Your Vote for the Best Pro-Gun Quote Ever

[Pizzapinochle]

Clearly even if Jefferson didn't utter the exact words in the quote I listed he certainly felt that way. Those intelligentsia based sites would have you believe otherwise. Read the quotes above and tell me again how wrong it is to assume Jefferson thought like my quote reads.

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If Jefferson didn't say the quote I listed, he just didn't think of it. I KNOW he thought that way.

So.... You don't really know he said it, but by golly you sure think he should have and he said other things, so you are going to treat it like a quote he DID say because it makes you feel good.

Well done.

 

[Elkins45]

Clearly even if Jefferson didn't utter the exact words in the quote I listed he certainly felt that way.

If Jefferson didn't say it then it isn't a "quote." It might be an accurate interpretation of his sentiments, but it is most certainly not a quote as the term is universally understood.

 

[119er]

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." - William Pitt (GB)

 

[atomd]

"I know what you're thinking, punk. You're thinking "did he fire six shots or only five?" Now to tell you the truth I forgot myself in all this excitement. But being this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world and will blow you head clean off, you've gotta ask yourself a question: "Do I feel lucky?" Well, do ya, punk?"

-Harry Callahan

 

[j1]

"Only accurate rifles are interesting."

 

[Shanghai McCoy]

" Oh Bother, said Pooh, as he chambered another round."
First saw it here many years back.
I believe that good old Anonymous gets the credit...

 

[Cee Zee]

If Jefferson didn't say it then it isn't a "quote." It might be an accurate interpretation of his sentiments, but it is most certainly not a quote as the term is universally understood.

So you take my quote completely out of context and try to discredit my argument with it? Did you read the rest of my post where there is evidence that he said it? Did you read where these so called experts on Jefferson deliberately mislead people in order to serve their agenda? Surely you don't think I believe a quote is something I think he might have said. Did you even read the quote of mine that you posted? I didn't claim that was proof that he said those words. I said there was ample proof he felt the way the quote I cited directs us.

Nitpicking is not generally a productive pursuit. But it's the net and some people will say anything just to be contrary. It seems to be some sort of juvenile sport. You ignored what was clearly a fact based approach to the issue and insinuated my words said something they absolutely did not say. What a waste of time.

Jefferson believed guns were important whether he said those words or not. And I'm pretty sure you didn't follow him around his entire life making you certain he never uttered the quote I cited. I don't trust academia to give us the straight story on any of this. Their agenda drives everything they do. Apparently they aren't the only ones who play these games.

I'm done with this thread. You can't prove he didn't say those words. I can prove that Jefferson thought that way even if he didn't utter that exact quote. That's the only thing that really matters here. Internet gotcha games don't impress me. The hue and cry over so called "spurious" quotes is a red herring the academic types use to discredit ideologies. And you have taken their bait. I proved their methodology was faulty but that doesn't seem to matter to you. You don't seem to get that trusting an institution that clearly distorts and rewrites history can't be trusted to give you the truth on anything including whether Jefferson said these words. And that hue and cry is all you have to go on. It's the intellectual version of towel snapping in the locker room. But there is no sting in your rebuttal. I just shake my head at the gullibility of some in accepting the propaganda of their enemies.

So.... You don't really know he said it, but by golly you sure think he should have and he said other things, so you are going to treat it like a quote he DID say because it makes you feel good.

So you're going to attempt to put words in my mouth that I did NOT say and attempt to discredit my argument with your own imagined theory? Badly done.

 

[Pizzapinochle]

Just clarify one thing for us Cee Zee:

do you think your original statement is a QUOTE or an accurate reflection of Jefferson's thoughts?

 

[Pizzapinochle]

" Oh Bother, said Pooh, as he chambered another round."
First saw it here many years back.
I believe that good old Anonymous gets the credit...

 

[Library Guy]

Three of my favorites are from Englishmen which goes to show what has happened to that once great island race.

Form, Form, Riflemen Form
Ready, be ready to meet the storm!
Riflemen, Riflemen, Riflemen form!

~Alfred Tennyson​

“I know something of charters, liberties franchises, usages, privileges, customs, and the like. If these be broken, then all men know that it is time to buy arrow-heads."

~Arthur Conan Doyle​

He shall take a tribute, toll of all our ware;
He shall change our gold for arms—arms we may not bear.

~Rudyard Kipling​

 

[Stevie-Ray]

Here's another:

The right of citizens to bear arms is just one more guarantee against arbitrary government, one more safeguard against the tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which historically has proved to be always possible.....Hubert H. Humphrey

Now, not quite as remote as then.

 

[Elkins45]

So you take my quote completely out of context and try to discredit my argument with it? Did you read the rest of my post where there is evidence that he said it? Did you read where these so called experts on Jefferson deliberately mislead people in order to serve their agenda? Surely you don't think I believe a quote is something I think he might have said. Did you even read the quote of mine that you posted? I didn't claim that was proof that he said those words. I said there was ample proof he felt the way the quote I cited directs us.

Nitpicking is not generally a productive pursuit. But it's the net and some people will say anything just to be contrary. It seems to be some sort of juvenile sport. You ignored what was clearly a fact based approach to the issue and insinuated my words said something they absolutely did not say. What a waste of time.

Jefferson believed guns were important whether he said those words or not. And I'm pretty sure you didn't follow him around his entire life making you certain he never uttered the quote I cited. I don't trust academia to give us the straight story on any of this. Their agenda drives everything they do. Apparently they aren't the only ones who play these games.

I'm done with this thread. You can't prove he didn't say those words. I can prove that Jefferson thought that way even if he didn't utter that exact quote. That's the only thing that really matters here. Internet gotcha games don't impress me. The hue and cry over so called "spurious" quotes is a red herring the academic types use to discredit ideologies. And you have taken their bait. I proved their methodology was faulty but that doesn't seem to matter to you. You don't seem to get that trusting an institution that clearly distorts and rewrites history can't be trusted to give you the truth on anything including whether Jefferson said these words. And that hue and cry is all you have to go on. It's the intellectual version of towel snapping in the locker room. But there is no sting in your rebuttal. I just shake my head at the gullibility of some in accepting the propaganda of their enemies.



So you're going to attempt to put words in my mouth that I did NOT say and attempt to discredit my argument with your own imagined theory? Badly done.

Do you hear yourself? You completely redefine the term "quote" in what seems like an attempt to rescue your erroneous post, then take me to task for actually caring about antiquated things like accuracy. Just so you know, accurate attribution isn't a leftist conspiracy to hide the truth. It is, however, a baseline requirement for credibility.

Just for the record "You can't prove he didn't say those words" is officially the weakest argument I've ever heard. Truth is truth, and Jefferson's actual words don't need embellishment or rearrangement to be useful. By putting forward "quotes" that can be demonstrated as false you weaken our credibility with these very enemies you claim I have fallen sway to.

Following that line of thought I could 'quote' Obama as having said "I think America is a hateful country filled with white racists and I'm really enjoying punishing those crackers with executive orders and ObamaCare." I could, but I'll bet future generations won't be repeating that quote and attributing it to the President.

 

[jonnyc]

"Fill your hands, you sonovabitch!" - Rooster Cogburn

 

[xXxplosive]

“Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples’ liberty’s teeth”
― George Washington

 

[230RN]

A golf course is nothing but a waste of a good rifle range.

 

[rocksolid]

"Said I never had much use for one. Never said I didn't know how to use it."
Cora's "Roy"

 

[HoosierQ]

"get off my lawn"

 

[Shanghai McCoy]

Thanks for posting the picture Pizzapinochle..

 

[TennJed]

So you take my quote completely out of context and try to discredit my argument with it? Did you read the rest of my post where there is evidence that he said it? Did you read where these so called experts on Jefferson deliberately mislead people in order to serve their agenda? Surely you don't think I believe a quote is something I think he might have said. Did you even read the quote of mine that you posted? I didn't claim that was proof that he said those words. I said there was ample proof he felt the way the quote I cited directs us.

Nitpicking is not generally a productive pursuit. But it's the net and some people will say anything just to be contrary. It seems to be some sort of juvenile sport. You ignored what was clearly a fact based approach to the issue and insinuated my words said something they absolutely did not say. What a waste of time.

Jefferson believed guns were important whether he said those words or not. And I'm pretty sure you didn't follow him around his entire life making you certain he never uttered the quote I cited. I don't trust academia to give us the straight story on any of this. Their agenda drives everything they do. Apparently they aren't the only ones who play these games.

I'm done with this thread. You can't prove he didn't say those words. I can prove that Jefferson thought that way even if he didn't utter that exact quote. That's the only thing that really matters here. Internet gotcha games don't impress me. The hue and cry over so called "spurious" quotes is a red herring the academic types use to discredit ideologies. And you have taken their bait. I proved their methodology was faulty but that doesn't seem to matter to you. You don't seem to get that trusting an institution that clearly distorts and rewrites history can't be trusted to give you the truth on anything including whether Jefferson said these words. And that hue and cry is all you have to go on. It's the intellectual version of towel snapping in the locker room. But there is no sting in your rebuttal. I just shake my head at the gullibility of some in accepting the propaganda of their enemies.



So you're going to attempt to put words in my mouth that I did NOT say and attempt to discredit my argument with your own imagined theory? Badly done.

It seems your agenda drives you to put words in TJ mouth and to assume things you cannot prove. Of course he believed guns were important, but to say "Jefferson thought that way even if he didn't utter that exact quote." in a favorite quote thread is strange

 

[Hometeached1]

"Said I never had much use for one. Never said I didn't know how to use it."
Cora's "Roy"

One of the best "westerns" I've seen.

 

[ewlyon]

think the best i ever heard is from a sopranos scene. a character was getting quizzed for the citizenship test. the question is which is the most important amendment to the bill of rights. he answers the right to bear arms and is told the answer is actually freedom of speech.
he says something along the lines of "if a man has a gun he can say what he wants"

 

[CLP]

my submission

... and technicaly "pro-gun"

"Say hello to my little friend." - Tony Montana

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2wD5TaMf2k

 

[Sebastian the Ibis]

My Favorite Pro-Gun Quote:

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

The one I find most interesting:

More especially, it cannot be believed that the large slaveholding States regarded them [black folks] as included in the word citizens, or would have consented to a Constitution which might compel them to receive them in that character from another State. For if they were so received, and entitled to the privileges and immunities of citizens, it would exempt them from the operation of the special laws and from the police regulations which they considered to be necessary for their own safety. It would give to persons of the negro race, who were recognised as citizens in any one State of the Union, the right to enter every other State whenever they pleased, singly or in companies, without pass or passport, and without obstruction, to sojourn there as long as they pleased, to go where they pleased at every hour of the day or night without molestation, unless they committed some violation of law for which a white man would be punished; and it would give them the full liberty of speech in public and in private upon all subjects upon which its own citizens might speak; to hold public meetings upon political affairs, and to keep and carry arms wherever they went.

Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. 19 How. 393 416-417 (1856)

 

[Mouse hunter]

In this world there are two kinds of people my friend: those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig.

Clint Eastwood in the good, the bad and the ugly

Its a humorous quote but it gets to the root of the 2nd amendment. If you are unarmed, you are at someone else's mercy. You are their slave.

 

[cheesebigot]

Not gun-related per se, but a good quote to recap the RKBA sociopolitical struggle.

"Peace has cost you your strength! Victory has defeated you!"

-Tom Hardy as Bane, The Dark Knight Rises