A scary moment happened to me this morning.

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It is a sad state of affairs when people cannot be factually described as "black" without snide comments in the thread.


Anyway, stating someone's race should not be counted as for"Identification purposes" when used on it's own. It just isn't enough information, and is a stereotype against all black people.
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Let us examine this comment carefully. Apparently, this poster believes that the fact a group of thugs were black makes all black people thugs. There is a name for that sort of assumption. Not High Road at all. And now to update my ignore list.
 
Good Lord, enough of the PC crap. I think some people go out of their way to look for words, statements, etc just to say "You shouldn't say that, whaaaaaaa!"

Good grief. :rolleyes:


That aside, you did fine Matt. These are one of many scenarios that you cannot train for until you're in the middle of it!

Good job.
 
Well, I personally am happy he described the situation fully. I see nothing wrong with saying their ethnicity. It really painted a good view of the situaiton. Sorry, no offense, but if you study the murder rate of blacks in this country, it is higher than any other. So, if you study statistically, if there is a confrontation between blacks and you are in the middle of it, your and their chance of being killed are higher. Its not about skin color, but about their culture. THey have a culture with more violence and more involved with gangs. They are also statistcally more prone to use their guns to handle disputes than other ethnic groups in USA. So, this really does affect the situation and is not racist in any way, rather it is going by mathematical analysis and the probablity factor.

He mentioned a group of afro americans, which indicates probably gang related, since guns are involved. If anyone said there heart didn't tremble when he mentioned this is a gang related dispute, you are a liar. Criminal gangs have very little care for human life and many people die in the crossfire of these people. Afro american gangs recently were battling at a crowded Seattle mall. They just opened up and fired on everyone hitting many innocent bystanders. These ethnic gangs stayed in their hoods in the 80s, but in the 2000s they are mixing more and more with other populations.

If we have to close our eyes to the groups involved in these crimes, we are deaf, dumb and blind.

BY THE WAY, I have been to Africa, have black friends and they agree with me on what I said. So don't call me a racist.
 
In the original story, the men were described as black (African-American). If their race was not stated, most people here would have assumed white right?

Why?

Anyway, stating someone's race should not be counted as for"Identification purposes" when used on it's own. It just isn't enough information, and is a stereotype against all black people.
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so.. what we have here is the same old bull**** of someone wanting to point at someone else and call them a racist for making a simple descriptive statement... I must say that is a pretty pathetic attempt to start an argument... First, until the words black, white, latino, asian, etc can be used without someone like yourself making a big fuss, we obviously have a problem... second he was telling a story, we will never know what YOU would have thought had he just said 4 men rather than 4 BLACK men, what I do know is that when telling a story details help build the scene.. such details as a HANDGUN... to finish I would like to say the term african american is as racist a term as has ever been invented... if you were not born in africa and eventually came to the US and are now a citizen, you are simply an american, sorry to burst your bubble, but anything else is an unneccessary deliniation.. dividing Americans is Bull****... I know one african american, he was born in Nigeria and is now a US citizen and will be graduating with me next month. Any black individual that is not originally from africa, is just that BLACK.. just as I am WHITE...If you or anyone else thinks of that as a negative thing, I really dont care... that is your problem. I live in a country of americans... Mexican americans, Asian american...etc.. but I will never refer to them as such... only as AMERICANS!!!! PERIOD...GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON.. you making a BS fuss over this is what holds onto racial idealism.
 
I think that if I ever have a situation in the future, I will not post here because no matter what sort of people I had the situation with someone WILL drag up old racist wounds and ruin it for all others.

FYI, Back home in Baltimore you had all the world in the entire city. Some blocks eat german food, the next one over, holland. Then greece and some polish, russian, irish and african etc etc etc

You could eat all around the world on a simple cross city trip visiting a local eatery.

Enough about black and white and get back on topic or go home.
 
Isn't there some rule or law or something about shutting off your cell phone while at the gas station?
 
Isn't there some rule or law or something about shutting off your cell phone while at the gas station?
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Hey, something worth talking about!

http://www.snopes.com/autos/hazards/gasvapor.asp

I'm not sure of snopes' veracity, but I can't imagine any logical consequences, i.e. "sparks" or something to that effect of using a cell phone while pumping gas.

In a situation like the OP's, it might be more dangerous to turn your cell phone off, even if there was a 1/1 million chance of starting a fire.
 
take static electricity, rub it all up. Walk up to a pump handle.

Pick up handle. Dont touch anything at all. Use your hand to just touch the metal of your car, if there is ANY gas present the spark will light it.

You should just leave the burning nozzle inside your car's gas tank. But most sheep will yank burning nozzle and spray half the place in thier panic.

What frightens me to no end is people in heavy winter clothing get back into thier cars after starting the flow of gas. They are going to come out, reach near the nozzle and POOF ZAP!!!!

I perfer to fuel early in the morning when all is quiet and all is calm and fresh coffee is a-brewing.

Some cars explode when old fuel lines rupture in the morning because of poor preventative maintaince. The BOOM is distinctive to me and that firewall behind the engine will hold the flames long enough for a response.

Im not a firefighter. But Ive fought a variety of fires, including the one I set in my apartment stove with a rag due to too much over time one night.
 
Sernv99 is the one that is racist here. Apparently he thinks being called black is an insult.

If you are still bitter about losing an argument to me a while ago, get over it. Move on will ya?
 
Some of you folks will be surprised to hear that some gas stations have these new fangdangled gas pumps where you stick in your credit card and the amount of the sale is charged to the card.
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How many ways can we tell that this event did not happen in New Jersey?
 
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For the record I think it's a unnecessary designation to describe the company that owned the gas station or the fact that the individuals were driving a red vehicle or the fact that it was a car or even the fact that the individuals were male.
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I totally agree! [sarcasm] It is terribly sexist of the OP to describe the persons as "guys." That is sexist! Sexist, I say, SEXIST! How dare anyone divide us on the basis of gender! Don't these people realize this is the 21st century! [/sarcasm]

Get a grip, people!
 
Good grief...of all the places in the world you expect to find hyper-sensitive PC language patrol, a gun forum is low on the list!

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If their race was not stated, most people here would have assumed white right?
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So, it's a good thing OP cleared up any confusion!

When I read the story the salient fact that stood out to me was the GUN being waved around. That some picked out the color of skin of the subjects says more about THEIR racial hangups then the OP's...

Real racists cannot talk about race without making a stink about it. The rest of us can mention race as casually as sex, color of car, or time of day without it being a federal case.
 
Help me understand...

Why do you consider being called black an insult?

if you need to understand the meaning of my original statement, I'd suggest you 1.) clear your mind of your false assumptions about everything I say on here 2.) actually re-read my original comment.

did I say being called "black" was an insult? Did I explicitly say that?
 
Some folks will just want to argue any point they can think of.

The subject of this post was he experienced a situation first hand that made him rethink his carry habits along with his cell phone habits.

No, there is no safer part of any town. Bad guys can be anywhere at any time. That's one of the reasons why you have a CCL in the first place.

I work where no guns are allowed on property, not even in the car / truck secured properly. Thank (insert your deity name here) I live just a few miles away. As soon as I get home I change to my jeans which have my holster and magazine holder on the belt / add the 1911 and the 2 mags - and then I feel "dressed".

To the OP - since you mentioned that the station was across the street from where you work, did you call 911 as soon as you got to work or did you just drive as far away from there as you could?
 
I work where no guns are allowed on property, not even in the car / truck secured properly. Thank (insert your deity name here) I live just a few miles away. As soon as I get home I change to my jeans which have my holster and magazine holder on the belt / add the 1911 and the 2 mags - and then I feel "dressed".
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I used to work at a similar place. I carried anyway and left it locked in the car. If you keep quiet, there should never be a problem.
 
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