who own WW or Sig. I don't see what anyone else offers that the two manufacturers I inquired about don't already. As I stated, barrel steel doesn't confront me. Both are 7075 aluminum, m4 feed ramps, CLed bore, f marked sight, staked key, blah blah blah. Boring mil spec crap to a "t".

Owners who can attest to reliability and accuracy are most welcome to share experiences with their rifles. I admit having no range time with the two I've listed (those models specifically) which is why I ask.

 

[Cluster Bomb]

The sigs do look good and feel good. If its the same one I looked at at wallys it seems decent. But I was more interested in a 22ar at the time.

I held a colt not to long ago. It was like a cadailac.

I'm still kinda favoring WW because its made in Maine. Just few towns over.

I do believe most ars are all the same. Just some look better but generaly speaking they are all the same even specd out.

 

[back40]

honestly if i were new to the ar game and looking to spend a thousand bucks on a carbine, i'd end up doing one of two things. locally, i just saw a colt 6920 with the fde receiver and magpul goodies for $1100. it would be tough to pass that up. the other option i would entertain for a standard config carbine would be bravo co. to my mind both are probably the best choices for the 1k mark. you can spend less and do just fine, and you can spend more and get a little more, but for a rock solid weapon in that price range imho those are the best choices.

that said, i've read of your beef with colt's customer service, and i won't fault any man for shunning a company that he feels treated him poorly. if customer service doesn't treat me well, i don't takeit lightly. however, i will give most companies the chance to make it right, especially if the incident involved one rep. recently i had to send a rifle back to a mfr for the second time, because after i detailed the problem and sent it in the first time, i recieved it back and it wasn't fixed. the issue's origin is still uknown, but there is no way that they could've checked the gun that they supposedly fixed, and not realized that is still didn't work properly. the end result is that they've replaced the rifle altogether with a new one, that i'vepicked up today and will take the the range tomorrow. inspection at the shop when i picked it up today shows that it works properly. pita, yes. a waste of my time, yes. but i'll still buy products from the co., as ultimately they've come through.

all this to say perhaps colt may not deserve a second chance, but it may benefit you to give them one anyway. i've dealt with colt's customer service and they were excellent to me. i understand this may fall on deaf ears, as some men's minds are made up and that's it. if this is you, so be it. as i said, i don't fault you.

enough of my rambling....best of luck in your choice.

 

[meanmrmustard]

colt 6920

best of luck in your choice.

No.

Thank you.

 

[back40]

figured as much just giving my honest opinion. i would look hard at bravo company unless you can find the ww online and have it shipped and transferred for less.

 

[meanmrmustard]

figured as much just giving my honest opinion. i would look hard at bravo company unless you can find the ww online and have it shipped and transferred for less.

Any experience with the Sig M400?

 

[OilyPablo]

Two things stand out about the Sig: Unique lower, accuracy, good reputation and great reviews.

I suddenly in my Saturday evening tiredness remembered why I didn't get the WW, Sig or Colt - they are all carbine length. I wanted a mid length. I even emailed WW to ask them if they make a mid length.

 

[back40]

ubnfortunately, no. as i said, i've handled them, but have no first hand experience with running them. my local pd just acquired 516 sbr rifles for patrol, and i was at the range when they did the initial sight in/ familiarity run. i would think sig would be a fine choice as well.

 

[TheLostOtter]

I think Windham makes a solid AR, but I wouldn't spend anywhere near $1000 for one. You should be able to shave a couple hundred off that price online and have S&W, Armalite, Sig, and Windham all priced pretty similarly.

If you are looking to spend $1000 Id suggest the BCM since you don't want a Colt.

 

[meanmrmustard]

I think Windham makes a solid AR, but I wouldn't spend anywhere near $1000 for one. You should be able to shave a couple hundred off that price online and have S&W, Armalite, Sig, and Windham all priced pretty similarly.

If you are looking to spend $1000 Id suggest the BCM since you don't want a Colt.

It's probably going to be the WW or Sig, quite possibly a build.

I'm really looking for owners to chime in about their rifles.

 

[mshootnit]

decent accuracy in the reviews I read. Somewhere around 1.5-2" accuracy at 100 yds. but not sub moa.
The trigger is going to be a single stage that breaks at 8lbs give or take a few ounces. It will have some creep typical of stock single stage triggers.

I wouldn't shy away from it in the 800-850 price range if that was your upper limit. It will group with a Colt and do what you need it to.

 

[dcarch]

Pardon my ignorance, but isn't Windham Weaponry simply a repackaged Bushmaster? I haven't been following the AR game as much lately, and honestly, the first I heard of Windham was the other day when I came across one in a local sporting goods store.

 

[mshootnit]

Another option would be to find a decent deal on a quality stripped lower, and build it up with good parts from Stag and Geissele. Then find a good upper on GB. I have done this a few times and come out well under 700 with a darned nice rifle.

 

[meanmrmustard]

decent accuracy in the reviews I read. Somewhere around 1.5-2" accuracy at 100 yds. but not sub moa.
The trigger is going to be a single stage that breaks at 8lbs give or take a few ounces. It will have some creep typical of stock single stage triggers.

I wouldn't shy away from it in the 800-850 price range if that was your upper limit. It will group with a Colt and do what you need it to.

Not too bad. Trigger sounds a bit heavy, like a DAO pull almost. The Sig lists its break in the area of 6lbs. Typical mil spec trigger pull. As for the grouping, I could live with that for what I need it for. I'm on the fence, and wanting to be pushed towards one rifle. The WW seems like a good rifle, but I don't want to immediately need to trigger swap.

How bout that Sig? I'm reading about it more and more. I'm liking it.

 

[mshootnit]

dcarch
I think for the most part you are right but whenever a new operation gets going sources for some parts are going to change. That is not to say for the worse though. I expect Windham to be putting out as good or better product than the old Bushy within a couple years as they get going.

 

[powder]

Have you shot, owned, or inspected a Sig M400?

I've seen several SIGs run multi-training days w/o hiccups: M400s and the 5.56 model. Outstanding rifles. GB dealer "Northern Firearms".

 

[meanmrmustard]

I've seen several SIGs run multi-training days w/o hiccups: M400s and the 5.56 model. Outstanding rifles. GB dealer "Northern Firearms".

Thank you for the input.

 

[JPG19]

Walmarts are not independently owned whatsoever. I live in Bentonville, AR, home of Walmart headquarters and all of their vendors (a very nice place, btw. Lots of money and things are well taken care of) so we are all intimately familiar with how Walmart runs. My sister works in their corporate office and would know of that were the case. They do choose to not sell guns in some walmarts and I admit I don't know why, but I'm certain it's not because they are independently owned. I would imagine it has to do with local gun laws and local folks' attitudes towards guns.

 

[meanmrmustard]

Pardon my ignorance, but isn't Windham Weaponry simply a repackaged Bushmaster? I haven't been following the AR game as much lately, and honestly, the first I heard of Windham was the other day when I came across one in a local sporting goods store.

Windham is what Bushy was before it turned to crap. So it's the Bushmaster folks making their own stuff, and the newer Bushy is Freedom owned, same as Remington and Marlin. They package junk and pass it off as quality. I've researched the Windham outfit: new, yes, but they took a lot of rifle making experience with them. From my reading, they're doing things right.