CMP 1911 Round 3
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Madcap_Magician
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I'm getting in this time.
Yep. I just got a nice field grade Remington Rand matching fame and slide a month ago. My wife was signed up for one as well, but she passed on her round 2 chance. Finances were such that an extra $950 wasn't waiting in the bank for us when contractors need to be paid and cars need to be repaired. So she is going to sign up for round 3 at the last possible post mark date on Sept 30 and let the chips fall where they may in 2023, putting an extra $100 a month into the savings account. Not surprisingly, the price on the pistols have gone up $200 per grade. If we could have swung it, $950 for a field grade now would have been better than $1,150 in a year, but c'est la vie.
I tried to tell the wife it would be easier on the 2 kids not to have to argue over who gets my pistol when I kick if we had 2 pistols. She didn't buy that argument, but she was at least supportive of buying one in round 2.
Madcap_Magician
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Yeah I'm kicking myself for not getting in on the first or second rounds. I thought it was expensive at the time given the luck of the draw, but I should have looked at it more like "Everything the CMP sells is underpriced and also they're very thorough and conservative in inspecting and grading guns."
Sure can't get a GI 1911 on Gunbroker for CMP prices. I'm hoping against hope for a matching Colt, but even if I end up with a second Remington-Rand (got one on Gunbroker earlier this year) I can't say I'd be disappointed.
Hope you get some nice pistols. I got one from the first round and one of the very first ones out. Very disappointed in what I received with that heavily parked battleship gray. Could hardly read the markings on the Colt slide. Yes I'm aware of luck of the draw. From what I have seen those who waited and were later in the first draw got some decent to nice pistols. The old saying "good things come to those who wait" may have hit home on this deal...
jobu07
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Does anyone have a link to the application process? I'm interested in getting in on this round also.
https://thecmp.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Round3CMP1911OrderPacket.pdf
Try the above. This is the application packet.
Try the above. This is the application packet.
I've been doing some amateur research on the National Defense Authorization Act to see where we stand on pistols to be transferred. Some answers here. The DLA/TACOM graded their pistols that were in storage assigning grades from A to H. Since the Army could give a crap about collector value, pistols rated highest are the most likely to have been refinished, reworked, repaired with replacement slides, barrels and parts. The CMP requested the pistols in the best condition be transferred in first. Therefore, I believe a larger majority of those transferred for Round 1 were in service grade condition than in Round 2, which has to have dipped into the Conditions E and F.
Condition F indicates "Economically reparable material that requires repair, overhaul, or reconditioning." So a pistol that the DLA feels it needs to be reconditioned, or reparkerized, gets a condition F. I got one that was probably condition F, and am very happy. No surface rust, but not reparkerized field grade. I don't plan on taking it out on deployments where I had no choice but be wet and miserable along with all of my equipment, so I didn't want a reparkerized pistol. The DLA would have had a different priority.
The next round of pistols is going to be almost ALL DLA/TACOM Condition F. There will probably be a lot of happy customers if the "been there, done that look" is what they want. I know I am.
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Homerboy
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I had a really low lottery number in round 1 and got my service grade for $1050. Colt frame and 1950’s era Colt slide. Happy with mine. I remember the critics saying they weren’t worth the price. I knew they’d only get more expensive. Happy to have it. Shoots great.
I wish it worked like with the M1 Garands to where you could go up to Camp Perry and pick one out yourself. $1250 for a service grade very well used, with mis-matched parts seems like a steep price without getting to lay eyes on it first.
I really want one, but I don't know if I want one that bad.
I really want one, but I don't know if I want one that bad.
Madcap_Magician
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It's a good price, though. It's like service-grade mail-order Garands. The odds are good that you'll get one that's better than you'd fear because of how conservative they grade, and even if you're disappointed, you'll never get a GI gun, even a mixmaster, for that price.
Nature Boy
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Everyone talking about “theirs” but only one guy posts a pic!?!?
This is what others have to look forward to…field grade RR frame and slide.
Crossing my fingers for matching Colt in round 3 … for my wife!
Homerboy
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I don’t get the whole “mixmaster” derision. Most of the military guns were mixmasters. That’s why they were so perfect for the military. Able to be fixed in the field with random parts with no expert fitting required. The gun that hung from the Tunnel Rat’s hip and cleared caves in Vietnam was a mixmaster.
The parts overhaul and reparkerized finish are part of the gun’s history. Mine was worked over in Anniston in July. 1976, a bicentennial gun. Than it was more than likely put away and inventoried every year or so because it is right as a drum. I’d take it over any new 1911 built today. The $1050 I spent for it is long forgotten, but the pride of ownership remains.
The parts overhaul and reparkerized finish are part of the gun’s history. Mine was worked over in Anniston in July. 1976, a bicentennial gun. Than it was more than likely put away and inventoried every year or so because it is right as a drum. I’d take it over any new 1911 built today. The $1050 I spent for it is long forgotten, but the pride of ownership remains.
jobu07
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The good news is you don’t need the cash today. Put in the paperwork on the last day. If they assign numbers as per round 2, you’ll have a year to save.
When the time comes and they call you, if you have the money, great. If not, no harm no foul.
I had a lot of interest and my wife and I justified buying mine in round 2. We couldn’t justify two at the time CMP called, and I couldn’t make a good enough argument
to buy 2, so she passed when they called. She will be signing up for round 3, and we plan on saving again and hope life doesn’t get in the way.
jmohme
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I did not know that. I think I might just do that.The good news is you don’t need the cash today. Put in the paperwork on the last day. If they assign numbers as per round 2, you’ll have a year to save.
When the time comes and they call you, if you have the money, great. If not, no harm no foul.
I had a lot of interest and my wife and I justified buying mine in round 2. We couldn’t justify two at the time CMP called, and I couldn’t make a good enough argument
I would like to have an original to go with my Garand.
Homerboy
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Yep. You can always say no when the time comes. But you’ll also never lose your money if you buy it and change your mind and sell it. The day I picked mine up there was another customer in the shop who offered me $1500 on the spot.
Depends on what it is, the condition and how much people know about them. I got exactly 100 bucks more than I paid and it was on consignment at my LGS. I'm a military History buff and collect such items. I was not happy with my heavily parked battleship gray mix master so I sold it. She was a shooter and that was it imo. I'm well aware of luck of the draw but in my eyes I lost on that one. I got numerous very nice Garands from the CMP so I guess my time for a bad one came around. I have seen some nice and not so nice 1911s so go for it and take your chances. They are getting more expensive and harder to come buy. Just keep your expectations real...
Nature Boy
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I’d love to have one but it’s pictures of the not so nice ones that keep me from throwing my name in the hat.
Madcap_Magician
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The good news is you don’t need the cash today. Put in the paperwork on the last day. If they assign numbers as per round 2, you’ll have a year to save.
When the time comes and they call you, if you have the money, great. If not, no harm no foul.
I had a lot of interest and my wife and I justified buying mine in round 2. We couldn’t justify two at the time CMP called, and I couldn’t make a good enough argument
The down side is that you never know when they're going to call your name. I suspect that's why they have such a high rate of people saying "no," it's one thing to have saved $1,250 for a gun, it's another to have $1,250 saved for a gun that you can successfully keep sitting there waiting for your call anywhere up to two years after you put the money away. But, the small investment (cost of GCA membership, $5 for the notary stamp, and $10 to ship it), was worth it to be on the list and have the option.
Doesn't seem like you lost out, you weren't happy with the one you got, but you immediately sold it and made a small profit, so it seems like a low-risk thing. I'm thinking that at the price, there's no way you'd not get your money back if you weren't satisfied, so I'm definitely participating.
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