Broke my AR again.

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I gotta wonder how useful 3-7 extra rounds in places you can easily get to them really are.
Im with the guys who are inclined to carry batteries, parts....or maybe a candybar....id buy that grip module
I always kept batteries in mine when I was in the mil- stock and both grips. Usually 1 guy on the team would carry a spare bolt and pins.
 
Im with the guys who are inclined to carry batteries, parts....or maybe a candybar.
Funny you mentioned that. When I was in Ranger school carrying my M16A2, I swore I smelled chocolate one day on patrol. This is not unusual- food and sleep deprivation for an extended period of time plays all kinds of tricks on your senses. Except this time I was right, because my Ranger buddy smelled it too. It turns out that the last student who was issued that weapon put a snickers bar in it, because when the course is over, the students are allowed to have junk food at the tail end when they are cleaning weapons and equipment, turning stuff in, etc., and the last guy "threw me a bone". As soon as I found it, I shut that cover up. That night me and Ranger buddy very covertly and quickly split the snickers bar, and there was much rejoicing. Before I left, I inserted a bag of trail mix in the stock.
 
They are designed to fit the standard Magpul MOE and MIAD pistol grips.
Those are OK, but I think I like my Stowaway grips more. Externally, they look just like standard A2 grips, only slightly fatter. Hinged door at the bottom. It's too bad Lone Star Ordnance went out of business.
 
Those are OK, but I think I like my Stowaway grips more. Externally, they look just like standard A2 grips, only slightly fatter. Hinged door at the bottom. It's too bad Lone Star Ordnance went out of business.
I installed the Lone Star grips on all the guns on my team back before all the magpul and similar things came out. We used either VLTOR or LMT stocks with compartments back then.
 
Funny you mentioned that. When I was in Ranger school carrying my M16A2, I swore I smelled chocolate one day on patrol. This is not unusual- food and sleep deprivation for an extended period of time plays all kinds of tricks on your senses. Except this time I was right, because my Ranger buddy smelled it too. It turns out that the last student who was issued that weapon put a snickers bar in it, because when the course is over, the students are allowed to have junk food at the tail end when they are cleaning weapons and equipment, turning stuff in, etc., and the last guy "threw me a bone". As soon as I found it, I shut that cover up. That night me and Ranger buddy very covertly and quickly split the snickers bar, and there was much rejoicing. Before I left, I inserted a bag of trail mix in the stock.
I have heard similar stories growing up knowing a lot of infantry and air assault guys. I also know of a raging alcoholic marine who swore up and down that he had carried a bottle in some unmentionable areas of the world which was half gun oil and half everclear. After some of the things I saw him do, I would believe it. Best one though was my old neighbor. He was in gulf storm as army infantry. Carried a bottle of Visine on him. Never used it in his eyes, always used it in the drinks of the guys who left him high and dry.
 
My buddys bolt sheared 3 lugs running some hotter foreign surplus. Odd thing was, the 3 lugs sheared separately... not at the same time, based on the discoloration.

If youve run 3 barrels out on the same bolt, you were pushing your luck with it, anyway... its a wear item.
 
You didn't mention the AR brand in the OP. Some companies are using 9310 steel in the bolt,
rather than Carpenter 158. When you look for a new bolt, specify Carpenter 158.
 
I would need a space to hold a complete extra AR at the rate I'm breaking things on this!
Might be doable. The hardest thing to hide would be the barrel, but with an long enough extra handguard you could mount it at 6 o'clock like a grenade launcher. The tough part would be hiding the upper and lower. The grip could be modified to attach to existing grip on gun.
 
Pretty sure that'll buff out. :D

The Snickers deal. One day we were crawling beneath the surface in shallow waters. Myself and another were approximately 3-4 meters apart. I have the oddest sensation of smelling potato chips. I surface at the opposing bank, quickly followed by the other guy. In his hand, an empty potato chip bag he'd pulled off the floor. Strange but true. Always (mostly) had an ammo pouch dedicated to those miniature bottles of Tabasco.
 
You didn't mention the AR brand in the OP. Some companies are using 9310 steel in the bolt,
rather than Carpenter 158. When you look for a new bolt, specify Carpenter 158.
It is a "built" gun on a Rock River lower. DPMS Fire control group, first 3 barrels were gov't 14.5 with 2" FH blind pinned on, current barrel is Anderson. BCG is Colt with FA carrier.
 
Did you use the same bolt for all of the barrels? I was always under the impression that new barrel = new bolt, due to wear patterns. If one bolt managed to last through all of that, then yes, you definitely got your money's worth!
 
Back when the M16A1 still had the rubber baby buggy bumper butt stock, the "new" trap door butts were sent to units and initially replaced cracked and stained butts on existing guns. We had originally been issued a cleaning kit pouch and SOP called for it being on the Load bearing equipment belt basically over the side of the right buttock so a steel non flexable cleaning rod could jab one most painfully in the right kidney at bad moments. So many welcomed the butt trap stock to prevent damaging vital organs....others welcomed the opertunity to have a hiding place for you name it. Dopers put hash pipes and hash there, smokers going on duty in no smoking areas stashed cigs and lighters there, alkies found a couple of baby Jägermeister bottles could be kept there and al sorts of pougie bait went in there. Almost everything but cleaning kits went in there! I even knew a guy that kept porn in there!

Me I held on to my original style buttstock until it was about the last in the company and moved my cleaning kit to one side of my monkey humper, butt pack.

I rather liked the idea of taping several sections of cleaning rod to the M16A1 foregrip and receiver down to the bolt release....but they would have a cow when you did that especially if you had two lengths to make sure you could hammer out a stuck case.

A breakage I have yet to see among civilians is the broken buffer spring tube. If you are Infantry running and gunning and not playing at the range or have a mad five minute swat experiences in law enforcement then you do a fair amount of getting rapidly into the prone (hurling your body at mother earth) and getting up from the gravity well. At some point most everyone forgets to "Slide the firing hand down the stock to the top of the butt" when using the rifle as part of the whole running to prone experience. Amazingly enough the weight of a loaded Infantryman going from full sprint to full stop, plus the effect of gravity is a BAD THING to place on that small portion of the stock ( and therefore Buffer tube) immediately behind the charging handle when locked forward. You think a failure to fire is a bad thing? Try leaping to your feet running and having your butt stock, buffer tube, spring and buffer and the spring and detent that holds the rear take down pin in place shoot off the back of your rifle. Let's see the immediate action drill for that, baby! Don't laugh but I have seen one lavishly covered with hundred mile and hour tape (OD green Duct tape) in an attempt to have a rifle.

Seen a lot of broke ARs in service. Had a bolt blow on a qualifying course and got to "Alibi" so much they made me reshoot with a different class. That was BTW with my XM16E1 so it is not like this is a new thing. Initially locked the gun up and I had to go to a portable Ord van without clearing the rifle....like that was my fault.

ARs are just machines and like any service rifle will wear and just plane break when they will....this is the reason grunts down through the ages despite the weight penalty have liked like having a side arm, beats nothing and might keep'em off you.

-kBob
 
Did you use the same bolt for all of the barrels? I was always under the impression that new barrel = new bolt, due to wear patterns. If one bolt managed to last through all of that, then yes, you definitely got your money's worth!
Yes. In the mil, a bolt was good for 2 barrels as long as the headspace, etc. was in tolerance (thats what we were told). In my case, and with this being built from the start as a range/training gun only, I run everything to failure.
 
I have had 2 bolts go bad, one in a used gun and one a new PSA. In my opinion BCM make a high quality bolt with a better extractor. Rather than a stripped bolt, I would buy a complete BCM bolt. Is the carrier ok?
 
I have had 2 bolts go bad, one in a used gun and one a new PSA. In my opinion BCM make a high quality bolt with a better extractor. Rather than a stripped bolt, I would buy a complete BCM bolt. Is the carrier ok?

The carrier is fine. The bolt was replaced by another of high quality.
 
Funny you mentioned that. When I was in Ranger school carrying my M16A2, I swore I smelled chocolate one day on patrol. This is not unusual- food and sleep deprivation for an extended period of time plays all kinds of tricks on your senses. Except this time I was right, because my Ranger buddy smelled it too. It turns out that the last student who was issued that weapon put a snickers bar in it, because when the course is over, the students are allowed to have junk food at the tail end when they are cleaning weapons and equipment, turning stuff in, etc., and the last guy "threw me a bone". As soon as I found it, I shut that cover up. That night me and Ranger buddy very covertly and quickly split the snickers bar, and there was much rejoicing. Before I left, I inserted a bag of trail mix in the stock.
A touch of Monty Python humour in that story :D

Stay safe!
 
Here's a pic of that bolt wiped off, with the lug that sheared off it. They always bust adjacent to the extractor.

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I was told that either of the two lugs next to the extractor will shear first because they’re having to do a bit extra since the extractor isn’t acting as a lug...dunno if that’s true or not but it does make sense.

I have an extra bcg that I take to the range or on shooting trips in the rifle kit bag for that very emergency.

Stay safe!
 
I was told that either of the two lugs next to the extractor will shear first because they’re having to do a bit extra since the extractor isn’t acting as a lug...dunno if that’s true or not but it does make sense.

I have an extra bcg that I take to the range or on shooting trips in the rifle kit bag for that very emergency.

Stay safe!
Well, in my experience, it takes a good while and a whole lot of rounds for it to break on a gun that never sees full auto. I would assume the quality of the parts used plays a role as well. As I stated in a previous post- I'm at the point that i just bring an extra AR- specifically, Mrs FL-NC's AR- which is also the HD AR. For the most part, mine usually waits to break at the end of training, or when I get home and take it apart. Sometimes I think I hear it whimpering....
 
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