Worst Carry Pistol Option

[The Lone Haranguer]

A water gun.

Who says you have to put water in it? Load it up with lemon - or lime - juice ... at full strength! Then you will have a ... a H2O magnum!

 

[lee n. field]

Who says you have to put water in it? Load it up with lemon - or lime - juice ... at full strength! Then you will have a ... a H2O magnum!

A squirt bottle of household strength ammonia. Perfect for dogs.

 

[FM12]

Oh yeah, Woad Yurt, now you're going to start the whole "lemon vs lime juice" debate, all over again!!

 

[Gunner4h1r3]

Mare's Leg

 

[VHinch]

Can't believe no one has mentioned the infamous Gyrojet

 

[mljdeckard]

For those of us who hate .22 for carry, just remember. At least it's not a .25 acp.

When you shoot someone wearing a leather coat, the the preferred response should NOT be; "OOOw, That HURT!! I'm going to have a WELT!!"

 

[NASCAR_MAN]

"Oh, and ANY .22 Caliber rimfire pistol This is because of the round itself. It's an unreliable cartridge that doesn't deliver the goods of stopping an antagonist until after he has delivered a world of hurt unto you."
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Geez...ya' really never seen Evil have ya'? It's all a "shoot-em-up-cowboy" game to you, huh?

NASCAR

I'm sorry if I sound so cynical, but I'm just sooooo tired of people knocking other people's choices of guns - instead of helping them to learn how to shoot and effectively defend themselves.

 

[KiltedClaymore]

škorpion vz. 61

 

[woad_yurt]

http://www.swissminigun.com Ever see one?

Has anyone here tried nostril carry? Great concealment but possibly bothersome when the pollen count climbs....

 

[Jamie C.]

We don't know enough to say why the shot worked. The BG could have been responding to the sound as much as anything. A firearm should be capable of dealing with an attacker who is more "assertive" in his efforts. Many people have died as the result of attackers who were already on their way to the grave, but had enough fight left in them to finish the job.

My guess is the shot worked because it was fired at contact distance and the BG got a good internal dose of the muzzle blast along with the bullet. Which is not a bad way to use a small .22 at all.

I'm also guessing that the shot would probably have been fatal if the gun had been pressed up against the fellow's ribcage, instead of an area with relatively few vital organs. And that's even if the bullet had missed anything vital.

No matter the case though, it's hard to argue with success. The little gun certainly proved to be better than no gun at all. Matter of fact, unless the goal was to kill the fellow, it worked as well as any weapon could have.



J.C.

 

[doktor_x]

Without a doubt, the Nerf Reactor would be a pretty horrible choice. I'd sooner carry a spork for defensive purposes.

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

A squirt bottle of household strength ammonia.

I can see how this would go in court. "Plain old water or fruit juice wasn't enough for that bloodthirsty devil. No, he had to handload extra hurtful ammonia!"

 

[yesit'sloaded]

I'm going to go with a Liberator.



There is just something unappealing about having to poke the casing out with a stick before reloading. On the other hand it was a great gun to make by the thousands in a short time and drop to partisans.

 

[moojpg2]

Stun Gun

 

[theken206]

"Quote:
hahahaha, "what and the hell is that thing, is that a gun??"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_94_8_mm_Pistol

From that link: The gun became notorious for a design flaw that allowed it to be fired with a round in the chamber by pressing a projecting sear on the left-hand side of the receiver."

I know what a type 94 is, I was joking about if you ever had to pull the thing!

Quote:
hahahaha, "what and the hell is that thing, is that a gun??"


For those of us who hate .22 for carry, just remember. At least it's not a .25 acp.

When you shoot someone wearing a leather coat, the the preferred response should NOT be; "OOOw, That HURT!! I'm going to have a WELT!!"

lol reminds me of when a guy brought in a .32 that his dad took off a kraut ossifer in the war into my favorite gun shop.

Jay one of they emplyees " hahahahaha yeah and if you shoot me with that thing, and I find out about, it im going to be pissed"

 

[aguyindallas]

The worst carrying option is of course not carrying and leaving your gun at home!

 

[Ed Ames]

Going back to the OP's post... the question now comes up, "What's so very wrong with those guns?"

Anything Cap and Ball

Reliability is the only special concern for this class. You can get 6 shot C&B revolvers that hit pretty hard and very very few real-world self defense gunfights go past 5 anyway. (And that, it could be argued, is just because of panic... people just unloading instead of watching what they are doing). I would say that there is another concern at the extremes. I once tested the "magnum" NAA companion C&B mini revolver and a normal .22LR pistol (not a mini but as close as I could manage) into a phone book. The difference was HUGE. The NAA running a compression load lodged the bullet an inch and a half or two inches into the book and the bullet was basically bullet-shaped. The .22LR didn't penetrate much deeper and on the surface looked identical but the bullet was flowing ropes of lead wire scattered across 2 cubic inch space. The .22LR had a lot more power. There is a reason old derringers were still rather large bore. Some could argue "single action revolver" but there are double action C&B revolvers and anyway SA revolvers aren't worse than nothing.

And, the 1895 Mosin Nagant.

A minor point of interest here: A Mosin Nagant is a bolt action rifle -- VERY hard to conceal considering that those produced in 1895 had 28" barrels. OK, I'll stop being a wiseass and address the 1895 Nagant revolver. Only thing innately wrong with them is size. Point of interest: they are still used as ISSUE sidearms for guards in some parts of the world. Hard to fault the reliability of a gun designed 102+ years ago, out of production for 60 years, and still in active service use. As for effectiveness... I have a S&W personal defense gun from the same era, a "safety hammerless" in 32S&W. Designed for concealed carry it is small, light, has integrated sights and a grip safety. The 32S&W would be a poor choice for concealed carry because 1) ammo is impossible to find. The gun was designed for BP and nobody loads anything but "barely makes it out of the barrel" plinking loads. 2) The gun is an antique and therefore fairly expensive for no good reason. 3) The gun wouldn't be especially effective even if you had full power ammo. As a final bit of fun, it really is double action only and the double action trigger isn't the best ever. The Nagant deserves none of those criticisms though. At least not to the same extent.

Oh, and ANY .22 Caliber rimfire pistol

As has been pointed out, .22 rimfire is a very good choice for deep concealment or back up gun use. It's also a great "95%" gun. You see, 92% of firearms use requires only the display of a "real looking" gun. Bullet wounds are distinctive and anyone with a bullet wound serious enough to require hospitalization will get police attention. Everyone knows it... few are going to "shrug off" the idea of being shot. Those that will, well, we should remember the video of a truck driver attacking an LEO as he is shot repeatedly with a .45ACP. Some people won't stop even for an .88 magnum. Choosing not to carry at all just because you will only be 95% effective instead of 98% effective is silly.

Just a thought. Not saying any of those are the best choices but there's a big difference between "there are better choices" and "that's a bad choice." There are better choices than .22LR. There are better choices than the Nagant revolver. Even when something is a bad choice it helps to know what is bad.

 

[geo815]

Anything in .25 ACP

A decent leather jacket is enough protection from this round.

 

[Ed Ames]

I agree .25ACP is underwhelming.

My grandfather carried a little Beretta .25ACP in his pocket for decades. He used it several times too....

On his farm, against snakes and the like. Not something I'd carry if I had any choice.

 

[IndridCold]

Smithy 659!

 

[QuackAddict]

Without getting specific, I'd say it's anything you cant shoot reliably, because its too small/large of a gun and doesn't fit in your hand, or it's too big a caliber to shoot well.

 

[GaryP]

.17Mach2/.17HMR or .22LR/.22WMR would be the worst choices for Primary carry in CCW mode in my opinon, but there is a lot of truth in the statement "any gun is better than no gun" when SHTF.

 

[esq_stu]

a scandium .357 snubbie loaded with full power 158 grain .357s

 

[Archer1945]

For those of you knocking the .22, .380 and .25acp. I'm looking for a volunteer who will be willing to stand 10 yards in front of me and let me shoot at them.

 

[yesit'sloaded]

Depending how much money was involved and what I could wear I would possibly take you up on the .25 test. I have seen them shot into wet newspaper and phone books. It really is a sad little caliber. Anything over 10 yards and I would question penetration in semi-heavy clothing.