Ar around 800$

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HoosierQ said:
I know you want a dust cover and a forward assist but I am very pleased with the S&W M&P15 Sport...which lacks both. I have never missed them. What is there is great. Much better looking parts than my Stag, which I will say worked flawlessly right out of the box. Very high level of fit an finish.

$600. Gives you $200 to play with for accessories before you get to ammo. Might be able to get an optic which gives you an AR with optic for $800.

Just a thought.
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Do you have an earlier sport with the better barrel, or the newer one with the lesser (and 1/9) barrel?

Either way, there are a lot of differences between a Sport and some of the other rifles being discussed other than just a dust cover and forward assist
 
Warp said:
Do you have an earlier sport with the better barrel, or the newer one with the lesser (and 1/9) barrel?

Either way, there are a lot of differences between a Sport and some of the other rifles being discussed other than just a dust cover and forward assist
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Please elaborate. I have the 1/9 barrel which will be fine for me. I will shoot 55s and 62s as the heavyiest. My stag was also 1/9. I don't need or want the 1/7 spin on those light bullets and I have no need or desire to shoot heavier bullets from this lightweight carbine.
 
HoosierQ said:
Please elaborate. I have the 1/9 barrel which will be fine for me. I will shoot 55s and 62s as the heavyiest. My stag was also 1/9. I don't need or want the 1/7 spin on those light bullets and I have no need or desire to shoot heavier bullets from this lightweight carbine.
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The original Sport had a Melonite 1/8 barrel with the 5R rifling. They went cheap on the barrel after a little while though.

I sometimes get threads confused...did the OP state that he doesn't care about getting sub-optimal performance from bullets longer than typical 55gr FMJ?
 
Warp said:
The original Sport had a Melonite 1/8 barrel with the 5R rifling. They went cheap on the barrel after a little while though.

I sometimes get threads confused...did the OP state that he doesn't care about getting sub-optimal performance from bullets longer than typical 55gr FMJ?
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Thanks. I will never notice the difference. 55 grains for me. 62 also.
 
R H Clark said:
55's shoot just fine in a 1:7.
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They shoot quite well in 1/9 too. Somehow this thread turned into rate of twist debate. I actually don't know much about it. I just know that 1/9 is perfectly fine for garden variety .223 and 5.56 ammo and that I have always gotten results that suite me.

The OP is looking for a good AR on an $800 budget and I think the M&P15 Sport fits it nicely. He also said he wanted a dust cover and a forward assist and the Sport does not fit that.
 
an AR is only an Armalite and Buds gunshop, Impact Guns, Guns America, Davidsons, CDNN, Kentucky Rifle comp. just to name a few have Armalites for just over $800, if you want a rifle in an AR frame, there are so many to choose from, I own a few and the best other than Armalites are Windham (the old Bushmaster, Rock River, DPMS and others) for more $$$$$ Colt and go up from there to some price AR framed rifles.
 
R H Clark said:
55's shoot just fine in a 1:7.
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They sure do.

I think we all knew that already though.

HoosierQ said:
They shoot quite well in 1/9 too. Somehow this thread turned into rate of twist debate. I actually don't know much about it. I just know that 1/9 is perfectly fine for garden variety .223 and 5.56 ammo and that I have always gotten results that suite me.

The OP is looking for a good AR on an $800 budget and I think the M&P15 Sport fits it nicely. He also said he wanted a dust cover and a forward assist and the Sport does not fit that.
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It isn't the best idea to recommend a 1/9 barrel to somebody without first finding out whether or not they mind that sort of limitation. Much of the higher end ammo is much better suited to a 1/8 or 1/7 twist...particularly the heavy BTHP rounds like SMK's and Hornady's stuff.

Yes, 1/9 will shoot the typical/bulk 55gr stuff just fine.
 
I recommended a rifle, not a twist rate. An awful lot of .223 barrels are 1/9 so it's not really an out-of-spec thing.
 
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My point was there is no down side to the Colt's 1:7 twist. There could be on the 1:9 depending on what you want to shoot. Just something else to consider when buying an AR.
 
R H Clark said:
My point was there is no down side to the Colt's 1:7 twist. There could be on the 1:9 depending on what you want to shoot. Just something else to consider when buying an AR.
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Definitely.

(unless you wanted to shoot super light, say 35gr, varmint loads, in which case you would want a slow twist...but anybody who wanted to do that would be sure to know that and say that)
 
 
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