Concealed carry identification?

[-eaux-]

my apologies, i guess i DID ask a question.
"may i see your license?"
sorry if that is asking too much, considering i just pulled you over for operating your vehicle in an unsafe manner.
unless you're up to some mischief other than speeding, i don't see how being upfront about it is a problem.
your legal possesion of a gun doesn't put you in the deputy dog club (or whatever) but your being upfront about it will certainly get you back on your way much more quickly.

there's a big difference between informing the officer who has pulled you over for a traffic violation and informing everyone in the walmart parking lot.

 

[Leanwolf]

X-RAP - "I think handcuffs and a badge hanging from the rear view mirror kinda does it for the ladies. cough cough"

I would like to hang a pair of handcuffs and a badge from my rear view mirror... but then where would I hang my fuzzy dice???

L.W.

 

[luigi]

sorry if that is asking too much, considering i just pulled you over for operating your vehicle in an unsafe manner.

What I meant was I'm not going to volunteer any informamtion I'm not required to provide.
I'm not going to answer ( Except to say "no") when you ask me if I know why you pulled me over.

I'm not going to answer when you ask if I know how fast I was going.

In the jurisdiction I live in you will get the ticket no matter what. The only exception I've ever seen was a cop that told me he guessed my speed at around 65 in a 55 zone. I shut up and refused to incriminate myself and got no ticket. Had I answered the two questions above he'd have wrote that ticket so fast the paper would burn.

 

[mrnkc130]

enamoured with the novelty of being armed

arent most of the people on this forum?

I would have to agree with most people the CHL sticker isnt the best idea, unlikely cops will be suprised you have a CHL, you aint the 1st person. Just keep your hands on the wheel when the officer walks up to your window and declare your weapon if thats the law in your state, if its not, well dont do anything.

and a CHL badge is laughable...those are the people that make gun owners look looney.

 

[rhinoh]

I've seen off duty firemen wearing badges on their belts....that puzzles the hell out of me. As other said seems like a good way to get shot first for no good reason.
I chuckle every time I see a car with any gun related stickers on it...wonder how many times they buy replacement windows as the thug hanging around the mall is clued in there may be a gun in the car.
I'm even hesitant to attend our local gun club meeting...since the restaurant sells alcohol we can't carry in. Talk about a lot full of likely targets for a thief....we really should post a couple of lookouts outside during the meetings. Or maybe we do

The element of surprise is priceless.

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

I made some vinyl stickers for my vehicles that simply say "CCW" and my expiration date. I placed them on the back windows of my vehicles so that they are visible if stopped and or approached by LEO.

IMO this advertises that you may have a gun in your vehicle and make it a target for a break-in. If your state does not require a "duty to inform" a LEO, there is no need for it. (When I lived in such a state - AZ - I did not volunteer the information, but would if directly asked, as required.) If it does, you can do so at the appropriate time and there is still no need for the stickers. The whole point of CCW is to remain concealed, i.e., discreet. Advertising that you have it defeats the purpose.

I did not worry about any one seeing them, as the only people that would know what it meant was LE and other CCW holders.

I wouldn't count on that, either. "CCW" did not originate in modern parlance since the widespread issuance of permits. It was slang for the crime
(back when it was a crime in most states) of carrying a concealed weapon. I think those of a criminal bent would have a passing familiarity with the term.

 

[ezypikns]

And you always will.

you will get the ticket no matter what.

If the officer pulls me over, I'm assuming there must be a reason (up to now there has been anyway).

I have found that politeness and courtesy have sometimes gotten me out of a traffic citation that I may have deserved.

With an attitude of barely concealed hostility and the minimum in cooperation, I believe you're right.

YOU will always get the ticket.

Kind if a self-fulfilling prophecy, right?

 

[WC145]

And you always will.

Quote:
you will get the ticket no matter what.

If the officer pulls me over, I'm assuming there must be a reason (up to now there has been anyway).

I have found that politeness and courtesy have sometimes gotten me out of a traffic citation that I may have deserved.

With an attitude of barely concealed hostility and the minimum in cooperation, I believe you're right.

YOU will always get the ticket.

Kind if a self-fulfilling prophecy, right?

+1
I like that post, ezypikns, there's a lot being said in those few lines.

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

I would like to expand a little on vehicle break-ins. The burglar may not get your gun, but he will certainly help himself to whatever else might be in it, not to mention the damage incurred to get into the vehicle. This includes your registration, which of course has your address on it. Now he knows where you live, conceivably making your home a target.

 

[KSCCHTrainer]

Concealed is CONCEALED. Why would you want to advertise the fact that you have a CCW? The bad guys certainly know what that means and most likely will shoot first and not bother to ask questions.

You are doing yourself and everyone you have around you an extreme dis-service by openly identifying yourself as a permit holder.

The first thing most instructors (myself included) tell their students is that concealed carry is a grave responsibility and that there is absolutely no shame in walking away from any serious encounter. The fact that you are carrying should never be advertised and your gun should be used ONLY when all other attempts to disengage from a bad situation have been exhausted.

Castle doctrine not withstanding, I reiterate, there is NO Shame in backing away from a fight.

 

[luigi]

I have found that politeness and courtesy have sometimes gotten me out of a traffic citation that I may have deserved.

Who said anything about being rude or hostile? If the cop asks me "Do you know why I pulled you over/" I can say "No I don't' nicely. He may only want to tell me my tag light's out. Why should I admit to speeding? Ditto W/ "Do you know how fast you were going" If I say 73 in a 65 zone I'm guilty. I just confessed to an 80$ (10$ a mile for every mile over the limit) fine.

Around here if (when) you get a ticket you take it to traffic court and they let you plea it down. You get a better deal if you don't incriminate yourself during the stop.

And you always will.

The last ticket I got was several years ago in a speedtrap out side the place I worked, One of our guys sat in the break room and counted 3 cops wrote 75 tickets in an hour.
I supposed my negative attitude made them do that

 

[gatorjames85]

^^^+1

Sometimes LE doesn't know if you really were speeding/running a light/etc. They're hoping you just fess to it, providing enough evidence.

 

[hso]

I have thought about getting one.

Don't

Those badges are an insult to the intelligence of every gun owner that isn't immature enough to carry one.