Cluster Bomb
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The only thing a ww owner told me he didn't like about his Ww was the magazine he got supermarket mags because it felt cheap.
Windham Weaponry: Owners Opinions
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Capybara
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Hi
I mainly have been using the SRC for plinking, I am easily hitting soda cans at 150 yards with irons but I have not yet sighted in the Nikon optic, it's on my to do list. So a soda can is about 5" tall at 150 yards? I am not a great shot with a rifle, clays are my game. Taking this to my first Appleseed so I can become a good rifle shot.
I mainly have been using the SRC for plinking, I am easily hitting soda cans at 150 yards with irons but I have not yet sighted in the Nikon optic, it's on my to do list. So a soda can is about 5" tall at 150 yards? I am not a great shot with a rifle, clays are my game. Taking this to my first Appleseed so I can become a good rifle shot.
meanmrmustard
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So do pmags, but i trust those. I don't like proprietary goodies anyway. Thanks for the heads up.
marine 97-03
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Hey mr mustard long time on talk...those WW guns are on my to get list....every review I've seen and guys I've talked to (at work) that own them love them and they will reply rather quickly if you email them with any questions ....they've been doing the AR thing for a while now (bushmaster) and the fact you can get in touch with them makes me feel a lot better.
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wojownik
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Concur. "Off brand" means a product sold inexpensively under a relatively unfamiliar brand name and often considered inferior to better known brands.
While WW may be relatively unfamiliar brand compared to some, they are an improved offshoot off the relocated former Bushmaster. They are not inexpensive, but they do show quality work. I have handled several of their R16M4A4T models, and have been generally impressed from what I have seen.
My only nit (and a verrry superficial one a that) is that I don't personally like their rollmark - something about that script strikes me as too ... fancy? On the other hand, the superficial plus is that the anodized coating on the WW rifles I've seen is quite a bit nicer than the old Bushmaster or Colt rifles I have.
While WW may be relatively unfamiliar brand compared to some, they are an improved offshoot off the relocated former Bushmaster. They are not inexpensive, but they do show quality work. I have handled several of their R16M4A4T models, and have been generally impressed from what I have seen.
My only nit (and a verrry superficial one a that) is that I don't personally like their rollmark - something about that script strikes me as too ... fancy? On the other hand, the superficial plus is that the anodized coating on the WW rifles I've seen is quite a bit nicer than the old Bushmaster or Colt rifles I have.
meanmrmustard
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Off brand? Obsessing? Neither of these statements are reflected in my choice of rifle. I sincerely doubt one could call Sig Sauer an off brand with a straight face.
Once again, I shop locally, don't do transfers, and don't buy whole rifles online. There's no reputation that a dealer can have that trumps my personal inspection. I'm getting what I pay for, and I've looked at it personally. That's how I conduct my business. I could buy a lower locally, and have an upper built how I want, that would be acceptable. But, for proprietary rifles under one banner, I want to go over it with a fine tooth comb. So no, I don't obsess, I scrutinize.
meanmrmustard
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Thanks for that. I'd like to email them, ask some questions, and see what happens. I'm of the train of thought that good CS is a valuable selling point, more so than a roll mark. If they offer quality, courtesy, and at a similar or lesser price point than certain higher priced brands, then it's a no brainer for me.
i think most people will agree that the upper is way more important than the lower in terms of build quality. so why is that you'll purchase an upper online, but insist on buying a lower locally? what are you "inspecting" on a lower that you're worried about having issues with purchasing sight unseen? your logic just doesn't make sense to me, that's all. if you are comfortable buying an upper and having it shipped, there is absolutely no reason not to buy a whole rifle and have it shipped. the transfer is done when your local shop receives the rifle in the exact manner that it will be if you buy it locally. buying local to support local business is one thing, but your talk about inspecting the rifle and not doing transfers doesn't make any sense.
eta...i checked out a sig m400 srp over the weekend. seemed like a perfectly fine rifle. i don't care for the ambi mag release, but that's me. with about 60 ars in the shop i didn't see one ww, so still haven't been able to inspect one.
eta...i checked out a sig m400 srp over the weekend. seemed like a perfectly fine rifle. i don't care for the ambi mag release, but that's me. with about 60 ars in the shop i didn't see one ww, so still haven't been able to inspect one.
meanmrmustard
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I'm digging the Sig M400 with the Magpul crap already on it and Troy flip up sight for $917.
If I have the upper built to my specs from an online source, I'm already in for having to ship back if not to my liking. If I purchase a rifle from a shop that has a defect that I catch before flipping the cash, then it ain't coming home and I'm not going to be responsible for sending it to the manufacturer. Makes all the sense to me.
i think i get where you're coming from, but still, shipping the whole thing back isn't much (if any) more than shipping back the upper. most gunbroker dealers even offer an inspection period.
now if you're one of those guys that frets over teeny blemsihes, and want absolute perfect fit and finish, well ok. i'm not one of those guys, at least not with an ar.
now if you're one of those guys that frets over teeny blemsihes, and want absolute perfect fit and finish, well ok. i'm not one of those guys, at least not with an ar.
meanmrmustard
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I kinda am. For what they cost, I want to be the one putting blemishes on it.
Part of me thinks I may try Colt again, but I've got that really bad taste in my mouth.
i hear ya. i'm that way with most any other gun, but over the years i've loosened up a bit. major blemishes are still a no-no, but most everything i own are shooters, and although i don't beat on them, i don't mind a bit of "character"
that fde anodized colt i looked at looked pretty darn nice!
that fde anodized colt i looked at looked pretty darn nice!
meanmrmustard
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The Sigs wearing OD furniture, A3 flat top with A2 front sight, f marked, with barrel cut. Sexy.i hear ya. i'm that way with most any other gun, but over the years i've loosened up a bit. major blemishes are still a no-no, but most everything i own are shooters, and although i don't beat on them, i don't mind a bit of "character"
that fde anodized colt i looked at looked pretty darn nice!
marine 97-03
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Mr. Mustard ...I don't think your "taking a chance" on a WW AR info on them at first was a little hard to come by.....but never was it bad....and now reviews on there guns are in abundance with some time on google. From what I have put together on my on I would say they should be every bit as good as a PSA and have a lifetime transferable warranty that's says a lot in it self.
meanmrmustard
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I didn't previously know that they had that type of warranty. That's actually really great.
marine 97-03
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I didn't either ...until last night while at work I was reading a review ...might have been in the truth about guns can't remember I read several ...any way they made reference to there warranty and I was a bit taken back ....so I look that up and there you have it
meanmrmustard
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Only rifles I've personally owned that had that kinda warranty were Hi Point carbines, and they're built like tanks. This is good news.I didn't either ...until last night while at work I was reading a review ...might have been in the truth about guns can't remember I read several ...any way they made reference to there warranty and I was a bit taken back ....so I look that up and there you have it
Capybara
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Yes, that warranty also played part in my decision to buy a WW. I appreciate any company that will stand behind their products that way.
Quentin
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A good warranty is nice but only goes so far - the quality of the rifle is what concerns me. I warrant my AR builds but then I only build for myself. (And research/select every part myself.)
(And research/select every part myself.)Cluster Bomb
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I know ww has an online warranty application. Idk if u must fill it out for the warranty to apply.
I personal would want an ar built in quality like ww than dpms or bushmaster
I have handled a colt. And I was disappointed.
Building your own I feal has its drawbacks imo
I think I am in love with ww varmiter with 5round mag that takes standard mags aswell. But I can't validate spending that kind of money...thing ill wate out the ar frenzy lol. And buy an ak.
I personal would want an ar built in quality like ww than dpms or bushmaster
I have handled a colt. And I was disappointed.
Building your own I feal has its drawbacks imo
I think I am in love with ww varmiter with 5round mag that takes standard mags aswell. But I can't validate spending that kind of money...thing ill wate out the ar frenzy lol. And buy an ak.
Flashcube
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Sturmgewehre on Youtube has a very favourable review of two of Windham's offerings.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PVEitTfxm0&feature=plcp
Been eyeing their "MPC" model since my local started stocking them. Seem like nicely put together rifles for the money.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PVEitTfxm0&feature=plcp
Been eyeing their "MPC" model since my local started stocking them. Seem like nicely put together rifles for the money.
meanmrmustard
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AKs I have plenty of. I'm on a milsurp kick lately, but late winter will yield a new AR, purely for a closet rifle.
No questions asked; that's what I'm reading as per the overview of the WW warranty. That goes far.
meanmrmustard
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I've officially made a decision, and shall build upon it.
I'm buying one of three rifles:
Sig M400 (Enhanced)
Windham Weaponry MPC
Another S&W M&P Sport
The first two, I like what's offered all around. The last, we have history, and I know I can trust it. Whether or not I'm ready for a new flavor (having never owned WW or Sig ARs) is the hard part.
I'm buying one of three rifles:
Sig M400 (Enhanced)
Windham Weaponry MPC
Another S&W M&P Sport
The first two, I like what's offered all around. The last, we have history, and I know I can trust it. Whether or not I'm ready for a new flavor (having never owned WW or Sig ARs) is the hard part.
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I'm another WW fan.
I bought one a couple of months ago, and I can't find a single fault.
It's never had one problem, it's accurate and good looking.
A friend of mine bought a Ruger SR556 and both of us agreed the trigger and balance on the WW felt better to us.
I bought one a couple of months ago, and I can't find a single fault.
It's never had one problem, it's accurate and good looking.
A friend of mine bought a Ruger SR556 and both of us agreed the trigger and balance on the WW felt better to us.
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