Demolished Marlin

All I can say is OUCH!!

Ka-BOOM!! Look how the barrel split and lots of pressure went straight down onto the forearm... I truly hope his hands aren't forever ruined and he gets some use back.

If you can find out the recipe he loaded that would possibly help us all figure out wha hoppen.

Tell him good luck!

Stay safe.

Just a thought - barrel obstruction of some type? I would think an overload of pistol powder could blow the gun and barrel but bullet would probably exit, no? Out of battery could explode the receiver however doubt it would peel the barrel.

I read the ad. I have two questions....

1. Reloads or factory ammo?

2. Is it possible there was a squib immediately prior to the last shot?

Only the shooter probably knows, and he didn’t say anything in the web site

am kinda surprised if did not fail at the rear sight dovetail. Hope the shooter a fast recovery. And where's the bolt.

The poor seller probably needs some money for medical bills, given that the blowup removed his complete thumb, a few finger tips and mangled his left hand.

I assume it was a reload. Buy the rifle and get the complete story, and tell us what you know.

Or not. I think it would be cheaper to buy a new guide rifle and blow it up. Just don't be holding the thing.

Looks like a squib.

That "has" to be a bore obstruction of some kind.
Full (100%-full) load of Bullseye only shows 85ksi behind a 350gr Barnes,
whereupon I would "think" the lock-up would fail/case rupture/blow the gas down through the action.

I would love to see the particulars when finally known.



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MEHavey said:

That "has" to be a bore obstruction of some kind.
Full (100%-full) load of Bullseye only shows 85ksi behind a 350gr Barnes,
whereupon I would "think" the lock-up would fail/case rupture/blow the gas down through the action.

I would love to see the particulars when finally known.



Quotes [" "] are an indication I haven't a clue -- only gut feel

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I am pretty sure i would be an obstruction. As for a powder overcharge, maybe a compressed double load of h110/w296? Stiil I would expect the bullet to exit the barrel unless it was obstructed.

Wow, never seen one quite like this. Two grand is pretty hefty for an unusable rifle though...

Marlin should buy it to preserve their name.

Never mind, that ship sailed a few years back. Maybe Barnes?

I’m thinking neither Barnes nor Marlin we’re responsible for what likely was caused by a barrel obstruction.

Two thousand dollars for a blown rifle?!
Why?
Did Michael Jackson blow it up? Troy Aikman?
There's not two hundred worth of usable parts...

Demi-human said:

Two thousand dollars for a blown rifle?!
Why?
Did Michael Jackson blow it up? Troy Aikman?
There's not two hundred worth of usable parts...

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Yeah. I don't get it.

People love pistol powders in the 45-70 for some stupid reason.....I would lay odds on a bad recipe.....with you saying Barnes I am betting it is a reload....usually it is a look at what factory ammo did....nope this is all on him.

Was it the correct bullet.

(IF) it was a reload.....and I bet it is....it is all on him.....If not then he needs to have a talk with whoever made the ammo.

Demi-human said:

Two thousand dollars for a blown rifle?!
Why?
Did Michael Jackson blow it up? Troy Aikman?
There's not two hundred worth of usable parts...

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..... why was this posted on another forum.

The Marlin action isn’t a Mauser, or Rem 700, which we’re more used to seeing destroyed. They yield at much lower pressures, meaning sooner and differently - it’s very possible a single over-pressure event could rupture the action and barrel tenon as pictured, while leaving the bullet in the bore, without an obstruction in front of it.

The dude’s trying to sell the parts to get it out of his life, and recoup some money for his medical bills. Not so different than a “gofundme” page, just wrapped in a Gunbroker banner. Not so complicated.

I wish he stated what load he was shooting. He's lucky the bolt didn't let go. Good luck on his recovery.

Iis this rifle a smokeless or BP?

Quote"This is a fairly new Marlin 1895 guide gun in 45/70 that exploded a few weeks ago removing the shooters complete thumb and a few finger tip and mangeling the left hand.

Modern smokeless.

Scooter22 said:

Quote"This is a fairly new Marlin 1895 guide gun in 45/70 that exploded a few weeks ago removing the shooters complete thumb and a few finger tip and mangeling the left hand.

Modern smokeless.

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Does smokess have similar pressure ringing with air pocket like BP?
Was thinking if it does and he was reloading but not compressing with bullet perhaps he missed the filler. Seems I remember a call out for gun cotton filler when loading 38sp with unique 231. Was a long time ago i don't reload but knew someone that did.

I have seen destruction like that before, the fellow grabbed the wrong powder.

These were the photos he posted.





Like about what I could imagine 40 grains of a very fast pistol powder could do.

There have been obstruction photos posted as well.